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reds8n wrote: Big thanks to the producers for the cinema showing this coming Sunday, I'm looking forwards to it immensely.

*Sob* I'm working this weekend. Not that I'd have won any tickets, with my luck.

Unfortunately I bare bad news.

The Ultramarines home page is listing an item under Latest News it reads;

"26 Nov 2010 - DELAY TO SHIP DATE "

When clicked on the pages states Access Denied and shows no further detail.

For Feths Sake! So close!

gak.

Strange, nothing seems to be there now...???

Could be a silly prank, or the post has been pulled and will be put up later when they fire off a newsletter to go with it.

It was definitely there. I even did a screen print but have endevoured to mislay it?

I figure theat they were preparing for a weather related delay [heavy snow across allot of the UK], the realised that it dosn't matter until monday morning any way.

Thanks for the review I cant wait to see this movie.

Honestly I think if Hollywood did make the movie, I wouldn't want it to be based soley around the space marines, but instead maybe a squad in the imperial guard and have it showing the events that go on around them (constant deaths of allies, mental anguish, neverending stress and worry if you're going to live the next day etc.). They would need to make it dirty, gritty, and almost make you feel empty on the inside when you leave it. Keep any love stories or any of that garbage out of it.


Anyway that's me blathering off topic, back on topic! I'm happy to hear it isn't a disappointment. I understand the quality of the animation is at the peak of what we have right now, but I'm more interested in the story with mediocre animation which it sounds like this film will be perfect then

Why can't there be love stories? The little side love story in helsreach was great. If done well they can add a lot.

Da Boss wrote:Is CGI cheaper than traditional animation? I assume so, but a 40K movie done in the style of the Red Hood animated movie would be awesome. CGI is only good if done well.

I have to agree with this. I am waiting for the spring, I don't need all the fluff, especially if I don't like the film I wont feel it such a waste of money. But traditional 2d animation is still amazing if done well, the same can be said that if it is not done well it can be just aweful to look at, and I think the same with CGI animation, if it looks terrible it detracts from the film.

However you mentioned the Red Hood, what straight Batman Animation (Not justice league or batman/superman stuff like that) has not been of outstanding quality? I think the animated Batman franchise since it began in the late 80's early 90's with Batman the Animated series set the bar pretty high and maintains it today.

So that example is the high water mark, then you look at say Spider-Man Unlimited and it's just aweful to look at, it had a respectable franchise character from a decent animated show and then the animation just dropped off. Then there is just tons of stuff inbetween, the Simpson is near the top of the list and then you have South Park near the middle.

CGI works in the same kind of pattern, stuff in the middle people will still enjoy but it tends to be a nitch, and stiff at the bottom, no one enjoys. I think from what I've seen this film is probably closer to the middle but I can't say for sure since all I've seen is an 2 minute trailer on my HD monitor. And again if the story is enjoyable and well done it will move it up, that why I mentioned south park in the middle, thats all about the writing the social commentary the animation is of secondary concern. This is clearly leaning the other way, the action is the primary concern and if it looks good then no one will mind.

After all plenty of people still like Babylon 5 and it's CGI is not by any means up to par with current TV CGI.

Simonbarsinistr wrote:Why can't there be love stories? The little side love story in helsreach was great. If done well they can add a lot.

More crushed souls, yes.

Tomorow, tomorrow, I love ya, tomorrow...

Today! Can't wait to see it...

So I went along to the cinema showing in London on Sunday. Happy to be going -- a day out is a day out after all and, realistically, I would only have spent most of the day in bed hiding from the weather anyway. Quick and relatively hasslefree train journey got me to London, then a slight case of really rather embarrassing mistaken identity : in the unlikely event that the bloke who ( I thought) grinned at me and said "Well hello gorgeous, good to see you at last", which led to me laughing. calling him "sexy" and shaking his hand reads this : I can but apologise, once again both to you and your girlfriend who was stood behind me. What a great story that will make to tell your children one day.


Ah, the perils of meeting online/forum friends in the flesh for the first time.

Anyway, after a few slight diversions, I found my way to the cinema, and was greeted by a long line of..well.... wargamers . And a strangely reassuring sight it was too. It was kind of like a support group were having an outing.

Met and chatted with a few people, very pleased to meet some of them indeed, a bit annoyed I didn't get to speak to some as much as I would have liked.Them's the breaks I guess.

We got in, swiftly,and were given out ticket for a free drink from the bar afterwards too :cool: , and took our seats.A bit of a preamble from some of those involved, then the lights went down and off we went. Well, alright, off we sat.

So then : the film.

Most people here will have seen the trailers. They don't really do the film justice IMO. The animation was a lot sharper and better than the trailer quality had led me to believe. Yeah, sure, it's wasn't up to bighollywoodreleaseofthemonth or the myriad of of "movie" scenes in various computer games. But it never claimed to be, and the style they've used suits both the story they're telling and the setting itself. Things like the spaceship interiors and the incredibly faithful renditions of 40K buildings are spot on. There's a nice attention to detail -- things like the stained glass window, the wearing and rust on things and so on which really show the care and love that have gone into the project.

The story is relatively straight forward and logical enough. There's a bit more meat on this bone than some of the reviews so far have let on -- the community has been surprisingly good in this regards which is a nice change. And everything that happens in it "feels" right, generally. Perhaps the "walk" goes on a little longer than some would like, but that time is used quite effectively to show some of the characters' natures a bit more and to build up the tension.

This aspect is helped tremendously by the first class audio and sound effects. They don't put a foot wrong here IMO -- if the soundtrack is ever made available then put me down for one for sure. The effort they went to here -- hiring BBC choirs and the ! -- like really pays off. Chainswords sound like I'd thought and the bolt guns work as well, although for me bolter weapons will always be as Ian Watson wrote. And the Land Speeder was very well done.

The story has several "punch the air" moments and the few jokes are well placed and timed and raised chuckles from the audience, without being too cheesy either. And let's be honest, marines are hardly going to be "LOL" are they eh ?

There are a few quibbles : I was a little confused at one point with what exactly had happened to one marine.... and I suspect there might be some discussion about the what I shall refer to as "The Crozius issue", but they're all quite minor and might well be cleared up in a second viewing.

Aside from that it's really nitpicky stuff that is easily explained with "well they might..." although I really have my doubts that the Imperial Fists would have built that bridge out of wood. Not least due to the import costs.

Oh, and nothing to do with the film, but the cinema itself could have done with a tad more heating perhaps.

Overall though I was more impressed ( and relieved) than I'd hoped to be. I've read some comments pretty much saying that you should buy this as it's their first effort and each one will ( or should) get better as they go along. And, whilst that line of argument is ..err... logical ?... the main reason you should buy this is because it is a good film that really is written for genuine 40K fans. The fact that if this is a success then we'll get follow ups is, really, just a bonus.

Massive thanks to Codex pictures for the day itself, which was a blast. It was great to talk to those involved and they were amazingly open with regards to what they'd have liked to have done and to do in the future. Although they wouldn't be drawn too far with regards to what any possible sequel would be about, but that's quite understandable... if annoying.

And extra thanks to Deborah who really went above and beyond both on the day and prior to it making sure things went as smoothly as they did. I hope you actually got to drink that red wine.

Anyway, don't just sit here pondering, get over to their site and buy it.

reds8n wrote:So I went along to the cinema showing in London on Sunday. Happy to be going -- a day out is a day out after all and, realistically, I would only have spent most of the day in bed hiding from the weather anyway. Quick and relatively hasslefree train journey got me to London, then a slight case of really rather embarrassing mistaken identity : in the unlikely event that the bloke who ( I thought) grinned at me and said "Well hello gorgeous, good to see you at last", which led to me laughing. calling him "sexy" and shaking his hand reads this : I can but apologise, once again both to you and your girlfriend who was stood behind me. What a great story that will make to tell your children one day.


Ah, the perils of meeting online/forum friends in the flesh for the first time.

Anyway, after a few slight diversions, I found my way to the cinema, and was greeted by a long line of..well.... wargamers . And a strangely reassuring sight it was too. It was kind of like a support group were having an outing.

Met and chatted with a few people, very pleased to meet some of them indeed, a bit annoyed I didn't get to speak to some as much as I would have liked.Them's the breaks I guess.

We got in, swiftly,and were given out ticket for a free drink from the bar afterwards too :cool: , and took our seats.A bit of a preamble from some of those involved, then the lights went down and off we went. Well, alright, off we sat.

So then : the film.

Most people here will have seen the trailers. They don't really do the film justice IMO. The animation was a lot sharper and better than the trailer quality had led me to believe. Yeah, sure, it's wasn't up to bighollywoodreleaseofthemonth or the myriad of of "movie" scenes in various computer games. But it never claimed to be, and the style they've used suits both the story they're telling and the setting itself. Things like the spaceship interiors and the incredibly faithful renditions of 40K buildings are spot on. There's a nice attention to detail -- things like the stained glass window, the wearing and rust on things and so on which really show the care and love that have gone into the project.

The story is relatively straight forward and logical enough. There's a bit more meat on this bone than some of the reviews so far have let on -- the community has been surprisingly good in this regards which is a nice change. And everything that happens in it "feels" right, generally. Perhaps the "walk" goes on a little longer than some would like, but that time is used quite effectively to show some of the characters' natures a bit more and to build up the tension.

This aspect is helped tremendously by the first class audio and sound effects. They don't put a foot wrong here IMO -- if the soundtrack is ever made available then put me down for one for sure. The effort they went to here -- hiring BBC choirs and the ! -- like really pays off. Chainswords sound like I'd thought and the bolt guns work as well, although for me bolter weapons will always be as Ian Watson wrote. And the Land Speeder was very well done.

The story has several "punch the air" moments and the few jokes are well placed and timed and raised chuckles from the audience, without being too cheesy either. And let's be honest, marines are hardly going to be "LOL" are they eh ?

There are a few quibbles : I was a little confused at one point with what exactly had happened to one marine.... and I suspect there might be some discussion about the what I shall refer to as "The Crozius issue", but they're all quite minor and might well be cleared up in a second viewing.

Aside from that it's really nitpicky stuff that is easily explained with "well they might..." although I really have my doubts that the Imperial Fists would have built that bridge out of wood. Not least due to the import costs.

Oh, and nothing to do with the film, but the cinema itself could have done with a tad more heating perhaps.

Overall though I was more impressed ( and relieved) than I'd hoped to be. I've read some comments pretty much saying that you should buy this as it's their first effort and each one will ( or should) get better as they go along. And, whilst that line of argument is ..err... logical ?... the main reason you should buy this is because it is a good film that really is written for genuine 40K fans. The fact that if this is a success then we'll get follow ups is, really, just a bonus.

Massive thanks to Codex pictures for the day itself, which was a blast. It was great to talk to those involved and they were amazingly open with regards to what they'd have liked to have done and to do in the future. Although they wouldn't be drawn too far with regards to what any possible sequel would be about, but that's quite understandable... if annoying.

And extra thanks to Deborah who really went above and beyond both on the day and prior to it making sure things went as smoothly as they did. I hope you actually got to drink that red wine.

Anyway, don't just sit here pondering, get over to their site and buy it.

Is...is your avatar smoking a candy cane?

And thanks for the 2 cents as well Mr. Satan.

WarOne wrote:
Is...is your avatar smoking a candy cane?

For a very short while yes, rest assured Grinchiness will resume shortly. Humbug indeed.

reds8n wrote:

WarOne wrote:
Is...is your avatar smoking a candy cane?

For a very short while yes, rest assured Grinchiness will resume shortly. Humbug indeed.

I thought Satan only sucked on hard candies coating the sweet souls of murderers and arsonists?

And, of course, it didn't come today.

CURSE YOU, GODS OF THE WARP/POST OFFICE!

Bad news on the production front. Got this email today regarding my order:

Unfortunately, due to a production issue outside of our control, we are not able to start shipping your order for the ULTRAMARINES DVD Collector's Set today, November 29th as planned. We are working around the clock with our third party suppliers to resolve the issue as soon as possible and hope to be able to give you details of a new ship date tomorrow.

We at Codex Pictures know you will be very disappointed not to receive your DVD as soon as anticipated and are equally distressed ourselves that this has happened.

Please accept our sincere apologies and rest assured we are doing everything we can to resolve the issue and get your order to you quickly.


Codex Pictures

(EDIT) My 100th post and it has to be soul crushing bad news.
I'm such a tool.

Oof. I wonder what part of production? The box? The cover?
(Sorry, post office! I'll be taking that curse back now).

I got hold of an "emergency off site back up copy" last week and think it's not too bad. Have to agree about the age thing, that was really stupid and wasn't too impressed with the Apothecary character. I'm also not a great lover of Space Marines bickering in a petty way. Did also wonder at the end when they were landing on the Cruiser why there were only a handful of Space Marines on it, another weak story point.

I'd give it a B and when the normal price version comes out I will buy a copy.

You people who think this has a "good" story line need to watch more movies.


You people that think this movie was good spend way too much time hiding from daylight in your mom's basement playing tabletop. This movie was TERRIBLE. TERRIBLE. Its so god damn bad, I don't even know where to start. You've done hit the crack pipe one to many times if you think there is ANYTHING positive to say about this film.

First off, jesus christ, did anyone (anyone at all) research anything before making this film? I mean, could you maybe have had someone over at codex pictures actually do a little research about military formations, how squads move, how the 40k universe works, etc? How about the dumb ass marines walking around corners and through doorways with their bolters mag clamped to their legs! Really? I mean really? A space marine? Someone who's fed tactical moves their whole life.....

Then, the story sucked. Dan should stick to writing books, because I'm pretty sure you could read the 12 year old special Olympics sci-fi short story challenge and find better story lines. I mean seriously, I thought Dan would be your only saving grace, but christ this story line sucks. They go to a planet, kill a couple bad guys, a demon tries to come back to their homeworld? Christ, seriously, that's it?

The graphics consistently looked about as sexy as the fat girl that lives at the end of the block. I mean, I play video games on my blackberry that looks better than the crap you've cooked up.

Sound was terrible, completely one dimensional. Bolter fire sounds like someone was shooting a .22 a half-mile away. Really, was your sound guy deaf? We are all just curious.

You guys had a chance to really move warhammer to mainstream with this and you've epically, I mean epically, failed. And you the 40k fanboys need to put the god damn pipe down and be sure not to spout this off to family and friends already not familiar with the 40k universe. This will TURN PEOPLE AWAY, who are not already part of the fan base. And they'll probably call you a nerd to boot (which you deserve if you found this movie anything above a D-).

Don't waste your money on this movie! If you really want to see it, find some who idiot who did waste their money and watch theirs. I'd ask for my money back, but this movie is so damn bad that the thought of dealing with it anymore makes me throw up in my mouth.

-Sincerely Pissed off 40k fan.

You joined just to say that?

Worstmovieever wrote:You people who think this has a "good" story line need to watch more movies.


You people that think this movie was good spend way too much time hiding from daylight in your mom's basement playing tabletop. This movie was TERRIBLE. TERRIBLE. Its so god damn bad, I don't even know where to start. You've done hit the crack pipe one to many times if you think there is ANYTHING positive to say about this film.

First off, jesus christ, did anyone (anyone at all) research anything before making this film? I mean, could you maybe have had someone over at codex pictures actually do a little research about military formations, how squads move, how the 40k universe works, etc? How about the dumb ass marines walking around corners and through doorways with their bolters mag clamped to their legs! Really? I mean really? A space marine? Someone who's fed tactical moves their whole life.....

Then, the story sucked. Dan should stick to writing books, because I'm pretty sure you could read the 12 year old special Olympics sci-fi short story challenge and find better story lines. I mean seriously, I thought Dan would be your only saving grace, but christ this story line sucks. They go to a planet, kill a couple bad guys, a demon tries to come back to their homeworld? Christ, seriously, that's it?

The graphics consistently looked about as sexy as the fat girl that lives at the end of the block. I mean, I play video games on my blackberry that looks better than the crap you've cooked up.

Sound was terrible, completely one dimensional. Bolter fire sounds like someone was shooting a .22 a half-mile away. Really, was your sound guy deaf? We are all just curious.

You guys had a chance to really move warhammer to mainstream with this and you've epically, I mean epically, failed. And you the 40k fanboys need to put the god damn pipe down and be sure not to spout this off to family and friends already not familiar with the 40k universe. This will TURN PEOPLE AWAY, who are not already part of the fan base. And they'll probably call you a nerd to boot (which you deserve if you found this movie anything above a D-).

Don't waste your money on this movie! If you really want to see it, find some who idiot who did waste their money and watch theirs. I'd ask for my money back, but this movie is so damn bad that the thought of dealing with it anymore makes me throw up in my mouth.

-Sincerely Pissed off 40k fan.

Obvious Troll is obvious

Well I think he has something of a point if you filter out the bile and vitriol.

And by that I mean, this was an excellent opportunity for 40K to be introduced to a more mainstream and wider audience, but sadly I think the ball has been dropped here. My wife likes sci-fi yet fell asleep watching the first half hour. Hell, I'm a 40k fan and I found the movie tough going!

Bottom line is, yes we know it was made to a low budget but that still doesn't detract from the weak storyline.

filbert wrote:Well I think he has something of a point if you filter out the bile and vitriol.

And by that I mean, this was an excellent opportunity for 40K to be introduced to a more mainstream and wider audience, but sadly I think the ball has been dropped here. My wife likes sci-fi yet fell asleep watching the first half hour. Hell, I'm a 40k fan and I found the movie tough going!

Bottom line is, yes we know it was made to a low budget but that still doesn't detract from the weak storyline.

+1.

Still, I think his post would have been a bit better received had he refrained from joining only to call people who liked the movie crack-smoking basement dwellers. LOL

There is that, isn't there.

I'd suggest taking a deep breath before posting again, actually.

I can remember reading (can't remember where i read it, i think another guys review) that apparently Hollywood constantly ask GW to make a 40k movie, but they decline because hollywood would go off fluff wise and romanticise the whole thing.

well, if you want to mainstream 40k, you will have to introduce it at first to the wider public, and if you have to romanticise it to get there, so be it.

perhaps a storyline to do with a guardsmen on some godforsaken rock somewhere fighting, lots of blood and gore with great CGI, and meets some female hivedweller etc etc the story goes on.


that, or just make a damn movie about a book already written, i'd die to see a Guant's Ghosts movie or something. just a movie which is primarily actors and props and real life locations, and then a small amount of CGI. so basically, no superhuman or aliens UNTIL there is enough support to make a blockbusting CGI filled supermovie with 9 feet tall armoured warriors ripping the heads off fat green aliens with axes.

dark6spectre wrote:

that, or just make a damn movie about a book already written, i'd die to see a Guant's Ghosts movie or something. just a movie which is primarily actors and probs and real life locations, and then a small amount of CGI. so basically, no superhuman or aliens UNTIL there is enough support to make a blockbusting CGI filled supermovie with 9 feet tall armoured warriors ripping the heads off fat green aliens with axes.

We've got that now, so really, no reason not to!

Just focus it on IG and only have the Marines in for a while, to showcase how bada$$ they really are. You know, Movie Marines!

yeah, like in the background see like 5 men in blue killing an army of enemies, and the camera pans to the IGs who are just standing there gawping...