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Redbeard wrote:

Oh right, that guy again.

At some point, you just gotta count the championships. On paper, Dan Marino may have been better than Joe Montana, but Montana got the rings. Fulgrim took down more other primarchs than anyone else (daemon-enfused or not)

I just finished Fulgrim by Graham Mcneill today, im slowly working through the HH books, so Im ready for this debate!

Fulgrim! haha!

Seriously, you haven't read the book right? You were correct about killing the wraithlord, and that WAS cool, and it was Fulgrim. So he wasnt a total piss ant, but after reading the first 5 books of the HH its impossible to like the guy! He wears make up and dresses like a girl, he is weak. He had no self control or willpower, he couldn't deny the lure of the whispering chaos Gods. In my eyes, that makes the man a weakling, he stared into the abyss and he walked on over it. If you get tempted and you resist your a strong man, Fulgrim wasn't that.

And after the death of Ferrus, he sobs and cries like a little girl, and begs the demon to take him into oblivion (instead of simplying commiting suicide like a sensible fella) and "makes the worst decision he could ever make" as his puny soul is dragged into a tiny corner of his essence, and is possessed utterly by a demon, who then goes and tosses Horus Ferrus Manus's head.

He then mocks Horus, tells him HE IS NO LONGER SPEAKING TO FULGRIM, because Fulgrim is suffering inside him, and he will keep him there in torment because it amuses him. And Horus swears silently to kill him, to release his brother from his suffering.

Ergo, several points for you.

1. Fulgrim is no more, and it wasnt him that killed anyone of note, as stated by the thing that now wears Fulgrims skin.

2. Fulgrim was a weak willed fool with no backbone or will power.

3. He wears perfume and make up and looked like a girl.

I think thats game set and match, im off to read the next book!

I just know, that if my planet has to negotiate with any of the primarchs, Angron would be the one I would want to avoid

If my own personal legion had to fight off another, the Lion or Guilliman would be the last person I'd want to face.

If my personal command squad had to take on a primarch's command squad (and the primarch), Russ would be the last primarch I'd want to face.

So in the end, Russ is the Daddy of them all (and the fluff really does seem to back that up)

Lobukia wrote:I just know, that if my planet has to negotiate with any of the primarchs, Angron would be the one I would want to avoid

If my own personal legion had to fight off another, the Lion or Guilliman would be the last person I'd want to face.

If my personal command squad had to take on a primarch's command squad (and the primarch), Russ would be the last primarch I'd want to face.

So in the end, Russ is the Daddy of them all (and the fluff really does seem to back that up)

I suppose thats a good way of looking at it, I wouldn't like to fight Angron or Russ personally, but I wouldn't want a war with Gulliman the most.

mattyrm wrote:

Ergo, several points for you.

1. Fulgrim is no more, and it wasnt him that killed anyone of note, as stated by the thing that now wears Fulgrims skin.

2. Fulgrim was a weak willed fool with no backbone or will power.

3. He wears perfume and make up and looked like a girl.

I think thats game set and match, im off to read the next book!

So true. You gazed upon my very thoughts.

He sure had a purty mouth though.

i think its sanguinius, yeah he was almost killed by a bloodthirstier and was killed by horus but he is BADASS!!!!!!!

 purplefood wrote:
I'm not sure who says it first but there are several mentions in Prospero Burns that it wasn't the first time the Wolves had fought other Astartes...

Really? Just re-read that book and didn't see any. Could you give me the page?


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 mattyrm wrote:

Redbeard wrote:

Oh right, that guy again.

At some point, you just gotta count the championships. On paper, Dan Marino may have been better than Joe Montana, but Montana got the rings. Fulgrim took down more other primarchs than anyone else (daemon-enfused or not)

I just finished Fulgrim by Graham Mcneill today, im slowly working through the HH books, so Im ready for this debate!

Fulgrim! haha!

Seriously, you haven't read the book right?You were correct about killing the wraithlord, and that WAS cool , and it was Fulgrim. So he wasnt a total piss ant, but after reading the first 5 books of the HH its impossible to like the guy! He wears make up and dresses like a girl, he is weak. He had no self control or willpower, he couldn't deny the lure of the whispering chaos Gods. In my eyes, that makes the man a weakling, he stared into the abyss and he walked on over it. If you get tempted and you resist your a strong man, Fulgrim wasn't that.

And after the death of Ferrus, he sobs and cries like a little girl, and begs the demon to take him into oblivion (instead of simplying commiting suicide like a sensible fella) and "makes the worst decision he could ever make" as his puny soul is dragged into a tiny corner of his essence, and is possessed utterly by a demon, who then goes and tosses Horus Ferrus Manus's head.

He then mocks Horus, tells him HE IS NO LONGER SPEAKING TO FULGRIM, because Fulgrim is suffering inside him, and he will keep him there in torment because it amuses him. And Horus swears silently to kill him, to release his brother from his suffering.

Ergo, several points for you.

1. Fulgrim is no more, and it wasnt him that killed anyone of note, as stated by the thing that now wears Fulgrims skin.

2. Fulgrim was a weak willed fool with no backbone or will power.

3. He wears perfume and make up and looked like a girl.

I think thats game set and match, im off to read the next book!

To say something on the green bit...
Fulgrim took down a wraithlord??? I LAUGH AT HIS FACE
Magnus took down a stompa and then another titan!


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Also fulgrim was killed by Perturabo in Angel Exterminatus

Alpharius is slightly taller than some marines

Sources
Deliverance lost
Legion
Hunters moon
Serpent beneath

Tis a fact

Has anyone quipped 'The Emperor', as the answer to this thread title yet? If not, let me be the first

My answer would be 'Mortarion', just because that would then amusingly imply that Draigo is more of a bad-ass than all of them.

Nobody going to say Alpharius Omegron?

While the youngest of the Primarchs in terms of battle experience, I'd like to see even Russ face down two other Primarchs /at the same time/.

But then again I fangirl over Alpha Legion so..

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