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You sure thats not the time continuum transfuntioner?

thats a "Dude Wheres My Car?" reference...

For the Emperor! ... kekeke

That's the thing about the Legion, you see...

...The Legion is...legion!

The legion is legion...

WE are legion.

Alpharius is legion.

i think you guys just need to hop on across over to the Imperiums camp, and we can all fight chaos together!

I did not sign off on the creation of those wannabe XX Legion troops in DOW.

One thing bugged me while reading Legion: Wouldn't a more reasonable third option for the Alpha Legion have been to assassinate Horus and/or destroy the Luna Wolves before the Heresy kicked off? At the point the novel ends it is 'too late' in the sense that Horus is already/well on his way to being possessed, but there is still a few years of time to go before he actually outright rebels, no? Surely of all the legions, the one in the best position to actually accomplish something like this would have been the secretive and stealthy Alpha Legion. As I understood it, both Option 1 and Option 2 and their relevant outcomes were only really applicable because the Heresy took place in the first place, as in: killing Horus early would circumvent the conditions that would ultimately bring Chaos to ultimate power.

As for the Thousand Sons and Leman Russ, etc. I will point out that entire situation also puts Magnus at blame as well. If you read Prospero Burns, Leman Russ attempted to give Magnus every possible opportunity to surrender so that the bloodshed and fighting could be avoided, even after Horus ordered him to attack. Magnus/the Thousand Sons didn't respond, which prompted the attack in the first place.

Sure does smell like dead traitor primarch up in here.

...or does it?

AgeOfEgos wrote:Sure does smell like dead traitor primarch up in here.

Shush! Go back to being frozen with no possible hope of surviving as more than a lame piece of furniture

i want alpha legion to go back to imperium, but have to go on a crusade where they crusade 1 year for every year they were acting as "traitors". So once GW advances the plot along long enough that they are back from their crusade, the emperor will be reborn and really powerful again, plus it will be the year 15000 in real life!


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chaos0xomega wrote:As for the Thousand Sons and Leman Russ, etc. I will point out that entire situation also puts Magnus at blame as well. If you read Prospero Burns, Leman Russ attempted to give Magnus every possible opportunity to surrender so that the bloodshed and fighting could be avoided, even after Horus ordered him to attack. Magnus/the Thousand Sons didn't respond, which prompted the attack in the first place.

That's bogus. "Every possible opportunity" meaning a private request via Kasper Howser . If he truly wanted to give him an opportunity, he would have made a public announcement about it, but he probably was afraid his warriors would make fun of him over it or some such macho bullcrap. The Wolves didn't hesitate to start bombarding the crap out of the planet and slaughtering everything in sight when they arrived to see the defenses down and the way to the planet wide open.

dajobe wrote:i want alpha legion to go back to imperium, but have to go on a crusade where they crusade 1 year for every year they were acting as "traitors".

It's considered impolite to survive a suicide mission.

well cross that bridge when it comes

Avatar 720 wrote:AFAIK, the Alpha Legion don't devote themselves to one God above all others like WE, DG, TS and EC, nor do they have a history of summoning daemons like WB or trapping daemons like IW did to create the Defiler, nor are they led by a Chaos Ascendant spearheading strikes against the IoM from within the EoT.

Could you use a few more acronyms please, way to many actual words to read there.


10,000 years is a long time. Who knows what their true loyalty is anymore. I do believe they were loyal through the Heresy though. But now, it's anyone's guess.

The Alpha Legion fell to Chaos.

The Alpha Legion is loyal to the Emperor.

Both of these statements are true.

Noisy_Marine wrote:The Alpha Legion fell to Chaos.

The Alpha Legion is loyal to the Emperor.

Both of these statements are true.

As it should be...

dajobe wrote:well cross that bridge when it comes

Cross it? Or infiltrate the maintenance crew, slowly sabotage its integrity, draw one target onto the bridge and collapse the whole thing on another target? Also, ninjas.

dajobe wrote:i want alpha legion to go back to imperium, but have to go on a crusade where they crusade 1 year for every year they were acting as "traitors". So once GW advances the plot along long enough that they are back from their crusade, the emperor will be reborn and really powerful again, plus it will be the year 15000 in real life!


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GW is now set for the next 13000 years!


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And therefore completely destroy the setting we all love.
After all, a strong Imperium is no longer a grimdark one and the Emprah serves better as a vegetable than a Marty Stu
Regarding that Alpha Legion repenting thingy you seem to like, Arkos the Faithless would like to have a word with you...
Just watch out for his toothpick, he likes to stick it into loyalists

Omegus wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:As for the Thousand Sons and Leman Russ, etc. I will point out that entire situation also puts Magnus at blame as well. If you read Prospero Burns, Leman Russ attempted to give Magnus every possible opportunity to surrender so that the bloodshed and fighting could be avoided, even after Horus ordered him to attack. Magnus/the Thousand Sons didn't respond, which prompted the attack in the first place.

That's bogus. "Every possible opportunity" meaning a private request via Kasper Howser

Spoiler:

who we later find out was not planted by Magnus, but rather daemons/Horus? All Russ did was give Horus something to laugh about

. If he truly wanted to give him an opportunity, he would have made a public announcement about it, but he probably was afraid his warriors would make fun of him over it or some such macho bullcrap. The Wolves didn't hesitate to start bombarding the crap out of the planet and slaughtering everything in sight when they arrived to see the defenses down and the way to the planet wide open.

Didn't Russ directly communicate psychically (or attempt to) or something with Magnus as the Space Wolves fleet approached/sat in orbit around Prospero. I swear there was a part of the book where I thought to myself, why didn't Magnus respond? And it didn't involve Kaspar Howserto my knowledge

Alpha Legion will burn! Wrapped by chaos no matter how well first intentions!

chaos0xomega wrote:Didn't Russ directly communicate psychically (or attempt to) or something with Magnus as the Space Wolves fleet approached/sat in orbit around Prospero. I swear there was a part of the book where I thought to myself, why didn't Magnus respond? And it didn't involve Kaspar Howserto my knowledge

The only psychic abilities Russ displays is the ability to yell really loud and disrupt other psykers.

Byte wrote:Alpha Legion will burn! Wrapped by chaos no matter how well first intentions!

The same could be said of many Inquisitors.

Didn't Russ directly communicate psychically (or attempt to) or something with Magnus as the Space Wolves fleet approached/sat in orbit around Prospero. I swear there was a part of the book where I thought to myself, why didn't Magnus respond? And it didn't involve Kaspar Howserto my knowledge

Omegus wrote:

dajobe wrote:well cross that bridge when it comes

Cross it? Or infiltrate the maintenance crew, slowly sabotage its integrity, draw one target onto the bridge and collapse the whole thing on another target? Also, ninjas.

lol, that is a good idea, and KingDeath, you could still make it grimdark by giving the emperor herpes or something...

DarknessEternal wrote:
It's considered impolite to survive a suicide mission.

A sig-worthy statement if there ever was one - well said, well said indeed!

Noisy_Marine wrote:The Alpha Legion fell to Chaos.

The Alpha Legion is loyal to the Emperor.

Both of these statements are true.

Or are both statements false?

The first is questionable, since they infiltrated Chaos more than fell. The second is questionable, since they are loyal to Alpharius Omegon. The question is, is he/ are they loyal to the Emperor?

Pre-LEGION, "For the Emperor!" was an ironic shout meant to confuse the enemy.

Post-LEGION... who the hell knows?!?

DarknessEternal wrote:

dajobe wrote:i want alpha legion to go back to imperium, but have to go on a crusade where they crusade 1 year for every year they were acting as "traitors".

It's considered impolite to survive a suicide mission.

Mind if I put this in my sig?