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Yes it would, IF he had a human digestive system.

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Melissia wrote:Yes it would, IF he had a human digestive system.


How does an ork absorb waters and nutrients from food without intestines?
   
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Cheesecat wrote:
Melissia wrote:Yes it would, IF he had a human digestive system.


How does an ork absorb waters and nutrients from food without intestines?
There is a wide variety of digestive systems in our world. Several of them I have already had the privilege to disect myself...

If what passes as the Ork's "blood" (insofar as we can actually call it that) is full of fungus-- and it is-- it could very well be that the fungus itself is capable of breaking down nutrients in an emergency. This is part of their multiple redundant organs thing that I mentioned numerous times before.

You're really too stuck on the human biology. Orks aren't human. Orks aren't even terrestrial. They're alien in just about every way imaginable to us.

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Melissia wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
Melissia wrote:Yes it would, IF he had a human digestive system.


How does an ork absorb waters and nutrients from food without intestines?
There is a wide variety of digestive systems in our world. Several of them I have already had the privilege to disect myself...

If what passes as the Ork's "blood" (insofar as we can actually call it that) is full of fungus-- and it is-- it could very well be that the fungus itself is capable of breaking down nutrients in an emergency. This is part of their multiple redundant organs thing that I mentioned numerous times before.

You're really too stuck on the human biology. Orks aren't human. Orks aren't even terrestrial. They're alien in just about every way imaginable to us.


It's not so much as being too stuck to human anatomy (the reason I make most of my comparisons to them is because it's what I'm most familiar with in biology at this moment and time), but more of a need for an

actually plausible and logical way to have that much damage to the gut and live (which you provided thank-you very much ). Because someone saying they're "alien" just seems like a cop-out to me but if

provided with good support I'll agree to or at least see why they defended that argument. Either way you thoroughly explained how an Ork can survive a gut wound that would kill a human, and answered all the

"why's" of the situation, so our debate here is done, good on you.

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I'm not saying they're aliens, but that they're alien-- "Unfamiliar and disturbing or distasteful"

In the case of Orkoid biology, probably all three.

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Though they are Alien as well. Don't let that confuse you.

I think maybe, for those who are still confused about the whole 'alien biology' thing, think about Vulcans in Star Trek. They have two hearts and green blood. Now I don't quite know how the blood thing works (Sulfur based?) but with the second heart, if they get stabbed in the chest, a little to the left of the sternum, well, it may do absolutely nothing. Either neither heart is even there... (two hearts means they're probably both smaller, and less 'centralized' in the body) or one heart is damaged, but the other keeps going, doing the work of both, and the Vulcan is fine. Bleeding heavily, but relatively fine, compared to what a human would look like in that situation (i.e. dead).

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Psienesis wrote:Orks aren't animals... or invertebrates. They're a animal-plant-hybrid specifically built to wage war........Being a fungus.


This has got the stop, fungus are not plants, they are completely different species

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As for fantasy being in the 40k world as another planet, even if that is so, it could be in an entirely different galaxy or even universe. It could be happening millions of years before the imperium of man, or after its gone. Theres just no way of knowing.


There is a way, GW have said that the 2 universes are completely seperate, they did toy with the idea that fantasy was in the 40k universe with hints that Sigmar was a primarch, but they have completely seperated the 2.

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...urrrr... I dunno

BluntmanDC wrote:
Psienesis wrote:Orks aren't animals... or invertebrates. They're a animal-plant-hybrid specifically built to wage war........Being a fungus.


This has got the stop, fungus are not plants, they are completely different species


Also, they are a HYBRID. There is standard DNA in an orkish cell, ergo it's perfectly fine to call an ork an animal.

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Right, they really don't fit the definition of plant anyway. Sure they probably photosynthesize, and parts of their bodies have cell walls, but they are motile and intelligent creatures, warm-blooded ones to boot (at least more than likely warm blooded at any rate give their constant activity regardless of climate).

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...urrrr... I dunno

Melissia wrote:Right, they really don't fit the definition of plant anyway. Sure they probably photosynthesize, and parts of their bodies have cell walls, but they are motile and intelligent creatures, warm-blooded ones to boot (at least more than likely warm blooded at any rate give their constant activity regardless of climate).


Photosynthesis would go some way to explaining how they're able to grow so large within such a short length of time, I suppose. However, the green skin may not be due to the presence of chlorophyll, but just a side effect of algal and fungal DNA strains. Fungi in general don't photosynthesise, after all. At least, I don't recall them doing so...

Melissia wrote:Stopping power IS a deterrent. The bigger a hole you put in them the more deterred they are.

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They grow large because Gork & Mork determine who is to rule what Orks based on their size. The bigger an Ork is, the more In Charge he is. This is fundamentally recognized by all Orks, which establishes their heirarchal war-band societies. The only problems arise when two Bosses are the same size, and so must fight to see who's the biggest Ork dere is. of course, the victor from these squabbles grows larger, as a sign of his victory.

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...urrrr... I dunno

Psienesis wrote:They grow large because Gork & Mork determine who is to rule what Orks based on their size. The bigger an Ork is, the more In Charge he is. This is fundamentally recognized by all Orks, which establishes their heirarchal war-band societies. The only problems arise when two Bosses are the same size, and so must fight to see who's the biggest Ork dere is. of course, the victor from these squabbles grows larger, as a sign of his victory.


Well, yeah, but growth requires our old friends Respiration and Protein Synthesis. Orks have to get the base materials from somewhere.

Melissia wrote:Stopping power IS a deterrent. The bigger a hole you put in them the more deterred they are.

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I think it actually involves nothing except the divine intervention of Gork & Mork. Everything else is secondary.

Orks survive in the vacuum of space. Respiration is an option to them.

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Oh, I definitely think it has a biological aspect to it. After all, they're a designed race.

And they probably do photosynthesize, because they can survive for extended periods in space. This would allow them to create and break down their own sugars for a limited time simply using the CO2 in their blood and food in their bellies (or equivalent organ), which would then leave O2 in their blood to be utilized in cellular respiration as well as sugars for energy.

Assuming it's even O2 that they use to begin with.

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