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Johnny-Crass wrote:Make your movement trays 6x5 then you are made in the shade!

Awesome Thanks lolz!

Now for a question re the destructive potential of the following chaos lord load out. My main opponent will be a Bretonnian player and his general is a bit of a beast from what I remember him telling me (will look up the load out as soon as I can). So I'm thinking

Chaos Lord
- Crimson armour of durgan for killing blow immunity
- mark of khorne for frenzy
- axe of khorne for +1 strength & killing blow
- helm of many eyes for asf
- mounted on a manticore for a flying mount with killing blow

That sounds awesome to me, though as a fantasy noob I was hoping someone could tell me about its weaknesses? I'm guessing it'll be a beast of a target as it'll be out by itself all the time? Any others?

Crimson armor makes you loose your LD bubble so I would swap it for the cheaper talisman that does the same thing

Let him have his ld its a nice bonus.
I would say charmed shield and a ward save maybe mot to boost the ward.

I played a pretty stong lord set up the other day.
Lord
Mot
Tali of preservation
charmed shield
Rune sword.

Pretty nasty and I mean his lord will have to come at you to do anything.
If you put him with sword and board warriors or halberd warriors and his unit will have more than enough punch to deal with the brets,

Yeah I was gonna try the same but with MoK and on demonic mount since I have ye olde khorne lord model, looks pretty beastly on paper

really cant afford to try daemonsword with a bunch of expensive knights with no shrine and dice gods

Here's a cheeky combo

Crown of everlasting conquest: gain regenerate ability
Pendant of slaanesh: +1 attack for every wound suffered

Makes no mention of losing those attacks by regenerating those lost wounds!

Except regen is just a save that does not restore wounds.

Now lore of lifes atribute with pendant is fun

Maybe a combat focused sorcerer then... Are there any life spells that can be cast whilst locked in combat?

All besides dwellers and wrath of the wood

Too bad we don't get to use life magic yaay. The only chance is with the boon I think and with 3rd eye and even then we can't bring back dead warriors :(
how ever throne of vines is pretty solid and toughness 8 warriors is funny.

I would say stay awayfrom the cc sorcerer it may seem like a good idea but he doesnot match up with other fighty characters.

Yeah that sucks. As a matter of interest could ot be done through storm of magic and pacting to someone that can? sorry for asking ot questions!

Reckon third eye etc is a bit too hit or miss, and like you say hell suck in combat anyway. Cool if it were possible though!

Ypu can pact with vc tk and daemons I think daemons can do what ever they feel like doing in terms of magic.

Woc sorcerers are better at cc than most armies casters for several reasons. Warrior stats and fancy armor being the main ones.
He will not suck at cc it's just fighty characters can out do him so keep that in mind.


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Also as a side note I am quite interested to see what others are runnig so feel free to post character builds as well as unit and army builds if you feel like sharing.

I have been running a lvl4 heavens with carpet tali-pres charmed shield and third eye and then throgg

Question, why are there gifts of the gods over 50 points when no one can take a gift over 50 point value?

Daemonprinces can!

But in all fairness many people never run them, or feel those gifts are worth it. Only regularly see 4 or 5 of them used, and thats on casters and killy BSB's

Sad but true a lot of them cost too much for the little good they do.

The dp seem a little expensive for how squishy it is.

Lets hope that when a new book comes out they become worth it I have the old dp character kicking around here somewhere.

Agree about the DP, 300 point base cost seems steep, though I suppose when compared to the named characters at 400-600 points it isn't so bad, am I right in thinking that woc have some of the most expensive hq choices in the game?

Nope Vampires Lords can be stupidly expensive (like 700+ expensive)

OUCH!

Well, in fairness their statline, abilities etc do make them justify the points . The vampires I mean, not the princes. Pity, because I really do need a reason to justify buying one to sit and play with the plastic kit a bit

Also the Beleakor model is one of the best sculps GW has EVER made sooo

Belakor is a great model.
Sigval especially justifies his cost. Same with throg and festus.
A decked out chaos lord or sorcerer can do a ton of damage or just overall good things for you and are stupidly resilient usually.

Also a fully decked out lord or sorce lord can go above 700

My Maniticore lord is Like over 600 points.

You can get a vamp lord up to 855 max though I do not know how or why you would

Ok, so when the funds roll in I should end up with...

20 chosen
20 knights
36 warriors
40 marauders
20 hounds (from the 2x battalions)
tzeentch sorc on disc
khorne lord / hero
either a lord on a juggernaut or mount, probably both eventually, those models are just so bad ace

After looking at the book a little bit I thought maybe I'd mix tzeentch and khorne as opposed to all khorne (with the sorc as an exception). maybe tzeentch warriors, unmarked knights, khorne chosen and maruaders? I dunno, still figuring this all out.

Just a early heads up there will be very few cases where it makes sense to have 20 chaos knights 10 is more than enough since they are quite pricey.


Other than that seem pretty good.
Khorne warriors with halberds are pretty good.

When would anyone need 20 Knights except for during SOM?

A knight star instead of a chosen star would be fairly interesting....

Oh would it ever but soo soo pricey.
Still If anyone can get 20 knights in a list and second make them super useful do post it.