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Does the unit have psykic abilities: Yes

Does the item in question specifically state it affect psykers? Yes

I would say make the libby dread make a test.

@Dracos - kudos on the logic. I will accept immunity to the crucible if they are utterly stopped by a psychic hood.

Along with every imperial psyker, inquisition retinue(defined as psyker), eldar synapse creature, every grey knight. But of course no daemon because even though chaos was enhanced/created by psychic power use nothing they use is truly psychic.

DAaddict wrote:eldar synapse creature

Anyway. . .

So am I reading this correctly?
For all psychic purposes counts when caused by psychic powers or when reacting to psychic powers, but only when its helpful?

That does not seem right.

Sanguinary Dan wrote:Take the damned test. Pass it. If you fail, use Corbulo to re-roll. Then squash that damned arrogant little space pansy with a Blood Fist.

If I get to use my "psychic purposes Ld10" to test for my psy powers and the hood I should have to use that same stat when something effects all psykers. Wasn't there another argument recently about Walkers and Ld tests? This time at least the effect requiring the use of Ld stat fits the purpose of the Furioso Librarian having a stat that no other vehicle has.

Hahaha!

Dan, you're now my official hero for this thread.

So with the folks overwhelming vote that because it specifically targets psykers, I am guessing that the same amount will support that the CoM can be nullified by Wolf Tail Talisman and/or Runic Armor. After all it is an attack that specifically targets psykers, so it must be a psychic attack.

Well, CoM doesn't cause any wounds so runic armor wouldn't work against it. And it's definitely not an enemy psychic power so I don't think wolf tail talisman would do anything either.

I was writing without a codex at hand so will concede on the Runic Armor now that I am home, but the WTT argument persists since I can easily use the same rationale that an enemy attack specifically targeting psykers is a psychic power attacking the psyker.

Brother Ramses wrote: WTT argument persists since I can easily use the same rationale that an enemy attack specifically targeting psykers is a psychic power attacking the psyker.

Nah, it's just an attack that targets psykers. The Culexus assassin can always single out psykers, for example... shooting them while attached to a unit and being allowed to pass by other models while charging if it leads to B2B with the psyker. It also makes them test morale or fall back just for being near, or can cause a wound with no saves allowed in a sort of LD roll-off if engaged with a psyker. And it has grenades that specifically hurt only psykers. None of these effects are psychic powers.

Spetulhu wrote:

Brother Ramses wrote: WTT argument persists since I can easily use the same rationale that an enemy attack specifically targeting psykers is a psychic power attacking the psyker.

Nah, it's just an attack that targets psykers. The Culexus assassin can always single out psykers, for example... shooting them while attached to a unit and being allowed to pass by other models while charging if it leads to B2B with the psyker. It also makes them test morale or fall back just for being near, or can cause a wound with no saves allowed in a sort of LD roll-off if engaged with a psyker. And it has grenades that specifically hurt only psykers. None of these effects are psychic powers.

I didn't make the case that because CoM targets psykers specifically that it triggers a Furiuoso Dread's "for psychic purposes" leadership. You can't say that it is psychic for one reason and not psychic for another. So in that is an attack, that has be argued triggers a game mechanic set for psychic purposes, then it must be a psychic attack.

Unfortunately, Ramses, that's not how the WTT works.

"If a model with a Wolf Tail Talisman or the unit he is with is affected by an enemy psychic power, roll a D6."

While the CoM might very well be psychic in nature and constitute a psychic attack, it is not a psychic power. "Psychic power" is a game term with a defined meaning. If the WTT's rules said "psychic attack" rather than "psychic power," you would have an legitimate argument.

Yeah, I also don't see how something that effects psykers necessarily has to be a psychic power. Would a WTT protect you from a Perils of the Warp effect? It only applies to psykers and does most assuredly count as an attack since it causes wounds. It could be covered to be honest, but my Codex:SW is "visiting" a friend so I haven't got it handy.