Controversial opinions

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**Sledgio**

I have to agree!

My controversial opinion is this: the Emperor is (no, not Chuck Norris [chuck created the emperor]) extremely vain, and gave half of his sons as an offering to the chaos Gods so that a load of Black Library books could be written and sold (he owns the Black Library as well now) and he would make a lot of money.

And he claims every planet of the Imperium as his second homes and puts them on expenses to pay for his hospital treatment (his life-support-chair-throne-thing)

**Ugavine**

I think Games Workshop prices are reasonable.

**withershadow**

Now THERE's a controversial opinion!

**geordie09**

Cerebrium wrote:Thunderfire is possibly the best gun in the game.

I've used it to decent effect!

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Reanimator wrote:

Playing a unit because you like the way it looks or because you think it's cool is a valid reason.

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I think alot of people vote 10/10 for their own minis on here... how else would some of the most atrocious painting appear at the top of my gallery search despite its poor appearance?

**Thaanos**

The Dice Gods are Gork and Mork!

**AresX8**

EvilTim wrote:
loota boy wrote:
DarkDrgon wrote:I'm not sure if this is controversial or not, but it was a big debate at my FLGS:

AoBR is a better Ork battleforce than the Ork battleforce

This is pretty obvious. The ork battleforce gets you 3 bikers, 20 boyz, and a trukk. If you are going to use the trukk, you can't load the full 12 in without having 8 left, which is illegal. So You have to load just ten, and then you have 10 footslogging, useless boyz. 3 warbikes is also equally worthless, as they have as much damage output as just three boyz, but still int 2. Also, when you total up set costs, for $22 per 10 orks, $25 for bikers, and $30 for trukk, it totals out to $104.94 with a six percent tax. For the battleforce, it's a total of $95.40. Congratz, you saved a grand total of $9.54. So much for saving money on the battleforce. The blackreach box is stupidly cost effective, because not only are you saving more than the ork battleforce, but that's just for the orks! You also save $8 for templates, $50 for a rulebook, and get some long plastic things! But wait, there's more! You also get an awesome space marines battleforce too! So You could split the cost with a friend, and save even more amounts of money, or you could trade the marines off to some player for some more orks!

A Definite case of QFT

A lot of people grumbled about the AOBR figure quality, but looking on the GW Site, forums and even Google Images, You can clearly see there's nothing wrong with them,

Remember: There snap fit!
Compare them to older snap fit models and there actually REALLY good quality, downside is only that 'Unique-ing' them is a bit more work, but hey go look at the Dreadnought show off thread for example, and see what can be done with them.

Also, My biggest thumb up for AOBR is that I think the Deffkopta design is FAR superior to the one's bought from GW individually.

New "Controversial Opinion":

There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with Ultramarines,

Okay lots of people paint them (and unfortunately, no disrespect to any UM players here, a lot are painted horribly, but consider how many people play UM as there first army when there young, it's going to happen).

Grumble, grumble, grumble, but they get all the glory in the SM Dex

Maybe, but the same can be said about almost all Dex's (Aside from GK, and Non-Vanilla SM Dex's, Dexes, Dexi?) The Ork Dex is All "Goff, Goff, Goff", The CSM is all "THA BLACK LEGION IS THE AWESOME!"

My personal view is that the UM can be good, and even *Gasp!* Cool (yeah I used UM and Cool in the same sentence and Im not 12) as long as there done right. Quick example:

Poorly painted, almost typical UM (Apologize to the painter, but lets be honest)

Well painted UM
(Granted this is GDemon standard, OTT, But still Cool!)

Cheers to CMON for images

/Rant

Whole heartedly agree about Ultras. When you look beyond the whole stigma of most people painting Ultras as their first army, you find that they are Space Romans. That's ridiculously awesome. Albeit I'm completely biased as I picked Ultras after researching the rest of the chapters and also am a huge fan of McNeill's novels.

**ChrisWWII**

Ugavine wrote:I think Games Workshop prices are reasonable.

I agree. More accurately, they are reasonable, in comparison with other hobbies.

**Yor**

GW is really sexist

**jacetms87**

WAAC is one of, if not the best way to play the game.

Claiming your list is "fluffy" or "casual" is no more than an excuse to take bad units or be a crutch for poor play.

**EvilTim**

AresX8 wrote:
Whole heartedly agree about Ultras. When you look beyond the whole stigma of most people painting Ultras as their first army, you find that they are Space Romans. That's ridiculously awesome. Albeit I'm completely biased as I picked Ultras after researching the rest of the chapters and also am a huge fan of McNeill's novels.

Personally, I think the biggest problem the Ultras have is this:

(Thats Mr Matthew Ward BTW)