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Sorry my bad on the trolls.
Yes they stay stupid but ld 8 beats ld 4 woot.
Keep a bsb close enough and or be in range of charging stupid units

Nice little overview, as a player interested in starting WOC, I'm loving this.

Good to hear thanks hope it helps I will update it and do a little adding hopefully next week good luck and hope you join the dark gods

cowpow16 wrote:Good to hear thanks hope it helps I will update it and do a little adding hopefully next week good luck and hope you join the dark gods

not good enough!!! update it now i need more pearls of wisdom

timetowaste85 wrote:My apologies on the magic shields. You are absolutely correct on that. In the previous book it was Chaos Armor only, and everyone I play with continued that rule-I'll have to take advantage of it. It's kind of hidden, when it should be showing up in either the magic item section or the sorcerer rules.

However Throgg definitely does not remove stupidity for trolls. His rules state that he causes fear, has will of chaos, eye of gods, mutant regen, trolls become core and all monsters may use his leadership within 12 inches and re-roll failed breaktests, and he has vomit. Nowhere in there does he remove stupidity.

Actually they get his LD regardless of being within 12 inches or not, the only thing that is affected by the 12 inches is they get to re-roll failed Break Tests.

I am still new but did just read that rule this evening and thought i would help.

I do like the over view!

Thanks

I think I will have some time in a few weeks to update this and hopefully make it more helpful.

But remember these are only ideas everyone has to get their army built because everyone want something else out of their army.

Nice review! I first disagreed about that chariots suck, since I have found a use of them as a mount to my exalted hero. It may not be competitive or cheap, but it sure hell is devastating and fun

cowpow16 wrote:Thanks

I think I will have some time in a few weeks to update this and hopefully make it more helpful.

But remember these are only ideas everyone has to get their army built because everyone want something else out of their army.

Your Welcome

When you fight cannons that hero and chariot goes poof.
The model is quite bad looking IMO.

Would you mind posting the hero build? I would be interested in seeing it.

What other lore do you think would work well against orcs/beastmen, I find unless I roll 4+6, I cant really do much with my magic phase, I dunno if its worth it for the occasional big hit with infernal gateway

A level 4 shadow and level 2 nurgle work well together, I think a lot of people are a bit too tunnel visioned on the lore of Tzeentch at times so always hear the gateway mentioned .
Slaanesh against low Ld armies even with BSB and generals I think could be very interesting, add in -ld hellcannon hits after lowering ld here and there... Still to try it out admittedly

Vermillion wrote:A level 4 shadow and level 2 nurgle work well together, I think a lot of people are a bit too tunnel visioned on the lore of Tzeentch at times so always hear the gateway mentioned .

QFT
Withering/ Enfeebleing Foe + Curse of the Leper

I like festus because he makes my marauders awesome and gives me 2 nurgle spells.

Shadow always useful lots of really good spells to help your units.

Fire is always fun if you have a lvl 2 fire mage to help out.

Not so sure about lore of slaanesh, I havent tried it.

i think I killed myself once with lore of death but had a really good game with that another time.

But ya I mean I like the fluff behind tz and thats why I run a lot of tz stuff.

he seems pretty squishy though, do you put him on the end of the front rank or something? I can see him being killed quite easily by a few attacks directed his way

I haven't had him die in combat to be honest.
He makes marauders quite durable and the poison makes them good against monsters and other really tough things.

Ill be giving him a go next game, I tried my horde without, they do some serious damage but without any saves some units can reduce their attacks before they get a chance.

Also, can a character in a unit use favor of the gods to alter warshrine results for the whole unit he is in? (just like a champ in a chosen unit if he had the item) Im thinking the warshrine looks pretty damn good and I have a chariot model and loads of spare bits waiting.

Yes to the modifying the eotg results with favor of the gods.
Makes chosen pretty scary.

Marauders do die pretty fast without the saves it is very sad to see them get decimated by arrows :(

This is EXACTLY what I was looking for! Thank you! I'm a 40k player looking at taking a stab at fantasy and I've finally settled on WoC.

This was my plan...
2x Battalion Box
Chosen
Chosen Command
Lord on Juggernaut
Sorc Lord
Then maybe a hellcannon, chariot, or marauder horsemen depending on what kind of $$ I can budget.

Does that sound like a good start? Would a (mostly) Khorne themed army be effective? I'm willing to mark a few things something else but I think I'd like the overall theme to be Khorney. I mostly picked WoC because the models look friggin fantastic, especially warriors, knights, and chosen, so naturally I'd love to play an army with a fair amount of those bad boys in there... assuming it won't just get me killed every game. Anyway, any advice would be great! Thanks!

Suggestions just one you may want to also get the finecast khorne hero with shield and ax he is super sexy and his fine cast model looks way better than the metal.

Two battalions is a great start you get a lot of what you need.

Khorney armys definitely work. Just can't have a marked sorcerer but oh well.

Mok marauders, warriors, and knights kick but hard.

I'm glad this helped good luck and post up a list when you write one up.

So I can't mark the sorc if I'm running.... a Khorne Lord, what exactly prevents me from marking the sorc?

Thanks for the help!

We all know I used this to help build my list and starter army, which is coming along quite nicely and should be getting 30 of the 38 models needed any day now!

Thanks CowPow you were my only hope

fleetofclaw wrote:So I can't mark the sorc if I'm running.... a Khorne Lord, what exactly prevents me from marking the sorc?

Thanks for the help!

I think he just means theme wise, you cant really count the sorc, nothing is stopping you running a nurg/slaa/tz sorc in your list though.

At least old warriors you could ignore wizards with all the dispel dice you got from MoK!

Yes sorry I didnt clarify you cant give a sorcerer mok (because its not an option in the book).

Glad I could help cutthroat.

Really helpful, looking at starting up a WoC force once I have my current 40k projects taken care of and this'll really help when I come to build my list! Thanks!

Glad to hear it

-Edit-

Info was wrong, nvm!

I so want to try the daemonsword mok lord out sometime, what other items would you take for him? Too scared atm taking a lord without a ward, but imagine the destruction he could cause!

I would say give him the sword give him the helm of many eyes and put him in a unit of chosen.
Give him mot and run him in a chosen starish sort of unit.
That way he dosnt have to worry about a ward save, hes in a unit and well ya he would make quite a mess.

So what would being in the group of chosen do for him?

Cutthroatcure wrote:So what would being in the group of chosen do for him?

It means when he butchers his own troops, they will hopefully have 3++ to minimise dmg :p (and yeah 3+ ward for himself without having to spend magic items)

Good idea cow, although Im sick of having to run MoT for anything decent :( hope the new book whenever it comes changes em so we can have a themed army without one mark reigning supreme