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Are we talking one unit of 20 knights, or 20 knights spread out over a number of different units? And what points limit would you be looking at... I'm up for the challenge


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(I mean what points limit would you need to field them, not how many points would they cost )

I think it would be a D-Star (so one big unit) and I think 2500 would be a good size.

(I mean what points limit would you need to field them, not how many points would they cost )


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Wow, I didn't expect a reply so soon! My last post was supposed to be an edit to the one before lol

I'm up for that, 2500 doesn't sound too bad

Well lets make this the challenge chaps.

Either a 2.5k list or a 2999 list.

Everything has to follow the rules for building an army as in % have to be correct as well as magic items etc.

20 knights used in any way seen fit. As in it can be one unit or several.

The 20 have to be knights you cant use a knight as a lord if that makes sense.

You can use special characters etc.

Imma be back online tonight ill post what I came up with then.

I just sold my warriors book so I must decline the challenge.

Though mine would of involves Archaon and his Swords

Could anyone with a BRB post a quick summary of the army build rules for those of us that only have an army book? Ie, what percentage of your army can be lords / heroes, core choices, special, rare etc. Nothing too detailed, just enough to get me by.

Cheers

25% lord
25% hero
25% core
50% special
25% rare

Core 25% minimum.

3 Duplicates of special.
2 Duplicates of rare.

So I wrote out the whole list on my supposed 'smart' phone only for it to crash just as I was about to hit submit, and then found it had wiped the post clean

As a quick stop gap (will write it up properly tomorrow night) can you read this well enough?

Here it is.

Holy CRAP that is a ton of marauders!!!!!!

I just can't help myself, those chaos knights are some of the best looking models. Also as a flying heavy Nid player I guess I like speed. I guess that's why I was planning on buying 20 knights haha. Would you recommend the possibility of throwing a mounted lord in there as an alternative? Even if it's not optimal the idea of a lord thundering down the field with 20 knights is so epic.

Here's mine, typed up from el laptopo:

Running a mounted lord would work too, I ran mine on foot because the army is built more towards a marauders hold the front while knights flank charge.
Mixing marauders with gw and knights makes for a ton of dead what ever you are fighting.

I wouldnt put the knights all in one unit simply because of debuff spells and other nasty things.
If I were to mount the lord I would drop his shield give him favor of the gods and put him on a pony.

I find that the bsb is better off on foot because of the large amount of infantry with rather slow movement not that they get caught out of position because of a failed restrain test for a charge that is just barely possible to make.

I would not give any of my knights lances you pay points for an upgrade that makes your knights worse in a sense. With their normal weapons even ethereal things wont batter.
As well as always str 5 is nice.

The list was built on the strength of the knights. That being their speed armor and damage. The unit of 7 knights would get a total of 21 str 5 magical attacks where as the 6 man unit would only get 18. Still this usually does quite a number of wounds considering a lot is str and t 3 meaning the knights would wound on 2+. The other upside is the 1+ armor save makes even str 4 attacks be saved on a 2+.
The knights also cause fear which is nice to have. It will not always work but hey when you have a unit that fails its fear test it is good times they can barely hit you and you have an awesome armor save. Combine this all with the hitting power and ranks that marauders can offer and you have yourself a pretty nasty set up. Everyone with str 5 attacks chopping away at the enemy. The mobility and hitting power plus your possible ranks along with all other modifiers should make that combat yours to own.
The army has a bit of a weaker magic phase but never the less can handle itself. What is the enemy going to do when there are 3 units of knights and 3 units of marauders running around, they cant debuff all of them.
As well throwing a large fireball at things is usually pretty successful and the lore has a nice buff or 2 that will help deal with regen if the fireball dosnt do it.

Writing this list was actually quite interesting to be honest and if it were to be a 2999 list there would be at least one hellcannon if not two and the marauder units will get topped up to 50.

So the Marauders are your tar pits?

No the marauders are there to mess things up.

Those guys do a lot of damage they have ws4 and are str 5 with gw. Combining that with 2 attacks from the front (including frenzy) a full horde of marauders will dish out 41 str 5 attacks. There isnt much that can stand up to that and not say ouch.

Can't believe this is still going haha, I will get down to my WoC eventually, but first I will have to finish my GK's, Imperial Guard, Elven Kingdoms (LoTR) and Lizardmen, so this will probably be of no use to me because most likely we will be in 10th Edition!

I'll try to keep it updated as best as I can so who knows.

Makes Sense.

So im taking a 2000pts list to throne of skulls in march and I have a choice to make. Warshrine or a lvl 2 with the mark of slaanesh and a spell familiar.

I have used a warshrine up until now but I tested a slaanesh sorcerer the other day and he was awesome. Titallating delusions was literally a game winner for me. Hellshriek with the combination of Panamonium caused absolute havoc and hysterical frenzy basically boosted my chosen to make them killing machines.

What im worried about is that I already have a lvl 4 tzeentch but the addition of the 3 extra spells gives me more options.

Any thoughts?

I would say LVL 2 Slaanesh as they are amazing

The lvl 2 sounds pretty good as long as you have some experience with them rather than taking a never tested unit to a tournament doesnt seem like a good idea.

I would say post the 2 lists that way we have a better idea of what else you are taking to make a better decision.