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2011/04/04 20:28:54
Subject: Re:SM Grey Knight Blog (Update 3st April - Vet Sgt completed)
@Young_Logan - Thanks, I love the new plastic models, my god the options, the poses, the bits! its all better in every way, oh and one box can make up to four different aspects of the force (purifiers, strike, interceptors and purgatation) and I've been waiting so long for them to come out as well.
@WM - Cheers man, hoods were the bane of my existance as well, that and skin (I will have to post some of my very early skin attempts for poop and laughter) I feel that the trip to my flgs helped me to no end. fingers crossed there will be more models you like coming up
@Hangfire - Thanks! I too really like the new painting style that's evolved and I hope that I can only get better.
The black lining is done by a couple of steps, base coat the model white, base coat fortress grey, black wash, recover with fortress grey leaving the black line at the plate intersections (requires a steady hand) then edge highlight with spacewolf grey.
I'll definitley start doing more WIP shots if that's what people want to see!
Update: Rhino Completed its called Purafi sorry there is some glare on that part.
Front
Back
Only one wheeled bike left to do with this push thank you all for your comments.
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IceAngel wrote:I must say Knightley, I am very envious of your squiggle ability. I mean, if squiggles were a tactical squad, you'd be the sergeant. If squiggles were an HQ, you'd be the special character. If squiggles were a way of life, you'd be Doctor Phil...
Damn! You did that with a wash, I would never have guessed. My own experience of washes is that they don't leave solid enough colour, but you've certainly convinced me to have another go. You just do the one wash right? Do you cover the whole mini or just try and hit the shade areas?
FOW: Soviet - Tankovy
Infinity: Aleph
2011/04/06 05:49:13
Subject: Re:SM Grey Knight Blog (Update 5st April - Rhino completed)
Yeah one wash, i guess its pretty heavy, either that or I am really bad at using washes but the result is good. Who knows, with the guys I do I end up covering the entire model due to having 3 main colours grey/metal/red and its worked out well so far.
so this was from last night
its the basic colours done with no wash, I'll do what I can tonight and post it tomorrow
IceAngel wrote:I must say Knightley, I am very envious of your squiggle ability. I mean, if squiggles were a tactical squad, you'd be the sergeant. If squiggles were an HQ, you'd be the special character. If squiggles were a way of life, you'd be Doctor Phil...
Bobbing along on the briny North Sea, and Montrose, Scotland when home
Hi, I have been away for a while, amazing how real life (or virtual life) can affect things in the hobby world.
I have been considering grey knights for a while as a side project to my space wolves..... I want to theme it around the 1st war for Armageddon.
Anyway your Grey Knight stuff looks great and has certainly helped me to decide in the direction I would like to go..... Painting silver would drive me bonkers.
As a side note to the question posed earlier, which codex to use..... the simple answer would be both.
Grey knight codex for your full grey knights and Space Marine codex for your initiates. Just use 1 dorce as an ally for the other, problem solved.The "initiates" as grey knights in training they will not have acess to the full arsenal of the Grey Knights, including the psychic powers.
However they would still need to train as basic marines do, so they need to be able to use any standard weaponry that a marine would use. So you could justify kitting them out the way that you have.
If you wanted to do a piece of fluff, it could be for example, a grey knight crusade spanning decades and many warzones (pursuit of a greater daemon perhaps)with a heavily depleted contingent of Grey Knights, who while fighting alongside various chapters have taken a group of initiates on, due to their exceptional skills, psychic powers etc and their hatred of all thiings daemonic (plus maybe they know too much and are too valuable to waste).
They are being rigourously tested to show their zeal and loyalty to their new brotherhood. It might help explain the mix ofarmour types through the force too.
Just my thoughts.... But the main thing is that I like your army, I like your style and I cant wait to see more
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- H8
@E_C - cheers man thank you for keeping an eye on the thread as well, next push should have a DreadKnight in the mix so stay tuned for that
@dantay_xv - Thank you very much for your comments. I'm stoked I've helped you get some sense of direction for your GK army
With the codex I've ultimately allowed myself to use both if I want to. I have wargear (Thunderfire cannon, bikes, speeders etc) which are not featured in the GK codex however I still like the models yet on the flipside I really really like the GK models so it made sense to have a GK force I could use as well. So the short is both ever the fence sitter.
Fluff wise? I'm happy to admit I'm the least successful person in coming up with fluff for army's. I have a serious case of the Mary-sue'ness running through my veins and I hate to see my guys get cut down! I do really like the idea you've got going on and I would like to see more input from those who care to offer it regarding fluff for my army.
At the moment I have this idea running through my mind.
Spoiler:
The Grey knight Prognosticars on Titan detected a potential warp rift in a sector on the south eastern fringes and two ten man strike squads of Grey Knights, Senior Techmarine Onox and Librarian Elban were dispatched to intervene with the strike cruiser ‘Intolerance’ The Knights arrived to the sector and found the central worlds being overrun by the defense force who had turned to the dark gods. Loyalist forces of Ultramarines, Black Templars and Dark angels were in battle trying to regain control but were hard pressed due to the limited amount of their own forces that were available.
The Grey Knights scanned the major worlds and detect a warp disturbance on the Agriworld of Couture The Techmarine remained on board and the Knights deployed to the planet’s surface they quickly came under attack by traitor guardsmen who had light tanks and a few demons in support, after surgical strikes to the enemy’s support lines and heavy weapon teams they pushed through to the disturbance to find a ritual of summoning, The rituals central point was an Ultramarines librarian chained up with chaotic runes etched over his body writhing in agony as a daemon attempted to take over his physical form.
A vicious fight ensued as the traitors tried to bide time for the summoning ritual to complete allowing a powerful daemon to take over the librarian’s form. By this point the Grey Knight force has suffered minor losses during the strike to the summoning ritual and they suffered more during the battle at the ritual, however they managed to kill the host before the daemon burst forth into the material realm with the Grey Knight librarian striking the host with his nemesis force halberd and over loading the weakened mind of the host.
As the traitor forces were dispersed the Grey Knights took stock of their forces to find that only 7 Knights had survived along with the Librarian, however they knew that there was far more to be done in the sector. They teleported back to the strike cruiser ‘Intolerance’ Here the Knights had found out that the main hive world was finally being overrun and that the loyalist marines had started to turn on each other. A single transport shuttle attempted to bolt from the hive world and was being followed by three attack craft which were gaining rapidly, the attack craft scored direct hits on the engines and shield generators on the transport craft leaving it a sitting duck in space.
The transport bore the heraldry of the planets governor general and the Elban knew that for this sector to continue there would need to be a governing force and decided to assist, they quickly destroying the three attack craft and the Grey Knights invited the governor general and his retinue onto their cruiser while they formulated a plan of attack.
To find out what had happened in the sector they questioned the general only to find he was less than helpful as most Politian’s are, however his retinue’s psychic was happy to advise how it was he who had detected a looming shadow heading towards their sector and it was he who had contacted any loyalist marines in the area for support. His support request was answered by a company of Ultramarines including vehicle support, 4 tactical squads from the Dark Angels and a half company of Black Templars with vehicle support. The Ultramarines arrived first and as they made planet fall pockets of insurrection started to pop up across the hive world, the local guard forces were deployed and as they arrived to engage they turned their guns on each other and those that were left alive joined the traitors.
Similar events started to happen across all the worlds in the sector and that’s when the marines were deployed. One of the major battles turned badly for the loyalist’s when two squads worth of marines from the Ultramarines engaged their own forces citing their brothers had turned over to chaos. They were quickly eliminated however more and more marines started to turn and now only the true of heart marines were left and they were starting to lose ground.
The Grey Knight’s realizing they were going to be hard pressed to fight an entire planets worth of heretic’s sent a psychic request back to Titan for them to send more units, the requested was answered by Brother Captain Stern who quickly sent as many Knights as he could including a Dread Knight and Venerable Dreadnaught. Stern advised he would be accompanying the force as the threat level for the sector had gone up with the information relayed to him.
Elban realized that the support force would be weeks away at best and contacted the last remaining loyalist marines who were on the planet offering support where it was needed. In the coming weeks another four Knights fell to fighting however with the loyalist marines in support they held major vital areas. With the help of senior Techmarine Onox battlefield repairs were made to broken vehicles and adjustments were made to increase the firepower of others. To separate the loyalist marines from the one who had turned the Grey Knights made the remaining marines to repaint their armour in their same grey of their own, in the heat of battle they were able to differentiate friend from foe at a quick glance.
The arrival of the support fleet from Titan was met with great relief however upon their arrival a great warp storm started engulfing the sector stopping all communication and travel to and from the sector.
Update: bike WIP pics in-comming!
Bike with black wash over everything
Seats, Red and bone added - some Grey started
White and more Grey applied red also highlighted
All the Grey applied and more white applied
All that's left now is the highlights on the Grey and heraldry to be applied.
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IceAngel wrote:I must say Knightley, I am very envious of your squiggle ability. I mean, if squiggles were a tactical squad, you'd be the sergeant. If squiggles were an HQ, you'd be the special character. If squiggles were a way of life, you'd be Doctor Phil...
I'm both chaotic and orderly. I value my own principles, and am willing to go to extreme lengths to enforce them, often trampling on the very same principles in the process. At best, I'm heroic and principled; at worst, I'm hypocritical and disorderly.
2011/04/08 05:04:36
Subject: Re:SM Grey Knight Blog (Update 7th April - Bike 2 WIP and my first attempt at fluff)
Cheers Holy! Wasn't sure the fluff was any good but hey can't hurt to try
Update: Bike done!
Front
Back
Both bikes together
Side
IceAngel wrote:I must say Knightley, I am very envious of your squiggle ability. I mean, if squiggles were a tactical squad, you'd be the sergeant. If squiggles were an HQ, you'd be the special character. If squiggles were a way of life, you'd be Doctor Phil...
Bobbing along on the briny North Sea, and Montrose, Scotland when home
Yep, the fluff sounds great, I find that even putting a small amount of narrative can help to motivate and style the force you want to have..... Grand master Knightley
Kanluwen wrote: What's that quote from Mauleed? "When you can make complete strangers on the Internet hate you, you know you're doing something magical."?
Hatemonger wrote: If that is true, then GW must be run by Gandalf and Nagash and Harry Potter and Tinker Bell, because this site alone is crapping rainbows worth of magical internet nerdrage.
- H8
Cheers Dantay, I might have to give some more fluff a try a bit later on.
Grand master you say? not quite yet, perhaps once the full force is done I could perhaps use the title brother-captain till now, I'm happy with perhaps justicar or battle brother
I decided to take a pic of the first push in their entirety
Group
Left
Centre
Right
IceAngel wrote:I must say Knightley, I am very envious of your squiggle ability. I mean, if squiggles were a tactical squad, you'd be the sergeant. If squiggles were an HQ, you'd be the special character. If squiggles were a way of life, you'd be Doctor Phil...
Cheers Graven! I'll have a squizz around my bits trunk and see if I'm in deficit in anything
Update,
Sadly not much to show today, spent most of the weekend trying to trim off flash and drill barrels (why on earth did I agree to do that, its so time consuming!)
However after looking at the Dreadknight for 6 hours and not getting much done, I did manage to complete this bad boy
Counts as a Seige hammer for my Ironclad dread, so turns out the Ironclad will be the first to get a repaint!
As highlighted earlier, I've hit a bit of a wall with the Dreadknight, the front baby carrier needs to be changed yet I'm face planting against the concrete on how to do so.
I figure I want to have a venerable dread sarcophagus as the front chest protector, but then what?
Do I add the carrier arms?
Or try to come up with something else? I'd like ideas from the masses
IceAngel wrote:I must say Knightley, I am very envious of your squiggle ability. I mean, if squiggles were a tactical squad, you'd be the sergeant. If squiggles were an HQ, you'd be the special character. If squiggles were a way of life, you'd be Doctor Phil...
Baby carrier arms look good! I loathe the dreadknight frame - it didn't work in Matrix, you'd think they'd learn - and was thinking ven dread bits the way forward. Good call mr!
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2011/04/11 09:43:20
Subject: SM Grey Knight Blog (Update 11th April - Seige hammer and DK WIP - need ideas)
Bobbing along on the briny North Sea, and Montrose, Scotland when home
I like the venerable dread cover on the baby frame.
If you do not put the arms on the guy will look helluva squished in there. Or is it your intention for it to be a dreadknight controlled by an almost dead hero in a dreadnought sarcophagus?
In matrix the guys were unarmoured which was a big flaw, but on the dreadknight, the guys are in Termie armour, so he should be pretty well protected (do not have the codex to look at unfortunately).
Kanluwen wrote: What's that quote from Mauleed? "When you can make complete strangers on the Internet hate you, you know you're doing something magical."?
Hatemonger wrote: If that is true, then GW must be run by Gandalf and Nagash and Harry Potter and Tinker Bell, because this site alone is crapping rainbows worth of magical internet nerdrage.
- H8
@bigmek35 - Agree with you on that, came back to it last night and with out the arms it just looked wrong.
@Breotan - Hahah, the images that conjures up.... has anyone tried the 'Fly on the wall' type attractions at fairs etc? basically your in a Velcro suit and you throw yourself at a wall made of the opposite Velcro trying the most bizzare landing poses possible... now imagine that with a terminator armoured suit of death....
@Graven - Cheers mate, the next hurdle is to make the font blend/match the current aesthetics of the DK, I have a feeling it's going to get worse before it gets better here
@dantay - Cheers for the comments, He will have his arms but I think I'll be adding on additional armour plating to beef him up 1mm cardstock should suffice there. Also looking at doing the same for his legs/feet/lower body as having an armoured top half and nothing below is a little naff.
Update
Close Combat marine for the command squad all blue tac'd up. just need to base him then on to painting.
Objective 1 trial. guns, lots of guns, the big crate in the back holds 3 Bolters. Still need to make a rack to hold the flamer and plasma gun.
C&C or just say Hi
IceAngel wrote:I must say Knightley, I am very envious of your squiggle ability. I mean, if squiggles were a tactical squad, you'd be the sergeant. If squiggles were an HQ, you'd be the special character. If squiggles were a way of life, you'd be Doctor Phil...
Hahah WM g'day back I have shaved the logo off, I've tried to do that with most of the DA icon's
Update:
This does need a bit of Greenstuff to tidy it all up.
DK shoulder weapon
DK shoulder weapon rear
Objective marker with base - this isn't glued but I figure this is what it will look like
Is the shoulder weapon to small?
IceAngel wrote:I must say Knightley, I am very envious of your squiggle ability. I mean, if squiggles were a tactical squad, you'd be the sergeant. If squiggles were an HQ, you'd be the special character. If squiggles were a way of life, you'd be Doctor Phil...
Now for the bad news. I'm really struggling with the front of the damn DK i'm making very slow head way but some steps forward equal 2 steps back.
The wings on the side will need to be trimmed down, the gap between the top of the wings and the cables will be a skull. thoughts on the lights on top? does the shoulder mounted weapon work?
IceAngel wrote:I must say Knightley, I am very envious of your squiggle ability. I mean, if squiggles were a tactical squad, you'd be the sergeant. If squiggles were an HQ, you'd be the special character. If squiggles were a way of life, you'd be Doctor Phil...
Bobbing along on the briny North Sea, and Montrose, Scotland when home
I like the shoulder weapon, but not sure on the lights.
How do you plan to put the arms on behind the wings? It looks great just curious to know if the rider is to be immoblie behind it or if he is still supposed to move around?
Kanluwen wrote: What's that quote from Mauleed? "When you can make complete strangers on the Internet hate you, you know you're doing something magical."?
Hatemonger wrote: If that is true, then GW must be run by Gandalf and Nagash and Harry Potter and Tinker Bell, because this site alone is crapping rainbows worth of magical internet nerdrage.
- H8
Cheers Graven, I'm still not sold on the RW parts, but if I can halve the thickness of the wings it might change my opinion of it.
Thanks WM after this part only the leg areas will be left to do, I have a small idea on it but not sure how they will look, but I may have to take a chance.
Thanks Dantay, the lights were an after thought I guess i'll have to see what the whole model looks like at the end before making a final call on to include it or not. The arms have a bit of movement behind the wings, and once trimmed up should be able to move even more freely. I think tonight I'll have to try and slim down the wings and see what happens next.
IceAngel wrote:I must say Knightley, I am very envious of your squiggle ability. I mean, if squiggles were a tactical squad, you'd be the sergeant. If squiggles were an HQ, you'd be the special character. If squiggles were a way of life, you'd be Doctor Phil...
Apologies for the time its taken me to post again, had a bit going on.
So whats the update? I did manage to finish up the baby holder for the DK however will keep that hidden to keep some mystery in my blog and keep you all coming back for more
19 models primed and ready to rock
Left near the grass container is the bits for the obj marker, Below that is the HQCC marine, a flamer marine and a Dread CC weapon.
Below that is the Dreadknight.
Centre is 5 metal GKs and Chronus, below that is 3 marines
Right is 2 GK halaberd marines below them is an attack bike and very far right is the Terminator Paladin with Psycannon and the main tac squad sgt.
Threw some paint on the HQCC marine
With this guy I'm trying something new and going with a Adeptus Battlegrey base colour instead of fortress grey, will have to see what it does to the overall look
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IceAngel wrote:I must say Knightley, I am very envious of your squiggle ability. I mean, if squiggles were a tactical squad, you'd be the sergeant. If squiggles were an HQ, you'd be the special character. If squiggles were a way of life, you'd be Doctor Phil...
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IceAngel wrote:I must say Knightley, I am very envious of your squiggle ability. I mean, if squiggles were a tactical squad, you'd be the sergeant. If squiggles were an HQ, you'd be the special character. If squiggles were a way of life, you'd be Doctor Phil...
Tell me about it! the shoulder pad smurf icon took so damn long to get it off, even then I'm not 100% happy with it, but with no Dremel tool I've done what I can.
Update for this morning:
First coat of blood red
need another then a red wash to hopefully blend it a bit more.
IceAngel wrote:I must say Knightley, I am very envious of your squiggle ability. I mean, if squiggles were a tactical squad, you'd be the sergeant. If squiggles were an HQ, you'd be the special character. If squiggles were a way of life, you'd be Doctor Phil...
Bobbing along on the briny North Sea, and Montrose, Scotland when home
Shame you couldnt have sculpted around the Ultrasmurf logo with GS and put a pattern over it... nice vivid red though
Kanluwen wrote: What's that quote from Mauleed? "When you can make complete strangers on the Internet hate you, you know you're doing something magical."?
Hatemonger wrote: If that is true, then GW must be run by Gandalf and Nagash and Harry Potter and Tinker Bell, because this site alone is crapping rainbows worth of magical internet nerdrage.
- H8