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So...I guess that means that 40k is pretty screwed for major releases (not counting Grey Knights) this year right?

Doubt it. 40k and Fantasy both usually see 3 armybooks/codecies per year, plus in the summer one of the two usually sees a major release, like an expansion, new edition, etc. I'm a bit surprised, because Fantasy had 8th ed. last year, but I suppose it isn't unheard of for back-to-back summer releases.

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:John's got to be banned, a Dogs of War reference and he's not in the thread within 24hrs.

GW could revamp Dogs of War as "Warhammer Mercenaries", and it would be the right thing to do, but we know that ain't gonna happen any more than we'll get Chaos Dwarves or Squats back...

If it's not DoW, I couldn't care less at this point. I'm playing hardly any Fantasy, and not even bothering to follow the game any more.

If I want a medieval battles game, I'll play BattleLore, which is both more-realistic and smoother-playing than Fantasy, at a small fraction of the price.

chaos0xomega wrote:Doubt it. 40k and Fantasy both usually see 3 armybooks/codecies per year, plus in the summer one of the two usually sees a major release, like an expansion, new edition, etc. I'm a bit surprised, because Fantasy had 8th ed. last year, but I suppose it isn't unheard of for back-to-back summer releases.

2010. 1 Fantasy Armybook. 2 40K Codexes.

Warhammer monsters sounds good if it is true it could be great!!


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JohnHwangDD said: GW could revamp Dogs of War as "Warhammer Mercenaries", and it would be the right thing to do, but we know that ain't gonna happen any more than we'll get Chaos Dwarves or Squats back...

forge world have some choas dwarves lined up so you never know

UltraPrime wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:Doubt it. 40k and Fantasy both usually see 3 armybooks/codecies per year, plus in the summer one of the two usually sees a major release, like an expansion, new edition, etc. I'm a bit surprised, because Fantasy had 8th ed. last year, but I suppose it isn't unheard of for back-to-back summer releases.

2010. 1 Fantasy Armybook. 2 40K Codexes.

Will be probably 2 Codices (Grey Knights + X) and 2 army books (ORcs&Goblins plus TK) like most years. Been a long while with 3 each.

BTW my wishlisting would be terrain for all races, e.g. basic camp stuff as seen in Warhammer Online. Easy to do, already designed and enhancing gaming experience enormously.

And people wonder why sales are down...

Really, talk about how to NOT capitalize on the launch of a new edition of WFB!

Alpharius wrote:And people wonder why sales are down...

Really, talk about how to NOT capitalize on the launch of a new edition of WFB!

Precisely. We should have had IOB, the 8th ed book, and a new army book within 3 months, then another couple books at a good clip. Alas, it is not to be so.

If it were army specific terrain and accessories that would rock. Kinda tired of Empire being the only scenery out there.

I agree that GW's momentum on releases the last few years has been lacking.

What I don't get is this idea that books and models have to be released together. TK for example are 2 editions old and the hold up is most likely due to waiting for models to be finished.

From what I can tell, releasing secondary waves of models for armies well after their books are out has been successful.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:John's got to be banned, a Dogs of War reference and he's not in the thread within 24hrs.

GW could revamp Dogs of War as "Warhammer Mercenaries", and it would be the right thing to do, but we know that ain't gonna happen any more than we'll get Chaos Dwarves or Squats back...

If it's not DoW, I couldn't care less at this point. I'm playing hardly any Fantasy, and not even bothering to follow the game any more.

If I want a medieval battles game, I'll play BattleLore, which is both more-realistic and smoother-playing than Fantasy, at a small fraction of the price.

Warhammer Forge is doing Chaos Dwarves, so they haven't exactly been squatted.

2010. 1 Fantasy Armybook. 2 40K Codexes.

key word is usually. 2010 was an unusually slow year.

chaos0xomega wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:GW could revamp Dogs of War as "Warhammer Mercenaries", and it would be the right thing to do, but we know that ain't gonna happen any more than we'll get Chaos Dwarves or Squats back...

If it's not DoW, I couldn't care less at this point. I'm playing hardly any Fantasy, and not even bothering to follow the game any more.

If I want a medieval battles game, I'll play BattleLore, which is both more-realistic and smoother-playing than Fantasy, at a small fraction of the price.

Warhammer Forge is doing Chaos Dwarves, so they haven't exactly been squatted.

No Army Book, so yes they have.

Considering that Forgeworld doesn't even acknowledge squats, I would say that Chaos Dwarves have a good bit more life left in them.

Isn't it a 'you can mix all of chaos together' release I thought I saw somewhere on the main page?

Also I'm not liking the lack of WE support of the whole 'every army has a monster' approach that the might be starting to take.

JohnHwangDD wrote:No Army Book, so yes they have.

FW and GW are still fighting over who may do a complete Chaos Dwarf army book Seriously, CDs still have friends among the creative staff, Squats not so much.

Phototoxin wrote:Isn't it a 'you can mix all of chaos together' release I thought I saw somewhere on the main page?

This and Chaos Dwarfs are topics for the Warhammer Forge thread, not this one about the Warhammer expansion coming this summer.

Phototoxin wrote:Also I'm not liking the lack of WE support of the whole 'every army has a monster' approach that the might be starting to take.

Is a big arse walking tree not montrous enough for you? When GW finally swing round to WE again, I expect the treeman kit will be amazing.

Kroothawk wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:No Army Book, so yes they have.

FW and GW are still fighting over who may do a complete Chaos Dwarf army book Seriously, CDs still have friends among the creative staff, Squats not so much.

As of 8E, if you don't have a printed Army Book, you're not an "official" army. Ergo, CD are dead.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:GW could revamp Dogs of War as "Warhammer Mercenaries", and it would be the right thing to do, but we know that ain't gonna happen any more than we'll get Chaos Dwarves or Squats back...

If it's not DoW, I couldn't care less at this point. I'm playing hardly any Fantasy, and not even bothering to follow the game any more.

If I want a medieval battles game, I'll play BattleLore, which is both more-realistic and smoother-playing than Fantasy, at a small fraction of the price.

Warhammer Forge is doing Chaos Dwarves, so they haven't exactly been squatted.

No Army Book, so yes they have.

"Squatting" means they've been completely erased and forgotten, with nary a mention and with the GWQuisition breaking into your home and destroying your models as an example to the others.

The Chaos Dwarves have the Hellcannon entry, still exist in the background, and are in the line-up for FW to release several more complimentary units of Chaos Dwarf warmachines for the Warriors of Chaos.

They've far from been squatted.

Flashman wrote:

Phototoxin wrote:Also I'm not liking the lack of WE support of the whole 'every army has a monster' approach that the might be starting to take.

Is a big arse walking tree not montrous enough for you? When GW finally swing round to WE again, I expect the treeman kit will be amazing.

Aye, if any of the elves want for monsters it's the High Elves. Unless we're counting mounts, of course. In which case, hey, the Wood Elves also get their forest dragon-riding ladies.

Otherwise, there's still a fair few non-monstered-up armies - dwarves, Bretonnians, empire (unless counting the steam tank as one) and vampire counts (well, not in the gaming sense. I'm pretty sure vampires and their minions are considered monsters in a more general sense ). All of which I imagine are quite happy without them.

Of course, the lack of WE support in general (see also Brets, Tomb Kings etc.) is sad to see, and they'll hopefully get a rejig in the nearish future.

I hope the Bretonnians never really get monsters. It just doesn't fit for them. They kill off all the really dangerous beasties, and the most "monstery" they go is for Hippogryphons.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:No Army Book, so yes they have.

FW and GW are still fighting over who may do a complete Chaos Dwarf army book Seriously, CDs still have friends among the creative staff, Squats not so much.

As of 8E, if you don't have a printed Army Book, you're not an "official" army. Ergo, CD are dead.

Well, they even have a shiney new Indy GT legal army book

UltraPrime wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:Doubt it. 40k and Fantasy both usually see 3 armybooks/codecies per year, plus in the summer one of the two usually sees a major release, like an expansion, new edition, etc. I'm a bit surprised, because Fantasy had 8th ed. last year, but I suppose it isn't unheard of for back-to-back summer releases.

2010. 1 Fantasy Armybook. 2 40K Codexes.

There was three 40K codexes in 2010:

Tyranids - January
Blood Angels - April
Dark Eldar - November

40k averages 3 Codices per year, plus an "special" release of some sort. 40k has nothing to worry about.

Didnt the doggies get released last year too? Or was that late 09 I cant remember.

2 Codices 2009, 2.5 Codices 2008 (the half one is Daemons), 2 Codices 2007, 2 Codices 2006:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_%28Warhammer_40,000%29

Army books:
1 army book 20010, 2 army books 2009, 3.5 army books 2008 (half one is Daemons), 2 army books 2007, 1 army book 2006:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armies_of_Warhammer

Start to worry

I would seriously kill for the "mixing chaos in one army" rumour. I know it'll never happen, but hell, weirder things have happened (Dark Eldar and Grey Knights in the space of a year).

Anyway, Quest would be lovely.

And to settle the army book/codex thing: OnG and TK for Fantasy, GK and Necrons for 40k, I reckon.

Cerebrium wrote:I would seriously kill for the "mixing chaos in one army" rumour. I know it'll never happen, but hell, weirder things have happened (Dark Eldar and Grey Knights in the space of a year).

Anyway, Quest would be lovely.

And to settle the army book/codex thing: OnG and TK for Fantasy, GK and Necrons for 40k, I reckon.

Quest already exists, sort of, as in Fnatasy Flights board game Descent: Journey into darkness.

Cerebrium wrote:I would seriously kill for the "mixing chaos in one army" rumour. I know it'll never happen, but hell, weirder things have happened.

It is not a rumour: Warhammer Forge has confirmed that they will release a Chaos army list including all three fractions, but again: You are in the wrong thread as Warhammer Forge stuff and the confirmation is discussed here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/342397.page

What about Warmaster?

Warhammer collectible card game !

Lord of battles wrote:What about Warmaster?

Warmaster is not a Warhammer extension, but a separate game, as are Mordheim and Heroquest/Warhammer Quest.