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Noisy_Marine wrote:

NoBaconz4You wrote:Have you seen the rules (or 'leaked' copy), they are insanely cheap, same points as a regular bolter armed marine, but with a force weapon AND a storm bolter (assault, ASSAULT NOT Rapid fire!) and psychic powers! Omg, and the dreadknight aswell, makes me want to puke!

What are? Thousand Sons?

Sorry, the grey knight strike squad.

Codex: Grey Knights killed Kenny!

Codex: Grey Knights makes Codex: BA look like Codex: Eldar

Codex Grey Knights has no unit that can kill a Tervigon in a heartbeat (hahaha!).

Noisy_Marine wrote:Having read your reply, I maintain that the whole grey knight with a demon sword still sounds stupid. I don't care about the rules of the sword, its just a dumb idea.

Well this how about this:

The sword cannot be destroyed by any means. Smashing, melding, psychic blasting, plasma, vaporizing, all are useless.

So what do you do with it?

If they cast it into the void, it will draw a new owner and corrupt them.

If it is hidden in the vaults below Titan, it will corrupt the servitor keepers there.

So what do you do with the sword? The only thing you can do: give it to your most devout, martially skilled, incorruptable member, and have him use it's pure physical properties, not it's psychic abilities or bound Daemon.

@ Kroothawk Don't you mean that can't kill a Tervigon in a heartbeat? Libbys can, if your going under the assumption of this codex is the one which will be released.

shealyr wrote:If it is hidden in the vaults below Titan, it will corrupt the servitor keepers there.

If they were corruptible, why are they used anywhere near the vaults?

So what do you do with the sword? The only thing you can do: give it to your most devout, martially skilled, incorruptable member, and have him use it's pure physical properties, not it's psychic abilities or bound Daemon.

Why would he wield a daemon weapon for such a paltry benefit? Like I said, the fluff would be far less stupid if he was just guarding it and not using it as a weapon.

Kroothawk wrote:Codex Grey Knights has no unit that can kill a Tervigon in a heartbeat (hahaha!).

H.B.M.C. wrote:Now show me on this Codex where Matt Ward touched you...

He tried to Land Raider my Vortex of Doom with his Warding Stave.

Codex grey knights has not been released yet and has made people bitch about how OP it will be.

ChrisWWII wrote:Most of the fluff is decent, and makes sense. However, it's just the Daigo fluff that drives me nuts. If they had ended it with him being sucked into the Warp, and appearing occasionally to help the Grey Knights, then it'd actually be pretty awesome!

But no, they had to put in a bunch of stuff of him doing awesome stuff in the Realm of Chaos....

Umm...what happens when you put an elite, highly-specialised warrior in a place swarming with their prefered prey?

Shas'O Dorian wrote:Codex grey knights has not been released yet and has made people bitch about how OP it will be.

Because people are looking over a leaked copy and can see for themselves what is available and what things cost, and there are some rather crazy options and costs.

Umm...what happens when you put an elite, highly-specialised warrior in a place swarming with their prefered prey?

There's a difference here.

Lets take a Lion Hunter. He's great at hunting lions, has killed hundreds. But he's probably going to last about 5 seconds, if that, if he suddenly ends up in the middle of a Lion pride.

There's a difference between being good at fighting an enemy, and being able to walk into a nether-dimension where the laws of nature don't apply, walk right into the heart of your enemies power, and simply annihilate everything in your path. He's doing stuff that even Primarchs, Phoenix Warriors, and even the God Emperor couldn't do.

Vaktathi wrote:

Shas'O Dorian wrote:Codex grey knights has not been released yet and has made people bitch about how OP it will be.

Because people are looking over a leaked copy and can see for themselves what is available and what things cost, and there are some rather crazy options and costs.

well the leaked document if valid is still a working copy and probably something GW leaked to see how people would react, also, Ordo hereticus, Xenos, and malleus inquisitors......... I dont want to say it but ... you know what I'm thinking.

also, if the henchmen stuff is true, it's WIN, admech army time!!!!

There's a difference here.

Lets take a Lion Hunter. He's great at hunting lions, has killed hundreds. But he's probably going to last about 5 seconds, if that, if he suddenly ends up in the middle of a Lion pride.

There's a difference between being good at fighting an enemy, and being able to walk into a nether-dimension where the laws of nature don't apply, walk right into the heart of your enemies power, and simply annihilate everything in your path. He's doing stuff that even Primarchs, Phoenix Warriors, and even the God Emperor couldn't do.

Except Grey Knights are supposed to transcend being merely good. Hes the second in command. I'd say that would put him on near-Primarch power.

He may be near-Primarch power, but (ignoring the fact he curb stomped a daemon Primarch, which is its own can of worms), but even Primarchs didn't go around annhilating all that was sent to face them. Leman Russ isn't going around burning Nurgle's garden or tearing down Tzeentch's city....so why is Daigo suddenly able to do that?

Mr Hyena wrote:
Except Grey Knights are supposed to transcend being merely good. Hes the second in command. I'd say that would put him on near-Primarch power.

He's still a Space Marine, it's not like he's physically any different than any other Marine, just more experienced, maybe a bit more psychically powerful, but that shouldn't put him on the level of a Primarch, and certainly not on the level of doing stuff even the Primarch's or the God Emperor never achieved.

The God Emperor and the Custodes had their hands full holding off a Daemonic invasion through the Imperial Webway during the Siege of Terra. I find it hard to believe that if the God Emperor and his mighty Custodes could not tread in such a place, wreak such havoc, or strike an emotion like Fear into Daemons, then a Grey Knight, even as specialized as he is, isn't going to do so.

That's a good point. Draigo isn't a Primarch, but he's beaten one in combat. Then he made the warp his bitch. I bet Magus the Red wishes he could do that too.

Codex Grey Knights stole my money!

Codex Grey Knights stole my girlfriend!

Codex Grey Knights graped my love for people

Codex grey knight owned my puppy.

Codex Grey Knights stole my car.

Codex Grey knights BLAMED THE VICTIM!

Codex Grey Knights bit my finger.

Codex Grey Knights is the Shake Weight of Warhammer 40,000. "Your workout is finished, here is some cab fare, now going to sleep mode."

shealyr wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:I didn't see the inquisitor ruling, but I did see the "henchmen units will not take up any slots in the FOC" comment right under their heading. Is it in the inquisitors rule section?

-whoop, just saw that part. I need to read more carefully next time

Annnnnnd here is your problem ladies and gentlemen. People are assuming that the codex is going to be overpowered instead of actually reading the rules carefully to try and get a real sense of the matter.

Some of us were also getting ready for work and only had a couple of minutes to peruse the book and tried to look at EVERYTHING within 5 minutes. Details get missed. Besides, it was quite a common rumor that they were going to be able to exist outside of the FOC, regardless of inquisitors. Sarcasm wasn't really necessary here, right bud?

Codex: Grey Knights is so powerful that it can travel back in time to make all the previous losses 5th Ed Grey Knight codices ever suffered insta-wins

When Codex: Grey Knights goes into the warp, it goes to the throne of skulls, looks up, and sees a Grey Knight on top of it.

Codex: Grey Knights is the first codex that will allow me to field 40 Kird Apes since M:tG unlimited

Codex: Grey Knights wrote itself, burned itself, and rose from the ashes

Codex: Grey Knights is made of Awesome Space Magic and Kittens, and Titan is all out of kittens.

Codex: Grey Knights allowed Matt Ward to travel back in time and choke the ten year old version of him that didn't want to write codices. Then it let him travel back in time to save himself from his alternate self and show him what would happen if he didn't as the present and past Matt Wards watch an alternate present Matt Ward choke the alternate past Matt Ward for not liking Space Marines. Then it resolved the paradox created by this, leaving Matt Ward with the subconscious desire to make the ultimate Space Marines Codex. Ultimately leading to Codex: Grey Knight's creation. Thus Codex: Grey Knights not only created itself it altered the timeline to ensure it created itself.

GW considered having Chuck Norris as a special character in the Grey Knight Codex, but he turned out too weak.

Footsloggin wrote:@ Kroothawk Don't you mean that can't kill a Tervigon in a heartbeat? Libbys can, if your going under the assumption of this codex is the one which will be released.

Shas'O Dorian wrote:Codex grey knights has not been released yet and has made people bitch about how OP it will be.

You are aware that this is a satirical thread, right? Of course does every new Codex have an autowin button against Tyranids!

Codex Grey Knights came and took mah baby!

Codex Grey Knights kicked the dog.

Codex Grey Knights was the cat. (10 points to those that get the reference!)

Codex Grey Knights was phone.

Codex Grey Knights took our jobs!

Codex Grey Knights is a spy!

Codex Grey Knights is a lie!

I think that everybody talking about codex creep is wrong.. It's fluff creep.. When Tau will be released Commander Farsight is going to @$$rape Khorne and some random Etheral will close the Eye of Terror for good...

Deadshane1 wrote:Grey Knight Psycannon....state of the art BANG BANG!


I LIKE IT!

Give the man a hand!

Kroothawk wrote:Of course does every new Codex have an autowin button against Tyranids!

*Looks at C: Dark Eldar* Ok, my Nids are dead there, Poisoned weapons galore...

*Looks at C: Blood Angels* Damn you Mephy and FnP craziness slaughtering my MCs and gribblies...

*Looks at C: Space Wolves* Why do they have armywide Counter attack and a 24" line which sucks up all of my MCs and 15 Missile launchers!!!!

*Looks at C: Imperial Guard* Tanks, blobs, and chimeras...

Dear GW,

Why did you remove EW Synapse? Also, did you think it was a genius idea to give an assault based army NO ASSAULT GRENADES?!

But in all seriousness, GKs are just the final nail in the Tyranid Biological coffin. Hopefully when the real codex comes out, it will change, and clarify certain aspects.

Grey Knights will get a second wave before Tyranids.

Codex Grey Knights has just one weak point, but it's ray shielded so we'll have to use proton torpedoes.

Codex Grey Knights made Mary Sue cry because she's underpowered.

Codex Grey Knights craved its name into Andy Chamber's heart.

Codex Grey Knights has 10% more skulls on its cover than any other codex ever.

Codex Grey Knights is what's for dinner.

Codex Grey Knights once arm-wrestled Kharn. And won.

Codex Grey Knights gave a sponge bath to Nurgle.