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Holy Crap! That was EPIC!!! The Thresher Maw taking down the Reaper And then Mordin dies. One of my favourite characters. But hey, at least he went out with style.
Pretty good point in that Bioware article, that there is really no room for an "evil" Shephard in this game. But through that, most conversations seem to be a bit useless. Okay, they're still great conversations and above everything anybody working for Capcom ever wrote, but I wish they had more of an impact.
Right now I'm still playing with my Paragorn Shephard, after that I have my evil Biotic Darth Shepard, also male. I'm really looking forward to see how all those missions turn out considering all the people I killed as a Renegade.
I have to say though, after playing FemShep in the demo, I don't like male Shepard as much. Some day I'll have to play ME2 once more to try out how many squadmates I can kill and get away with.
edit: can anyone tell me what happens to Conrad Verner if you're nice to him? I had a bug on the Xbox version in ME2 which always assumed I held a gun to his head, even if I didn't.
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I'm wondering how high of a reputation you need........
Spoiler:
.......to unlock the last paragon/renegade dialogue option when facing down The Illusive Man on the Crucible. I got all of them except the last one, which was greyed out so I had to choose a regular option instead. I still killed him with an interrupt but I don't know what that option would have done. It obviously wouldn't change the ending much but it might have changed the outcome with him.
"Duty is heavier than a mountain, death lighter than a feather."
For me at the end, when I faced the illusive man (anyone else think that's a dumb name?) I had some paragon & renegade responses that I could give while he was monologueing, but no interrupts. I was like a 99% paragon for the whole game
Spoiler:
and I just convinced him that the reapers were controlling him instead of the other way around, so he blew his head off. Also, there's supposedly some way to save Anderson, but for me he died.
2012/03/13 15:44:45
Subject: Mass Effect 3 Gameplay & Storyline Discussion
Aldarionn wrote:I'm wondering how high of a reputation you need........
Spoiler:
.......to unlock the last paragon/renegade dialogue option when facing down The Illusive Man on the Crucible. I got all of them except the last one, which was greyed out so I had to choose a regular option instead. I still killed him with an interrupt but I don't know what that option would have done. It obviously wouldn't change the ending much but it might have changed the outcome with him.
Spoiler:
Is that a choice after the one where you can say he failed to protect humanity as the red choice (I think it's the third conversation point if I remember correctly)? I did the "You failed humanity" one at that point, he gets angry/confused and pushes Anderson out of the way and then I put a bullet in him. I had pretty high reputation as my Paragon bar was maxed out and Renegade was half maxed. I'd done every mission in the game though so that was to be expected really.
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
2012/03/13 20:19:38
Subject: Mass Effect 3 Gameplay & Storyline Discussion
Necros wrote:For me at the end, when I faced the illusive man (anyone else think that's a dumb name?) I had some paragon & renegade responses that I could give while he was monologueing, but no interrupts. I was like a 99% paragon for the whole game
Spoiler:
and I just convinced him that the reapers were controlling him instead of the other way around, so he blew his head off. Also, there's supposedly some way to save Anderson, but for me he died.
"The Illusive man" like "The Dark Council" from tOR. Typical Bioware and their wonderful names.
Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:All I can say is... thank you vodo40k...
Zweischneid wrote:No way man. A Space Marine in itself is scary. But a Marine WITHOUT helmet wears at least 3-times as much plot-armour as a Marine with helmet. And heaven forbid if the Marine would also happen to have an intimidating looking, vertical scar. Then you're surly boned. Those guys are the worst. Not a chance I'd say.
yeah..... i jsut got Garrus in ME3 so i have been skipping most of everything in the thread so far, definatly got to contribute in here a bit once im farther in
WAAAHG!!! until further notice
2012/03/16 09:14:29
Subject: Mass Effect 3 Gameplay & Storyline Discussion
Anung Un Rama wrote:Do I need the Galactic Readiness to get the best ending. Because the Multiplayer is rather boring.
You need an Effective Military Strength above 4000, I believe. I had to do a tiny bit of multiplayer, not hours of grinding.
Yea I got 30% readiness in about 2-3 hours of casual gaming. (and above 5000 is the best ending)
Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:All I can say is... thank you vodo40k...
Zweischneid wrote:No way man. A Space Marine in itself is scary. But a Marine WITHOUT helmet wears at least 3-times as much plot-armour as a Marine with helmet. And heaven forbid if the Marine would also happen to have an intimidating looking, vertical scar. Then you're surly boned. Those guys are the worst. Not a chance I'd say.
2012/03/16 18:39:53
Subject: Mass Effect 3 Gameplay & Storyline Discussion
the multiplayer is fun actually. it really doesn't take long to get it to 100%.. a couple nights maybe if you're starting at 50%. But one thing that I didn't like was, it goes down again if you don't keep playing, by like 5% per day I think. I had mine at 100%, then I went to bed, the next night after work I planned to go finish the game and it was down to 95%, so I had to go play an online match again to get it back to 100 first. I don't think you really need it at 100, but I wanted it
2012/03/16 21:31:32
Subject: Mass Effect 3 Gameplay & Storyline Discussion
I am not reading a single word of this thread because I have not finished the game yet, but I just played the part where you have to decide wether to save the quarians or the Geth. I chose the quarians. Hearing legion say "Does this unit have a soul" made me tear up a little. That was the toughest decision I've had to make in a video game by far. And come to think of it, I don't know why I chose the quarians, other than that their fleet is bigger.
May the the blessings of His Grace the Emperor tumble down upon you like a golden fog. (Only a VERY select few will get this reference. And it's not from 40k. )
2012/03/16 23:18:34
Subject: Mass Effect 3 Gameplay & Storyline Discussion
GalacticDefender wrote:I am not reading a single word of this thread because I have not finished the game yet, but I just played the part where you have to decide wether to save the quarians or the Geth. I chose the quarians. Hearing legion say "Does this unit have a soul" made me tear up a little. That was the toughest decision I've had to make in a video game by far. And come to think of it, I don't know why I chose the quarians, other than that their fleet is bigger.
Anyway I put legion's line in my sig
You know, if you do all of the other mission on Rannoch before the Priority mission, and you have a high enough reputation score, you can save both the Geth and the Quarians. Legion dies either way, but it's a much better ending to that story arc.
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"Duty is heavier than a mountain, death lighter than a feather."
Anyway, my second disc (360) seems to be messed up. The game will freeze once or twice per game session (depending how long I play) and then my xbox won't recognize the disc as ME3, it just say "Play game disc" at the dashboard, then gives me an error it's unreadable. It works fine after a system restart, and yes I have it installed and it still happens. *Sigh* I'm debating on sending it back or not, I really want to play but I really want to not have these problems too. No, it never happens on the first disc either.
Anyway, to go back to the very beginning of this thread...am I the only person here who actually thought that ME1 was the best one of the three so far?
2012/03/17 00:26:33
Subject: Mass Effect 3 Gameplay & Storyline Discussion
Anyway, my second disc (360) seems to be messed up. The game will freeze once or twice per game session (depending how long I play) and then my xbox won't recognize the disc as ME3, it just say "Play game disc" at the dashboard, then gives me an error it's unreadable. It works fine after a system restart, and yes I have it installed and it still happens. *Sigh* I'm debating on sending it back or not, I really want to play but I really want to not have these problems too. No, it never happens on the first disc either.
Anyway, to go back to the very beginning of this thread...am I the only person here who actually thought that ME1 was the best one of the three so far?
I think story-wise it had one of the strongest written narratives, especially the Sovereign reveal.
Sovereign: You are not Saren.
Garrus: I....don't think that's a VI.
That was the biggest "oh sh*t" moment in the series for me. The moment when you realize that you aren't dealing with a rogue Spectre, youre dealing with an intelligent super-machine that's controlling him, and he knows you're onto him.
On the gameplay front though, ME1 was probably the weakest. The classes weren't at all balanced (Vanguard and Adept were monstrous whereas Sentinel was near unplayable), and there were entirely too many choices when it came to equipment and abilities. ME2 dumbed it down a little TOO much, and ME3 balanced them out. I think ME3 is the strongest when it comes to balance between shooter and RPG elements.
"Duty is heavier than a mountain, death lighter than a feather."
See I like all those choices though. I liked the combat a lot more in ME 1 as well though, everything in ME2 and ME3 feels too instanced, too scripted.
I didn't think the classes were that unbalanced really, especially after you start unlocking the ability to give other classes abilities not normally available to them.
I don't know, everything just felt grander in the first game and then it just all got scaled down massively (no pun intended) in the next one and more in this one. I mean, I shouldn't be able to get through any mission in less than 10 minutes.
2012/03/17 11:17:53
Subject: Mass Effect 3 Gameplay & Storyline Discussion
Concerning the Geth and Quarians, now spoilertagged for your convience.
Spoiler:
Aldarionn wrote:You know, if you do all of the other mission on Rannoch before the Priority mission, and you have a high enough reputation score, you can save both the Geth and the Quarians. Legion dies either way, but it's a much better ending to that story arc.
Thanks. I was wondering he'd survive if I chose to not have him upload the Reaper code.
Gork damnit, I miss Legion.
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I just read from my sources that "Bioware plans to discuss the ending after more players have finished it", but since I'm not on my computer I can't link it, sorry guys
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I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying.
2012/03/17 15:41:08
Subject: Mass Effect 3 Gameplay & Storyline Discussion
I swear somethings wrong with my game, all I have ever done is play pure paragon, I never got an option to save both the geth and the quarians and at the end even though i had full paragon i couldnt use the last option on the illusive man. Furthermore I was only just able to scrape 5000 military strength, despite having 100% readiness and scanning EVERY SINGLE SYSTEM for assets and doing every available side mission (my friend was no where near as thorough and he somehow managed to get about 6000 strength with only 60% readiness).
Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:All I can say is... thank you vodo40k...
Zweischneid wrote:No way man. A Space Marine in itself is scary. But a Marine WITHOUT helmet wears at least 3-times as much plot-armour as a Marine with helmet. And heaven forbid if the Marine would also happen to have an intimidating looking, vertical scar. Then you're surly boned. Those guys are the worst. Not a chance I'd say.
2012/03/17 16:57:02
Subject: Mass Effect 3 Gameplay & Storyline Discussion
I think the option to save both is dependent on other things, not just if you're a paragon.. like stuff that happened in ME2. I had the option to save both.. lemmie check my hint book...
Spoiler:
It doesn't say anything about being able to save Legion so I think no matter what he's gonna die.. but for getting both to work together it says you have to:
1. Keep Tali alive in ME2
2. Kill the heretics in Legions loyalty mission in ME2
3. Keep Legion alive in ME2
4. Complete the Geth Figher Squadrons mission in ME3
and you get also get points for:
Complete the Rannoch Admiral Korris mission (+1) in ME3 and save him (+1)
Save Tali from exile in ME2 (+2)
Destroy the heretic in "a house divided" in ME2 (+2)
Broker peace between Tali and Legion in ME2 (+1)
And you need 5 of those points to pull it off. And then it also says you need 4 bars of reputation, whatever that means. Then you'll be able to have both fleets working together for war assets.
Yeah, I rewrote the heretics because I really liked the Geth too much to kill them. I suppose the Quarians don't really matter then because the Geth you didn't kill in the first place now take the place of the Quarians.
So, Tali killed herself, Legion died, and all the Geth love me.
Still really mad that Jack wasn't a squad member option in this game.
2012/03/18 16:22:17
Subject: Mass Effect 3 Gameplay & Storyline Discussion
Yeah, I was wrong concerning what needs to happen.......
Spoiler:
.......to unite the Geth and Quarians. You need to have 5 "plot points" as Necros pointed out. It's actually impossible to unite them if you cold-start ME3 without importing a save from ME2, because the default choices have Legion dead. You gave his body to Cerberus so the "Legion" you see in ME3 is just "Geth VI". Also, I believe Tali is exiled by default. That means the most points you can get in ME3 is 3 without importing a save (Admiral Korris mission +1, Saving him +1, Geth Figther base +1). You need at least one of the 2 pointers from ME2 in order to get the best outcome, so you need to either broker a peace between Tali and Legion, or keep Tali from getting exiled.
"Duty is heavier than a mountain, death lighter than a feather."
But hey, at least he went out with style.
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