British History books for 14 year olds?

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**Frazzled**

Albatross wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Albatross wrote:Joey ranking the miner's strike alongside WWII = Mind blown.

Alby whats the Miner's Strike?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_miners'_strike_(1984%E2%80%931985)

There you go. As you can see, it's a divisive issue. I can't help but think think that certain people would like to teach this incident from a very specific perspective...

Thanks.

Mining officially sucks as an occupation. I freely admit miners are manlier men than Frazzled.

**Sonophos**

Frazzled wrote:
Albatross wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Albatross wrote:Joey ranking the miner's strike alongside WWII = Mind blown.

Alby whats the Miner's Strike?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_miners'_strike_(1984%E2%80%931985)

There you go. As you can see, it's a divisive issue. I can't help but think think that certain people would like to teach this incident from a very specific perspective...

Thanks.

Mining officially sucks as an occupation. I freely admit miners are manlier men than Frazzled.

Isn't that because you are a weiner dog?

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Joey wrote:Pfft most British people prefer coffee anyway.

{posh} you are not fot for polite society sir! Kindly leave the room. {/posh}

**ArbeitsSchu**

We have a Tea Council and a Tea Guild!

http://www.tea.co.uk/a-social-history

See how important Tea is? (When discussing the history of tea.)

**Albatross**

Tibbsy wrote:
Joey wrote:Pfft most British people prefer coffee anyway.

I would probably have to disagree with you here, most of the people I know prefer tea, and the amount of tea that gets drunk in our office would probably kill most normal people

Yeah, I'm gonna need to see to figures on that one.

**Electro**

Joey wrote:Pfft most British people prefer coffee anyway.

Reported for trolling

Anyway, back on topic, you will have difficulty finding much. To be honest US history is not taught in UK schools very much. I did a little on the American Civil War and the stelment of the west. Mostly about how nasty everyone was to the Native Americans etc etc (the normaly guilt trip that pervaided most of school history. Fortunatly going to a catholic school we got to be the persecuted ones when learning about the reformation).

**Ketara**

Albatross wrote:
Tibbsy wrote:
Joey wrote:Pfft most British people prefer coffee anyway.

I would probably have to disagree with you here, most of the people I know prefer tea, and the amount of tea that gets drunk in our office would probably kill most normal people

Yeah, I'm gonna need to see to figures on that one.

I've only met one serious coffee addict in my time here, and about twenty tea addicts to counterbalance that.

**reds8n**

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/commodities/decline-in-uk-tea-drinking-worries-indian-tea-industry/articleshow/12181901.cms

KOLKATA: Tea drinking has for centuries been a proud UK tradition, leading to such coinage as tea parties, tea breaks, and also a great source of revenue for India's tea industry as Britons are the biggest consumers of tea per capita. That could change in the next decade.

The United Nations food agency, the Food & Agriculture Organization (FAO), has forecast that by 2021, Britons will be consuming 15% less tea than 15 years earlier. This decline has emerged as a concern for the Indian tea industry, whose exports to the UK have dwindled to 16 million kg from 22 million kg over the last five years.

A delegation from the Indian Tea Association ( ITA) and the Tea Board of India will visit the UK on March 17 for talks with the UK Tea Council as well as with buyers. Tea companies are also looking to increase their presence in the instant tea market. Goodricke Group for instance, has increased its instant tea supply to Typhoo, a leading brand in the UK. In the 12th Plan, the Indian tea industry has sought additional funds for generic promotion of tea in the UK and other overseas markets.

Azam Monem, director of McLeod Russel India, said: "The UK tea market has become stagnant. The country consumes 100 million kg of tea annually, of which nearly 60 million kg is imported from Africa. UK is gradually leaning towards tea variants where tea content is less, like camomile tea and lemon tea. In this way per cup consumption of tea has gone up in the UK. What we are seeing in the UK is that supermarket brands have shown a decline, while sales of better packeteers like Taylors of Harrogate are increasing." McLeod is the largest integrated tea company in the world.

Monem said tighter European Union laws on maximum residue limit (MRL) may be one of the reasons for declining Indian tea exports. "We will discuss this issue during our visit to the UK," he said.

AN Singh, managing director of Goodricke Group said: "We have to cater to the UK market according to their choice. In fact, Britons have developed a taste for instant tea. In calendar 2011, we sold more instant tea to Typhoo. Nearly 30% of our total production of 400 tonne was sold to Typhoo."

UK first imported tea in 1660. After the first official import in the 1660s of two ounces, tea shipments to the UK soared to 24 million pounds by the start of the 1800s, and at their most recent high in 2006, topped 136,000 tonne. However, tea shipments have declined since then to 119,200 tonnes by 2010. The downtrend will continue, according to the FAO.

The FAO failed to expand on its forecast, although it did hint that a likely enemy, coffee, may be involved. A research in the UK market "suggested that as household expenditure of non-alcoholic beverages increased, consumers tended to spend proportionately less on black tea and more on coffee". Per capita consumption of coffee rose from 2.78 kg in 2007 to 3.14 kg in 2009, according to the International Coffee Organization, although even here consumption growth has not been smooth, falling to 3.04 kg in 2010.

CS Bedi, chairman of Indian Tea Association, does not agree that coffee is eating into the tea market. "It is too early to comment on whether coffee has made a dent in the UK tea market. The UK market is very much on our radar. We have spoken to the Tea Board for generic promotion of Indian tea in all global markets, including the UK," Bedi said.

In fact, the FAO observes that tea producing countries need to look to themselves if they wish to keep tea prices near the 2011 level of $2.85 a kg on average, despite production growth estimated at 1.9% a year over the next decade. "Greater efforts should be directed at expanding demand," the FAO said in comments following a tea summit.

**Ratius**

Tea > coffee imho.

**Kilkrazy**

James Bond hated tea.

**Electro**

I think you mean...

Ratius wrote:Tea > coffee Fact!

**Joey**

It's amazing how people will regard tea as the epitomy of British drinking habits, yet won't even touch bitter/ale, preferring instead German lager.
Just saying.

**Tibbsy**

Electro is correct

And a good bitter/ale beats a lager by far... Although some lagers are ok...

**Electro**

Nothing wrong with German larger, or British ale. Its the cheap French, Danish, American and Australian stuff that is the problem.

**Sonophos**

Ratius wrote:Tea > coffee imho.

Tea: the one thing an Englishman, an Irishman and a Scotsman can agree on.

**nomsheep**

On the topic of tea and british, I had to do about a weeks worth of work on the proccess and health hazards of making good tea in my mechanics course.

In school I learnt about the american civil war which basically summed up to the heroic and valiant north decided that slaves were bad. so the cowardly and decadant south fought pointlessly ( I mean we all know who was going to win.) against our brave heros. other stuff happened but we don't really care.

On the topic of independence, my mum didn't even know the americans where ever a part of the colonies or that they had a war for independence and my knowledge of it starts and ends at there was a war.

Nom

**Tibbsy**

Back to the subject of tea being awesome; there is actually a British Standard on how to make a pot of tea, to the best of my knowledge, there doesn't exist one for coffee....

Back to the actual topic; The only things I know about American history are things I've discovered on my own; beyond a period of learning about the slave trade in school (We watched that film/series Roots, and that's about it) We covered nothing at school on American history.

**ArbeitsSchu**

Joey wrote:It's amazing how people will regard tea as the epitomy of British drinking habits, yet won't even touch bitter/ale, preferring instead German lager.
Just saying.

I'm far too aware of how easy it is to tamper with the contents of the average cask to be really comfortable drinking it.

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Little known fact. American beer is actually the water they drew out of the bay after they had dumped the tea in it, which is why its just brown water,, and another reason why we just upped and left in disgust after some harsh punitive measures for wasting all that tea,. Probably.

**Ovion**

Unsure if this has been mentioned or not but:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/USA-Horrible-Histories-Special/dp/0439999391

**Albatross**

I'm inclined to blame the Tories for the recent decline in tea-drinking.

Am I doing it right?

**George Spiggott**

Kilkrazy wrote:The fictional James Bond hated tea.

Similarly, nobody cares what Gandalf thinks.

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Electro wrote:I think you mean...

Ratius wrote:Tea > coffee Science Fact!

A double hit! I'm a one man fixing phenomenon!

**Sonophos**

Albatross wrote:I'm inclined to blame the Tories for the recent decline in tea-drinking.

Am I doing it right?

You need a bit more vitriol, but it's a good start.