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LunaHound wrote:

WarOne wrote:Perhaps being more forthcoming and direct in regards to the origin of the model (keeping the original model sculptor anonymous) would of probably been more beneficial.

Being indirect and roundabout in presenting the model made people view this model in other ways than what you intended them to see it as.

I gave the reason for it , if you find it to be unsatisfactory , please give a solution to what you would have done differently.

"Hello DakkaDakka! Now not sure if this is the right place for it, but I want to bring something to you guys and gals who love the following:

Warhammer and fantasy!
Beautiful Large Scale Models!

Insert Pictures.

Pretty, isn't it?

Now as of this time, this is a unique model that was under wraps until now. The sculptor I have been working with was gracious enough for me to unveil his/her work up until this point What I am looking for is feedback for this model. Namely:

Critique
What one would pay for such a model.

Keep in mind, Model is *insert size*, is made of *insert material*, and took *insert manpower hours* to achieve. The final product is of course what I have posted.

Answers I get will help me be able to possibly establish a relationship with the sculptor in bringing not only production of this model around to the masses, but also perhaps help get other future projects off the ground. I'm looking foward to working with the community on feedback and helping to promote such a talented individual!

So please fire away at what you think of this wonderful work and suggestions for a retail price people would be willing to pay!

Thanks in advance! "

Hello,
I woould say around 150 or so, that said it is due to limited use. Mostly it would be simallar to one of the japanese resin statues I do for people, however it is very cool, and the beast is definaly Monster Hunter material.

Regards,
Carl

LunaHound wrote:

WarOne wrote:Perhaps being more forthcoming and direct in regards to the origin of the model (keeping the original model sculptor anonymous) would of probably been more beneficial.

Being indirect and roundabout in presenting the model made people view this model in other ways than what you intended them to see it as.

I gave the reason for it , if you find it to be unsatisfactory , please give a solution to what you would have done differently.

WarOne provided your solution in his quoted response.

AvatarForm wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

WarOne wrote:Perhaps being more forthcoming and direct in regards to the origin of the model (keeping the original model sculptor anonymous) would of probably been more beneficial.

Being indirect and roundabout in presenting the model made people view this model in other ways than what you intended them to see it as.

I gave the reason for it , if you find it to be unsatisfactory , please give a solution to what you would have done differently.

WarOne provided your solution in his quoted response.

Thats not a solution , but thanks for re quoting it again! I already saw his post , its the very first post of page 4

LunaHound wrote:Thats not a solution

I'll try and put it in some other form of words.

The solution would of been to be plain and direct. You have this miniature that was made. You want to see what people would pay for it. You are not going to reveal the person who did it. You state it was original.

Now it won't stop derps who cannot read statements like "This model is original and not a copy or duplicate of another's work." Some people headbutt walls at high speeds for a living and will still say "this is a duplicate."

The worst thing that happened was that someone did have the information on hand concerning who made it plus revelant links. That was what started the whole snowball. If you truly wanted to hide this work until now, having no public internet footprint would of been the best way to go along with being a bit more forthcoming.

WarOne wrote:I'll try and put it in some other form of words.

First of all , cut the witch hunt stuff , and whats the facepalm for?

The solution would of been to be plain and direct. You have this miniature that was made. You want to see what people would pay for it. You are not going to reveal the person who did it. You state it was original.

I want to see what price would people pay for a sculpt that size , quality. It has NOTHING to do with me wanting to sell it. Original wise , http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110108224545AAP4oRw

Now it won't stop derps who cannot read statements like "This model is original and not a copy or duplicate of another's work." Some people headbutt walls at high speeds for a living and will still say "this is a duplicate."

Your point is what? i already stated the artist has his sculptures been stolen recasts. The last thing i want is for people to buy from recasters which wont help the original sculptor at all.

The worst thing that happened was that someone did have the information on hand concerning who made it plus revelant links. That was what started the whole snowball.

Did you not read? IM the one that gave the source to neconlis , granted hes the one that posted it into dakka dakka. But i was fully aware of it WILL happen as i mentioned ,
the requesting picture was named TW3 ( how i labelled it on dakka dakka ) I knew it was someone from dakka wanting to know.

If you truly wanted to hide this work until now, having no public internet footprint would of been the best way to go along with being a bit more forthcoming.

I already explained earlier , i wont be able to compete with large companies if they decide to hire the sculptor. Will i be happy if the sculptor end up commissioning some warhammer sculpt for me?
Of course. Can i stop others from paying him MORE to sculpt for them? Nope!

Face it , im not a re-caster or a thief of any kind , and your witch hunt will get no where.

It does not appear that there is any witch hunt happening here. The original post was a bit scanty with information, and a couple of people got excessively suspicious and made inappropriate accusations. Luna, you solicited feedback on why, and what else you could have done differently. If people answer that question, it doesn't mean they're accusing you of anything. If you want to have that discussion, keep it friendly. If you don't want to have that discussion, then don't solicit it.

Let's keep it friendly, folks.

I feel like there is just too much, like they tried to throw in every single thing to make it the best out there that is uber powerful and ALL wargamers should bow before it or something.

The detail is nice though.

Please don't disregard Moderator warnings. -Mannahnin

terribletrygon wrote:Please don't disregard...

Ermm....and your post is not really helping is it?

don't sweat it luna. it seems pretty clear that you're not up to shenanigans.

that said, a model that size and of that level of detail, compared strictly to GW stuff should sell for some 250 bucks.

however, since most of us are GW gamers and wouldn't have much/any use for it since it's too big for our game system (or so it appears), it kind of devalues it since many of us buy models to put them on the table, not the trophy rack.

if it was around bloodthirster size, and a good sculpt, i could see paying 100 for it. it is a beautiful model and the sculptor clearly is an individual with considerable talent, and painting a model with that level of detail would be a great deal of fun and a huge centrepiece for a chaos/deamon army.

So in this scenario, who would be designing the models you intend to sell, LunaHound?

terribletrygon wrote:Please don't disregard...

Care to explain what you are talking about?

What hole am i digging? and what exactly is the issue again?

If you can , clearly state your accusation loud and clear. If you dont, then you know what it is? its trololololling

Let this thread show the amount of trolling people can get away with. Im just glad you are the obvious one.

Not sure if this is an option for you:

If making the mould doesn't cost too much, start selling single miniatures on ebay with no fixed price and let the market decide. Maybe you can also start a discussion on the Troll Forged forum.

LunaHound wrote:

The worst thing that happened was that someone did have the information on hand concerning who made it plus revelant links. That was what started the whole snowball.

IM the one that gave the source to neconlis , granted hes the one that posted it into dakka dakka. But i was fully aware of it WILL happen as i mentioned ,
the requesting picture was named TW3 ( how i labelled it on dakka dakka ) I knew it was someone from dakka wanting to know.

This here I think was my biggest concern regarding how the responses evolved after the thread was made. As Mannahnin pointed out, there was a disconnect with the posters who thought the models were recasts/looked fishy in part due to how the thread was started. We now know that the information was made public to others, but because there was nothing on DakkaDakka that related who was the original creator, it led others to believe that the piece you posted up on DakkaDakka was amiss in some way.

WarOne wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

The worst thing that happened was that someone did have the information on hand concerning who made it plus revelant links. That was what started the whole snowball.

IM the one that gave the source to neconlis , granted hes the one that posted it into dakka dakka. But i was fully aware of it WILL happen as i mentioned ,
the requesting picture was named TW3 ( how i labelled it on dakka dakka ) I knew it was someone from dakka wanting to know.

This here I think was my biggest concern regarding how the responses evolved after the thread was made. As Mannahnin pointed out, there was a disconnect with the posters who thought the models were recasts/looked fishy in part due to how the thread was started. We now know that the information was made public to others, but because there was nothing on DakkaDakka that related who was the original creator, it led others to believe that the piece you posted up on DakkaDakka was amiss in some way.

What exactly do you want from me ?

Would it be out of place to offer a dramatic re-enactment of the side discussion in this thread between WarOne and LunaHound?

I'd like to call it, "I'm sorry I though you were the axe murderer", a play in one part.

LunaHound: "How much would people want to pay for these fine blood red axes?"
WarOne: "That blood red looks suspiciously like blood. Where'd you get your paint?"
LunaHound: "Why do you want to know about my paint?"
WarOne: "OMG, it's human blood!"
LunaHound: "OMG!!!"
WarOne: "Someone else told me it was just paint."
LunaHound: "OMG!!!!"
WarOne: "If you'd let me explain for a minute...."
LunaHound: "What more do you want from me!?!? I'm not a murderer!!"
WarOne: "Look, your red looked a little suspicious..."
[Exchange continues in a similar manner]
Audience: "..."

An incredibly useful thing for both you and WarOne to write would be, "Oh, terribly sorry for the misunderstanding," and let the matter drop.

solkan wrote: LunaHound: "What more do you want from me!?!? I'm not a murderer!!"

I like the dramatic effect you added solkan , As cute as an re-enactment would be , i rather the thread not go OT like it has been the last 2 pages lol?

I also would rather have warone himself just tell me what he wants from me? So we dont drag this to page 10 ?
I mean i dont think he needs others speaking for him not to mention it could add more confusion and understanding?

Late to the party.

It's nicely detailed and very well sculpted. At the same time, it puts 'busy' GW models to shame. Centaur body, six arms with all different weapons, wings and a head growing out of his crotch.

No... too much gak going on with that model. I'd expect it to be around the $100-$150 mark, but I wouldn't get one.

solkan wrote:An incredibly useful thing for both you and WarOne to write would be, "Oh, terribly sorry for the misunderstanding," and let the matter drop.

A solid point solkan.

I was trying to do what highlight the situation and try and give a resolution and understanding to what happened. I did not want for Lunahound to be offended or upset by my posts.

I apologize if I hurt you with these posts.

Chaos dark Eldar, its a head turner, Id pay £100 no problem. Thats £sterling

If it had some 40K friendly arms (in any sense of the word), I'd certainly consider getting one for 200USD or less. Both for 40K and Dark Heresy. But it would need more SF & less Fantasy.

Beautiful sculpt.

Looks like what I imagine Magtheridon would look like, if WoW had up to date graphics.

Paint it red and I could well see use for it as a 'Thirster.