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Wardragoon wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

Dastardly Dave wrote:I like the idea Avatar. Very Crystal maze. If you can manage all four rooms simultaneously that might stop Wardragons problem from happening.

That was the plan.

We use skype, we also use live maps.

Its very doable for me to be managing 4-5 simultaneously... its called multi-skilling and looks awesome on a resume, especially if you are a male

Ohhh, well if its skype its a different story, if one person manages to finish early, he can just watch tv and hypothetically not offend anyone.

Perhaps if you have 4 players and only 3 exits after the puzzle is finished it will keep them from being bored?

snurl wrote:

Wardragoon wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

Dastardly Dave wrote:I like the idea Avatar. Very Crystal maze. If you can manage all four rooms simultaneously that might stop Wardragons problem from happening.

That was the plan.

We use skype, we also use live maps.

Its very doable for me to be managing 4-5 simultaneously... its called multi-skilling and looks awesome on a resume, especially if you are a male

Ohhh, well if its skype its a different story, if one person manages to finish early, he can just watch tv and hypothetically not offend anyone.

Perhaps if you have 4 players and only 3 exits after the puzzle is finished it will keep them from being bored?

Please explain.

AvatarForm wrote:

snurl wrote:

Wardragoon wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

Dastardly Dave wrote:I like the idea Avatar. Very Crystal maze. If you can manage all four rooms simultaneously that might stop Wardragons problem from happening.

That was the plan.

We use skype, we also use live maps.

Its very doable for me to be managing 4-5 simultaneously... its called multi-skilling and looks awesome on a resume, especially if you are a male

Ohhh, well if its skype its a different story, if one person manages to finish early, he can just watch tv and hypothetically not offend anyone.

Perhaps if you have 4 players and only 3 exits after the puzzle is finished it will keep them from being bored?

Please explain.

1 man gets left out, so it puts pressure on all the players to get done before the others.

Wardragoon wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

snurl wrote:

Wardragoon wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

Dastardly Dave wrote:I like the idea Avatar. Very Crystal maze. If you can manage all four rooms simultaneously that might stop Wardragons problem from happening.

That was the plan.

We use skype, we also use live maps.

Its very doable for me to be managing 4-5 simultaneously... its called multi-skilling and looks awesome on a resume, especially if you are a male

Ohhh, well if its skype its a different story, if one person manages to finish early, he can just watch tv and hypothetically not offend anyone.

Perhaps if you have 4 players and only 3 exits after the puzzle is finished it will keep them from being bored?

Please explain.

1 man gets left out, so it puts pressure on all the players to get done before the others.

This doesnt make sense.

These are heroes of a forgotten age who defeated the greatest evils of the time together.

Why would they suddenly become selfish and attempt to leave one of their own behind?

AvatarForm wrote:

Wardragoon wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

snurl wrote:

Wardragoon wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

Dastardly Dave wrote:I like the idea Avatar. Very Crystal maze. If you can manage all four rooms simultaneously that might stop Wardragons problem from happening.

That was the plan.

We use skype, we also use live maps.

Its very doable for me to be managing 4-5 simultaneously... its called multi-skilling and looks awesome on a resume, especially if you are a male

Ohhh, well if its skype its a different story, if one person manages to finish early, he can just watch tv and hypothetically not offend anyone.

Perhaps if you have 4 players and only 3 exits after the puzzle is finished it will keep them from being bored?

Please explain.

1 man gets left out, so it puts pressure on all the players to get done before the others.

This doesnt make sense.

These are heroes of a forgotten age who defeated the greatest evils of the time together.

Why would they suddenly become selfish and attempt to leave one of their own behind?

It's a moral quandary for the party, so it makes for some intense RPing, since they are old friends it brings the question to the party of: who do we leave behind, how do we get the last party member out etc.

Wardragoon wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

Wardragoon wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

snurl wrote:

Wardragoon wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

Dastardly Dave wrote:I like the idea Avatar. Very Crystal maze. If you can manage all four rooms simultaneously that might stop Wardragons problem from happening.

That was the plan.

We use skype, we also use live maps.

Its very doable for me to be managing 4-5 simultaneously... its called multi-skilling and looks awesome on a resume, especially if you are a male

Ohhh, well if its skype its a different story, if one person manages to finish early, he can just watch tv and hypothetically not offend anyone.

Perhaps if you have 4 players and only 3 exits after the puzzle is finished it will keep them from being bored?

Please explain.

1 man gets left out, so it puts pressure on all the players to get done before the others.

This doesnt make sense.

These are heroes of a forgotten age who defeated the greatest evils of the time together.

Why would they suddenly become selfish and attempt to leave one of their own behind?

It's a moral quandary for the party, so it makes for some intense RPing, since they are old friends it brings the question to the party of: who do we leave behind, how do we get the last party member out etc.

This I will give some serious thought... I had planned a "lesser of 2 evils" scenario in order to test our Paladin and Cleric...

AvatarForm wrote:

Wardragoon wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

Wardragoon wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

snurl wrote:

Wardragoon wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

Dastardly Dave wrote:I like the idea Avatar. Very Crystal maze. If you can manage all four rooms simultaneously that might stop Wardragons problem from happening.

That was the plan.

We use skype, we also use live maps.

Its very doable for me to be managing 4-5 simultaneously... its called multi-skilling and looks awesome on a resume, especially if you are a male

Ohhh, well if its skype its a different story, if one person manages to finish early, he can just watch tv and hypothetically not offend anyone.

Perhaps if you have 4 players and only 3 exits after the puzzle is finished it will keep them from being bored?

Please explain.

1 man gets left out, so it puts pressure on all the players to get done before the others.

This doesnt make sense.

These are heroes of a forgotten age who defeated the greatest evils of the time together.

Why would they suddenly become selfish and attempt to leave one of their own behind?

It's a moral quandary for the party, so it makes for some intense RPing, since they are old friends it brings the question to the party of: who do we leave behind, how do we get the last party member out etc.

This I will give some serious thought... I had planned a "lesser of 2 evils" scenario in order to test our Paladin and Cleric...

Yes, it's deviate. I used something very like it once for a season-ender.
There are ways to get everyone out safely, but if you put a time limit on it (rising Lava) they may not think of them in time.

Another alternative for the above is to give them two doors. one will lead them to their destination in a short amount of time, with little danger, but they must leave somebody behind. the other, right next to the first ([1][2]), leads to a much longer journey, fraught with danger. the space between them is so small the application of a portable ram would break right through it.

Another way to challenge PCs is to take them out of there comfort zones, in my RT campaign at the moment the party is exploring a wrecked submarine for information on a NPC they're tracking. Its as you can imagine, underwater! Which means certain things don't work, moving about is harder, not to mention they're on a death world that's 70% water, so they'll be watching out for a few jungle obstacles/gribblies then it's diving time which will yeild some deep sea gribblies as well as the constant threat of if their suits are punctured they're out unless they surface in time. My idea for this was have them be stalked by a massive sea creature that swallows a couple of them, the PCs then have to kill it from the inside while the rest continue with the mission unsure of their outcome.

As for choices, mine are pretty basic (although i have snagged a few good ideas from this thread), such as, you see the figure of a man approaching through the gloom, he appears to be holding his gun up as he jogs along. So it's shoot first or be shot first, but if they shoot first it may have just been old man wilson coming to warn them about pressing danger! Or maybe it's said pressing danger.

"Suddenly, one of the warriors notices a large spider upon the back of the party leader! He raises his arm and swings - but has forgotten he is still holding his blade!"

Goddard wrote:"Suddenly, one of the warriors notices a large spider upon the back of the party leader! He raises his arm and swings - but has forgotten he is still holding his blade!"

do it straight after combat and see who puts their weapon away before swinging, genius

In all seriousness, one method I plan on using in an upcoming game is to have some means of escape after the 'final battle', but there is not enough room for all, or only so much magic left in the runes to teleport everyone but one.

They will either discuss who should stay, or start scrambling for the exit.

Present them with overly obvious situations that aren't as obvious and clear cut as they turn out to be. Happened to us several times now. We were presented with a ticking timer on a space station so got the heck out, encountering a daemon along the way. Turns out the timer wasn't hooked up to a bomb. Two sessions later we come across what we thought were several rebel squadrons of escorts fighting it out with three Imperial cruisers, with the Imperials losing. We picked up an escaping Imperial shuttle and jumped out of the system. Contents of the shuttle: four trigger happy Navy officers and two Chaos sworn rogue psykers. Cue us going back to the system and apologizing to the "rebels" for mistaking them for the enemy.

Failing that, swamp them with hordes of some form of insignificant foe.