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Everyone touched by the Bloodtide is "instantly corrupted", going completely ape, slaughtering and sacrificing everyone in sight. Some Sisters resist the effects of the Bloodtide and continue on their fighting. Grey Knights show up, and "needing a talisman of purity to protect against the Bloodtide's taint" they kill the sisters, mix their blood with oil, and anoint all of their gear. Then they effortlessly stride through the Bloodtide "without risk of corruption" and wtfpwn the Khorne daemon.
As pointed out earlier, you could say that this has always been the case, but we were just told they were incorruptible because they've known of such rituals to prevent falling to Chaos all along.
If Sisters could resist the taint, I'm sure even the most newb Grey Knight could as well. Nothing imples, however, that resisting it would be easy. I'm sure corruption of that nature is far more insidious than just making a pass/fail saving throw. Looking again to the GK Omnibus (or even Fulgrim or any other story of possession) for inspiration, such corruption would take a constant effort of will to suppress/resist. I'm sure slaughtering demons and chaos cultists, while "enunciating the cants of cleansing", is a lot easier when you don't have to squelch the voices in your head.
I mean, I personally don't murder people because three of the four voices in my head insist I don't, but it doesn't make that last one any less convincing.
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Noisy_Marine wrote:The Grey Knight in Hammer of Daemons was corrupted by the end.
You're wrong, as has been covered multiple times in this thread, but thanks for playing.
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crimsonmicc wrote:Wait you guys dont know that the Grey Knights are actually Alpha Legion. I thought everyone knew that.
What. Where did you find that?
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Lynata wrote:Ah, then I guess Grey Knights can be corrupted.
As pointed out earlier, you could say that this has always been the case, but we were just told they were incorruptible because they've known of such rituals to prevent falling to Chaos all along.
As has been covered time and time and time and time again.
We don't know what the Bloodtide does 100%. Most Daemonic plagues/side effects, however (which the Bloodtide likely is), have both a physical and spiritual component. The Grey Knights wouldn't be daubing sigils and wards on their wargear to protect their flesh from a spiritual corruption. That leads us to a very reasonable conclusion that is completely 100% within the Grey Knight motif of "the body will fail before the spirit falters", where if the Bloodtide and Goreflood can't grab anchor within a soul resisting it that it renders the flesh weak and unable to prevent the Daemonic infestation.
Omegus wrote:In order to successfully court a Grey Knight, Chaos would have to unmake itself.
Then surely a daemon of Malal can posses and sway a GK? What with them representing Chaos turning upon itself.... That being said, surely the GK would WANT to use Malal to fight chaos...
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Ahh so many posts and so many of them repeating themselves. The running arguement is that GK cannot mentally/spiritually be corrupted ever, do to the conditioning, rituals and ceremonies they have learned and developed over the centuries.
How many of these same ceremonies are heretical to begin with? Granted we don't know most of them but, if the Bloodtdie is an example last I checked sacrificing virgin blood to gain a benefit of any sort is evil.
Also chaos doesn't need to unmake itself to court a GK, they fight each other all the time. If they can promise, in the right way, the power to destroy "chaos" could they not eventually win out.
I say as others have that one or two might fall, would they live very long, unlikely. As to removing skin and bone it's not necessary, as I recall any ward or sigil can lose its power by simply making one alteration to it. By either erasing a portion of it so that it no longer connects or by adding to it to make it do something else.
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hey801 wrote:This is fictional, if you want to convert a grey night into chaos then nothing can stop you!!!!
We have said that multiple times on other threads.
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hey801 wrote:Why is every body answering the same thing!
If you want to you can say that GK cannot be corrupt, but if you want to they can be corrupt, either way it does not matter!
If you want an army with a background that fits the established background then you can't say they are corrupted.
If you don't want an army that fits with established background why the hell are you asking us about it?
It's that simple.
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hey801 wrote:Why is every body answering the same thing!
If you want to you can say that GK cannot be corrupt, but if you want to they can be corrupt, either way it does not matter!
If you're unwilling to accept what people on the Internet are saying, why post here? You can't engage a group of people, hear their well thought out and cited arguments to the otherwise, then blatantly disregard it by saying "it's cool cuz I say Chaos is the bestist!!one".
40k Background is for actual established background, it's not the place where you should expect the "Gold star for effort on fan-fiction". It is fictional, but it is fiction that exists in reality. 40k Background is not arguing whether "GK can be corrupt". That's fiction and the answer could be anything. What it's arguing is implicitly whether "GW says GK can be corrupt". There's a right and a wrong.
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hey801 wrote:This is fictional, if you want to convert a grey night into chaos then nothing can stop you!!!!
And then there's no reason, at all, for this thread to be in 40k Background. It should be Dakka Fiction or 40k General, because 40k Background is for established, canonical discussions.
"I want to do Chaos Gray Knights, so I'm doing X/Y/Z" doesn't belong in those.
DeadlySquirrel wrote:
Then surely a daemon of Malal can posses and sway a GK? What with them representing Chaos turning upon itself.... That being said, surely the GK would WANT to use Malal to fight chaos...
Incorrect. Choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.
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How many of these same ceremonies are heretical to begin with? Granted we don't know most of them but, if the Bloodtdie is an example last I checked sacrificing virgin blood to gain a benefit of any sort is evil.
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