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your running from certain death and still think about fapping?

well i guess it goes in terms with run to fap another day then...

vik

Well yes... is that obvious. If the world's going to hell and doing anything other than holding up in a sealed room is risking your life, I for one am gonna enjoy every moment I have.

That being said, large chunks of the net will be down, so on the almost unthinkable chance that our knowledge of "Aim for the head!!!" doesn't win over some of the fairer sex (or the more plausible case of peoples skills not being up to par to keep other alive as well), I propose we establish meeting points to exchange and help preserve "pre-Zday data".

That sounds completely reasonable right?

so in essence you say we should download "art" for the dire days to co/ume?
well sounds reasonable to me...are we getting a tad off topic?

*hrmp*

now to something completly different. if that Z-day may arrive i hope we have copleted the development of fully functioning chainswords...

vik

Viktor von Domm wrote:at frazzled:

Electronic head gear filters loud decibel noises but has microphones installed so normal sounds are transferred through.

Besides, ear protection isn't that good, you can still hear plenty. I've had phone conversations at the range with ear protection on.

"WHATTT!?!? YOU WANT ME TO PICK UP MILK ON THE WAY HOME?!?!"

may i ask how much that would cost me? sound like a very useful item.

as for the other mentiones of uses of fire and explosives heck even grenades, i wouldn´t use them. personaly i would always use shotguns. also you have a fine piece of metal and wood in your hand as a last resort. also i would mostly use buckshots as with zombies i want to be sure they´re put down for good. nothing says dead zomby like a wide spread of limbs all over the area. and the possability to hit multiple targets is nothing to be sneezed at in times of stress...

vik

Not much. I think I paid $70 for SWMBO's
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/remington-r-2000-electronic-ear-muffs.aspx?a=571330


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Viktor von Domm wrote:does a nagant have that much recoil? really?

vik

Its an old joke about recoil.

M16 shooters: Whats recoil?
AK 47 shooters: The AK is a fine rifle who's recoil lets you know you've just shot a man's gun.
Nagant shooters: Recoil is no big deal. You just shoot the second shot from your left shoulder to snap the right should back into place.

The most vivid memory i have regarding recoil is firing my friend's dad's .50 cal revolver.

That thing is a fething handheld cannon.

Yea the local gun range/shop has a couple 500 magnums on display. Everytime I see them I cant help but laugh. One of them is almost the size of my leg. Ive never shot one, and honestly.....Id be a bit scared to

ChaosGalvatron wrote:Funny. Would like to hear about those people in the army. I bet firing real weapons will come as a real shock to them. Unless guns are controlled by mice+keyboard now.

http://www.cracked.com/article/136_5-reasons-you-secretly-want-zombie-apocalypse/

Some of them are!

KingCracker wrote:Yea the local gun range/shop has a couple 500 magnums on display. Everytime I see them I cant help but laugh. One of them is almost the size of my leg. Ive never shot one, and honestly.....Id be a bit scared to

They are the epitome of ridiculousness.

And the muzzle flash is GINORMOUS. Like a mammoth fireball of super doom.

We all need to do some serious soul searching and answer the following honestly.

KingCracker wrote:

Ghiest1 wrote:As for the recoil, if you train with it you get used to it, and they make padded shoulder guards for those people who can not. I should note flaming weapons sound good until you have a flaming set of zombies chasing you, setting every thing in thier path on fire.

This. Its a proven fact, that zombies +fire = flaming zombies. Remeber they wont react to fire like humans. Catch me on fire and Im flailing and screaming and burning to death. A zombie with just keep lumbering towards you until its completely burned up.

The problem with that is that a flamethrowers flames are hot enough to physically melt flesh and muscle completely in less than a minute if not put out by something. In fact, usually in a matter of seconds. This is against a healthy human mind you, you know, one who hasn't already lost half their flesh and muscle because, you know, they are still alive.

In the book World War Z, the whole number of zombies vs number of bullets thing is addressed pretty well. Basically these shovels that are sharpened on the edges are given to all the soldiers because its more cost effective than bullets when you are dealing with 3.5-4 billion zombies.

It sound slike you're talking about an E-tool (entrenchment tool). Basically a collapsible shovel, with one side having a serrated edge.

Maybe on the east coast, out here all the taxi drivers are Sikh and speak Hindi.

same story on the east coast.

I did a few sums about that.

Assume the sniper rifle is shot at a target 250 metres away and its bullet velocity at 200 metres is 700 metres per second.

Assume the target is a man jogging or running at 16 kmh.

The bullet will take 0.35 seconds to reach the target.

During this interval, the target will have moved 1.5 metres, so the sniper needs to aim that far ahead as well as accounting for the ballistic arc.

Not easy.

However in video games there is no flight time or bullet drop.

In Battlefield Bad Company 2 and Medal of Honor (2010) there most certainly is flight time and bullet drop. Especially in the MoH campaign, where the game simulates taking shots that have a 3-4 second flight time

In most video games there isn't.


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It is improving as the processing power of the consoles increases.

chaos0xomega wrote:

KingCracker wrote:

Ghiest1 wrote:As for the recoil, if you train with it you get used to it, and they make padded shoulder guards for those people who can not. I should note flaming weapons sound good until you have a flaming set of zombies chasing you, setting every thing in thier path on fire.

This. Its a proven fact, that zombies +fire = flaming zombies. Remeber they wont react to fire like humans. Catch me on fire and Im flailing and screaming and burning to death. A zombie with just keep lumbering towards you until its completely burned up.

The problem with that is that a flamethrowers flames are hot enough to physically melt flesh and muscle completely in less than a minute if not put out by something. In fact, usually in a matter of seconds. This is against a healthy human mind you, you know, one who hasn't already lost half their flesh and muscle because, you know, they are still alive.

Go ahead and melt a zombie in less then a minute. Hell puff them so bad it takes less then 10 secs to melt......thats still around 10secs of a fire zombie trying to NOM NOM your brains and insides. The flame thrower argument is pretty moot. 10-60 seconds to have one die? Or just a loud bang, and its dead, you know, as in dead dead? Because they are dead?

at frazzeld:

looked into the link and i have to post that for all married ones to read:

They're rated 23 decibel noise reduction. Yes, you can still hear normal conversation. Just takes away those impulse blasts around guns, loud machinery, even tones down excessive loud yelling from your Mother-in-Law

now thats a very useful thing to add to my wish list...kind of essential in in-laws relationships...

and for the burning zombies thing i think only someone with a serious deathwish wants to use that on a walking corpse...seriously the point in shooting flames to living beings is to make them feel harm the hard way...there is no point in giving walking objects that feel no pain at all great pain. waht a zomby stops is impact and rendering cuts...so either cut limb from limb or shoot the frigging head of and if the caliber aloows a lot of its upper front to...

vik

All this talk of guns...

Don't zombies follow sensory input relentlessly? Why would you want something loud? You'll kill the 5-10 that are there, sure. And bring every other one within earshot.

well i wouldn´t want to really go into close combat with these fellas...so guns are the only option i can think of...and a byproduct is aways sound...of course running isn´t that loud...
but then again...

vik

No way is a sniper rifle a good choice for a weapon in a zombie apocalypse scenario. You need to take out large swarms of zombies quickly, not take 10 seconds lining up a shot on a zombie so far away it will take him an hour to stumble over to you.

The best item for zombies isn't a weapon at all. The best item is a good full-body suit of chainmail. It may be heavy, but nothing is going to bite its way through. Then you can take as much time killing them as you want.

Also, here is my tip for zombies. They don't have the ability to regenerate damaged tissue. Just hole up somewhere with a slingshot and start taking dudes out. Make sure you have water, and laugh as zombies tear muscles pounding at your fortress door. Sip that water. Laughing at zombies whose arms are too messed up to lift anymore is gonna be awesome, and you may laugh yourself hoarse.


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Grakmar: a shark suit is less encumbering, and it an elemental barrier as well. Survival!

KingCracker wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

KingCracker wrote:

Ghiest1 wrote:As for the recoil, if you train with it you get used to it, and they make padded shoulder guards for those people who can not. I should note flaming weapons sound good until you have a flaming set of zombies chasing you, setting every thing in thier path on fire.

This. Its a proven fact, that zombies +fire = flaming zombies. Remeber they wont react to fire like humans. Catch me on fire and Im flailing and screaming and burning to death. A zombie with just keep lumbering towards you until its completely burned up.

The problem with that is that a flamethrowers flames are hot enough to physically melt flesh and muscle completely in less than a minute if not put out by something. In fact, usually in a matter of seconds. This is against a healthy human mind you, you know, one who hasn't already lost half their flesh and muscle because, you know, they are still alive.

Go ahead and melt a zombie in less then a minute. Hell puff them so bad it takes less then 10 secs to melt......thats still around 10secs of a fire zombie trying to NOM NOM your brains and insides. The flame thrower argument is pretty moot. 10-60 seconds to have one die? Or just a loud bang, and its dead, you know, as in dead dead? Because they are dead?

I will, the zombie is rendered immobile after only a few seconds and left to roast in its own skin until its a pile of ash.

Doomthumbs wrote:
Grakmar: a shark suit is less encumbering, and it an elemental barrier as well. Survival!

Yeah, anything that's good enough to stop a bite works perfectly. Other than that, go for comfort and weight reduction.

And, don't forget to factor in that a zombie's muscles are decaying, and without functioning organs, it's muscles would barely have enough strength to do anything. I'm not even convinced a zombie bite could break skin.

Doomthumbs wrote:Also, here is my tip for zombies. They don't have the ability to regenerate damaged tissue. Just hole up somewhere with a slingshot and start taking dudes out. Make sure you have water, and laugh as zombies tear muscles pounding at your fortress door. Sip that water. Laughing at zombies whose arms are too messed up to lift anymore is gonna be awesome, and you may laugh yourself hoarse.


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Grakmar: a shark suit is less encumbering, and it an elemental barrier as well. Survival!

Cool. I'd substitute the aforementioned rifle though. Sure it attracts everything within earshot. Thats the point. I'm lazy and don't want to half to get up to put them in my scope!

Doomthumbs wrote:Also, here is my tip for zombies. They don't have the ability to regenerate damaged tissue. Just hole up somewhere with a slingshot and start taking dudes out. Make sure you have water, and laugh as zombies tear muscles pounding at your fortress door. Sip that water. Laughing at zombies whose arms are too messed up to lift anymore is gonna be awesome, and you may laugh yourself hoarse.


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Grakmar: a shark suit is less encumbering, and it an elemental barrier as well. Survival!

Pretty much this, climb up somewhere high, then lock the door/ kick away the ladder. (With a stockpile). Rely on wolves to eat all the zombies. No idea what to do about the wolves though.

And, don't forget to factor in that a zombie's muscles are decaying, and without functioning organs, it's muscles would barely have enough strength to do anything. I'm not even convinced a zombie bite could break skin.

i think in terms of beliving that something could actualy animate a dead person, either virus or magic... will give it the needed strenght to be a dire oponent... also dont forget ants! ants you ask? yeah small and not so hard all in all but since they attack en masse, they are a force to respect... and i wouldn´t want to hide. i think when your in a violent situation hiding will help you only so long. i think this would be so dreadful that the only working option would be fighting. as seen in so many movies lurkes get eaten eventualy...

vik

KingCracker wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:

KingCracker wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:Especially when talking about shooting like a Sniper. I would put any amount of money that I have to my name that I don't care how good someone is at CoD they aren't going to be able to snipe a moving target from 500 meters away.

Thank you
Id put mine on that line along with you. Hell even 250 yards would be pushing on the lucky shot line

I did a few sums about that.

Assume the sniper rifle is shot at a target 250 metres away and its bullet velocity at 200 metres is 700 metres per second.

Assume the target is a man jogging or running at 16 kmh.

The bullet will take 0.35 seconds to reach the target.

During this interval, the target will have moved 1.5 metres, so the sniper needs to aim that far ahead as well as accounting for the ballistic arc.

Not easy.

However in video games there is no flight time or bullet drop.

I want you in my group when the zombies come KK.

+1


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Grakmar wrote:

Doomthumbs wrote:
Grakmar: a shark suit is less encumbering, and it an elemental barrier as well. Survival!

Yeah, anything that's good enough to stop a bite works perfectly. Other than that, go for comfort and weight reduction.

And, don't forget to factor in that a zombie's muscles are decaying, and without functioning organs, it's muscles would barely have enough strength to do anything. I'm not even convinced a zombie bite could break skin.

Zombie movies clearly prove you wrong!

havent seen resident evil 4 haven´t you?


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going high ground isnt a very good option, either you go into space or you start to fight like a living human or die like a sissy...

rubiksnoob wrote:The most vivid memory i have regarding recoil is firing my friend's dad's .50 cal revolver.

That thing is a fething handheld cannon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rtw91crys8&feature=related

Grakmar wrote:

Doomthumbs wrote:
Grakmar: a shark suit is less encumbering, and it an elemental barrier as well. Survival!

Yeah, anything that's good enough to stop a bite works perfectly. Other than that, go for comfort and weight reduction.

And, don't forget to factor in that a zombie's muscles are decaying, and without functioning organs, it's muscles would barely have enough strength to do anything. I'm not even convinced a zombie bite could break skin.

That may be true in the later stages but initially they'll be stronger then us simply because they wouldn't have the mental blocks preventing over use of their muscles.

Chainsaw for melee... and few fuel cans...

Pyro-Druid wrote:

Grakmar wrote:

Doomthumbs wrote:
Grakmar: a shark suit is less encumbering, and it an elemental barrier as well. Survival!

Yeah, anything that's good enough to stop a bite works perfectly. Other than that, go for comfort and weight reduction.

And, don't forget to factor in that a zombie's muscles are decaying, and without functioning organs, it's muscles would barely have enough strength to do anything. I'm not even convinced a zombie bite could break skin.

That may be true in the later stages but initially they'll be stronger then us simply because they wouldn't have the mental blocks preventing over use of their muscles.

what mental blocks?

Black Corsair wrote:Chainsaw for melee... and few fuel cans...

Chainsaw depends on how the becoming a zombie works. If it's a disease carried in the bloodstream, a chainsaw is a very bad idea. Just imagine the amount of splatter a chainsaw would create and you'll get the idea.

Grakmar wrote:

Black Corsair wrote:Chainsaw for melee... and few fuel cans...

Chainsaw depends on how the becoming a zombie works. If it's a disease carried in the bloodstream, a chainsaw is a very bad idea. Just imagine the amount of splatter a chainsaw would create and you'll get the idea.

mmmph!! i didn't thought about that