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Edited: Keeping OT away, sorry luna.

Go ahead and do it; as long as you don't actually have any face covering hoods, or burning crosses, or their weird red badges that they used to have on the front of their hoods, you'll be fine. Maybe scratch up or put a few splotches on one or two. A cool way to paint gore is to gently flick red paint onto a mini from a distance with an old paintbrush.

General discussion of Genocide, etc, is more properly the purview of the Off Topic forum.

Please confine further discussions to helping Luna, or to productive and polite discussion of the concepts involved here from a gaming perspective. Thanks.

Quick bit of google images:






Images pictured are not mine, they are simply results from google



Seems that white night gobbo's are pretty hard to find.
Found one lot that belong to a CMoN poster, but links wont show anything :(

LunaHound wrote:I was thinking of an alternate paint scheme to start painting my gobbos. My current Orks have been mostly black , or started with black , so im looking for varieties.

Any ideas of simple yet uniformed and straightforward and effective as a horde army would be appreciated.

I was thinking white robed Night Goblin with addition of dioramas within the ranks of other wise static Skull Pass gobbos. So the huts , and the tied up dwarf hostage.

If it was a permanent army i wouldnt think the color would matter. But if i eventually sell them , with half of the customers been Americans ,
will the white robes be seen as KKK attire since the issue has been more sensitive in the states than in Canada?

Well someone somewhere will think that. You should be safe if you don't cover the faces with green stuff. It is not an overtly racist paint job to put on your models so if I were you I wouldn't worry about it. Of course someone will make the argument that it is racist and you should just be prepared to explain to them that it was not your intent and you should be able to point out the differences. For example the night goblins don't have their faces covered with cloth, they also don't have the same pointy hats, and lastly they don't have the KKK symbol on their chest either. Then you can tell them that the only thing they have in common is the white robes and that you did not intend for it to represent the KKK in any way at all.

So you should be ok.


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Tzeentchling9 wrote:It looks fine to me. I can sort of see the connection, but only because you mentioned it. If you had not, I would not have thought of the KKK.

Couldn't agree more.

I think the pictorial references Jackal came up with show that just painting them in white robes doesn't give any direct resemblence to KKK robes.

You'd have to add masks/red badges/torches/other nasty elements to directly evoke it.

Just painting the robes white and keeping the usual orky/goblin iconography should be fine.

So far this looks most promising , as im guessing its dipped?

LunaHound wrote:So far this looks most promising , as im guessing its dipped?

Those look kick-ass! Nothing wrong with them in the slightest. If anyone calls you a racist, kindly point them to the nearest water-closet that they may find a receptacle for the filth that spews forth from their word holes. People are just too far uptight these days.

Our you can point out that they couldn't be racist, as goblins don't have white skin, and aren't of the right religion to be Klansmen.

Mine are painted similar. I use a bleached bone base on the robe then wash with a light brown. I had some of my friends joke a bit about the KKK thing but no one has been offended.

LunaHound wrote:So far this looks most promising , as im guessing its dipped?

I think that something like this would be the best way to avoid the inevitable complaints. I think that the glaring white robes would definitely evoke the wrong reactions, regardless of additional iconography. Don't think of someone looking at the front of the individual model; think of what it will look like to someone walking past or watching you play. All that person will see is hordes of blinding white, peaked hood, robes. To that extent, the first thing that pops into mind is kkk. With a light wash or dipped models, I think it will look great, and still be really easy.

Or you could go the smurf route if you want to be more funny than serious.

Honestly Luna you are just too awesome.

Um, Smurfs and as a side note, i've been playing warhammer for like 8 years and have played one black guy...

Squat Kid wrote:Um, Smurfs and as a side note, i've been playing warhammer for like 8 years and have played one black guy...

Now that you mention it, yeah you're kinda right. I have had many black players in MTG and DandD however when it came to tabletop mini's not so much. We must recruit for diversity!

Out of curiosity, what exactly is wrong with having an army of goblins sporting KKK uniforms, burning crosses, and nooses? Quite honestly, it seems like a rather amusing idea. I think I like Nazi goblins better, but this has potential too.

Laughing Man wrote:Out of curiosity, what exactly is wrong with having an army of goblins sporting KKK uniforms, burning crosses, and nooses? Quite honestly, it seems like a rather amusing idea. I think I like Nazi goblins better, but this has potential too.

Problem is people whine and are too sensitive these days. Little plastic army dudes are in no way going to come to life and begin the lynching.

happydude wrote:

Laughing Man wrote:Out of curiosity, what exactly is wrong with having an army of goblins sporting KKK uniforms, burning crosses, and nooses? Quite honestly, it seems like a rather amusing idea. I think I like Nazi goblins better, but this has potential too.

Problem is people whine and are too sensitive these days. Little plastic army dudes are in no way going to come to life and begin the lynching.

In there case, I prefer to simply quote the bard: "Cry moar."

No its doesnt look KKKish and I doubt that any one would bring it up. As an American i approve this message.

Worglock wrote:

Surtur wrote:People have problems with zombie nazis so go figure that.

People on the internet need something to get mad about.

Because getting mad on the internet is serious.

Those people never actually leave their basement anyway.

Move On.

I am biased in this discussion, because the only white robed Nightgoblin army I have ever seen was by a German boy, who was later expelled from the store for racist remarks. And in Germany KKK is less well known than in USA. So the right wing scene seems to immediately see a similarity. BTW the above Nightgoblins in white coat seem to be quickshaded (light tone I guess).

Laughing Man wrote:Out of curiosity, what exactly is wrong with having an army of goblins sporting KKK uniforms, burning crosses, and nooses? Quite honestly, it seems like a rather amusing idea. I think I like Nazi goblins better, but this has potential too.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/362156.page#2694346

On the surface you might find it amusing for a moment. But I imagine the joke will get old pretty soon. And the real problem comes when people who don't know you well, and can't tell if you are really a bigot or a racist, see the army and begin to draw inferences about you as a person.

Problems further arise if you play with this army in public, say in your local store, and random customers (such as the parents of kids who play there) see the army and begin to wonder if the game in general and/or the players are racists and bigots. This can create a negative impression of the game, the hobby, and even the store itself, to the detriment of the owner and of the local gaming community.

While in pure theory I support the idea that you are free to build your army however you like, in practice I believe that it's important to exercise our freedom of expression with good taste and mature judgment. Just because I am free to yell obscenities in the street in front of schoolchildren, doesn't make that a good way to express my First Amendment rights. It might be my right to do so, but it's still a dumb way to use that right, and would make me look like a jerk and an idiot.

There was a diorama made, according to legend, back when Necromunda was big business about 12 years ago, of a bunch of red redemptionists, painted in white robes, crucifying and burning a ratskin renegade, painted with black skin tones. The legend states that this extremely well painted scene had pride of place in a Games Workshop for several weeks before someone actually had the wit to point out to the manager what it actually represented.

If so, that would be in absolutely terrible taste.

Painting a night goblin's robes white would not be, painting the KKK's symbols on them or setting them up in imitation of that organisation would be.

Anyway, I don`t think white robed goblins would be a problem. Just avoid goblins with yamaka`s

"Yarmulkes".

Also, shouldn't that motivational poster read:
"They see me rollin
I hatin'"

Ha Mannahnin wins. Hmm I thought your name was Manhattan for years...

Thanks.

It's a phonetic misspelling of Mannanan, the Irish sea god, and the name of the Farseer for my first army, when I originally got into the game. My homebrew craftworld uses a mix of classic RT and 2nd ed-era Eldar fluff and prechristian Irish cosmology.

http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20010312062030/http://dakkadakka.com/hostof.htm

Depends on what country you play it in.

Squat Kid wrote:Um, Smurfs and as a side note, i've been playing warhammer for like 8 years and have played one black guy...

I know about a dozen. Get out more.

Do it. If anyone asks- "You want a straw? "what for?" "So you can suck it up"

spireland wrote:Depends on what country you play it in.

it would be fine up here. Canadians tend not to be as anal as our brothers in the south.