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Which is why I asked him where he tourneys at since I can't think of a single flgs or GW that is 18+ only.

Don't get me wrong I have absolutely no problem with the swearing, I'm just really curious how Vyler gets away with it at official events.

Thanks for the feedback and compliments everyone!

In regards to my upcoming tourny, it isn't GW official, it's a local club thing. We are expecting like 80+ people to attend, however. I talked to the club leader and organizer last year about possibly running the Angry Marines, and he said that it would be fine as long as I don't "draw and model genitalia all over your models", heh. That being said I will probably bring some masking tape with me, just in case.

In regards to swearing itself: I, obviously, think it is fine. If I take a step back and really look at the situation, I think the censorship of "naughty" words is one of the silliest, most illogical, and immature things our culture does. I mean, most swear words have "clean" versions that mean the exact same thing and are used by children as soon as they know how to speak. (I am speaking only of the words that don't directly refer to something degenerate or bigoted, of course) The words that don't have a direct synonyms, such as the F bomb, are so versatile that they don't even HAVE a set meaning (it's really just fun to say). Ironically, they only reason swear words exist at all is because they are censored. If we stopped censoring them, they would either go away, or we would have to come up with new ones. This means that (Even MORE ironically) the people who enjoy and laugh at excessively coarse language actually DEPEND on those who are offended/censoring it for continued entertainment. So basically, we need to keep a certain level of censorship, otherwise things just won't be shocking and funny anymore; and THAT would be tragic. Also, it's just common courtesy to respect those who don't like it, and don't find it funny. Kind of like turning off a type of music you know someone isn't fond of when they are coming over. The rubbish "protect the children" justification is something I can never get behind, though (but let's keep that discussion out of the project log forums, lol)

Phew, anyway, I want to thank everyone for remaining mature about this subject. And I really appreciate that the folks who may not appreciate the language on my models who could still find merit from a hobbying perspective. With that out of they way, let's talk about projects! (this is a project log thread after all )

We are now completely up to date with my Angry Marine progress, which means updates may not be as frequent. That being said, I plan on also posting some of my other armies (Dark Eldar, Orks, Chaos, and commissions) to help flesh things out seeing as I don't work on them often enough to warrant their own plog. I am also currently planning on a conversion project to make some Pre-Heresy Custodes and Custodes terminators which should be super fun, if a ways off. Also, if anyone would like me to do a commission project for them, let me know, we can probably work something out!

Next up...Land Speeder!

STAY ANGRY!!!!!!!!

I've started the final model I need for my tourny, my land speeder:



Although not nearly as involved as the Raven, it will be a far cry from a "normal" speeder, heh.

One the cattle prod part that sticks out, you should turn that into a big middle finger

I demand the Adamantine Sack of Power Doorknobs!

Also have you checked out the 'dex /tg/ made? Obviously not for tournaments but perhaps the odd friendly?

Vyler wrote:

Spoiler:

Thanks for the feedback and compliments everyone!

In regards to my upcoming tourny, it isn't GW official, it's a local club thing. We are expecting like 80+ people to attend, however. I talked to the club leader and organizer last year about possibly running the Angry Marines, and he said that it would be fine as long as I don't "draw and model genitalia all over your models", heh. That being said I will probably bring some masking tape with me, just in case.

In regards to swearing itself: I, obviously, think it is fine. If I take a step back and really look at the situation, I think the censorship of "naughty" words is one of the silliest, most illogical, and immature things our culture does. I mean, most swear words have "clean" versions that mean the exact same thing and are used by children as soon as they know how to speak. (I am speaking only of the words that don't directly refer to something degenerate or bigoted, of course) The words that don't have a direct synonyms, such as the F bomb, are so versatile that they don't even HAVE a set meaning (it's really just fun to say). Ironically, they only reason swear words exist at all is because they are censored. If we stopped censoring them, they would either go away, or we would have to come up with new ones. This means that (Even MORE ironically) the people who enjoy and laugh at excessively coarse language actually DEPEND on those who are offended/censoring it for continued entertainment. So basically, we need to keep a certain level of censorship, otherwise things just won't be shocking and funny anymore; and THAT would be tragic. Also, it's just common courtesy to respect those who don't like it, and don't find it funny. Kind of like turning off a type of music you know someone isn't fond of when they are coming over. The rubbish "protect the children" justification is something I can never get behind, though (but let's keep that discussion out of the project log forums, lol)

Phew, anyway, I want to thank everyone for remaining mature about this subject. And I really appreciate that the folks who may not appreciate the language on my models who could still find merit from a hobbying perspective. With that out of they way, let's talk about projects! (this is a project log thread after all )

We are now completely up to date with my Angry Marine progress, which means updates may not be as frequent. That being said, I plan on also posting some of my other armies (Dark Eldar, Orks, Chaos, and commissions) to help flesh things out seeing as I don't work on them often enough to warrant their own plog. I am also currently planning on a conversion project to make some Pre-Heresy Custodes and Custodes terminators which should be super fun, if a ways off. Also, if anyone would like me to do a commission project for them, let me know, we can probably work something out!

Next up...Land Speeder!

STAY ANGRY!!!!!!!!

Makes sense. I personally don't have any problems with swearing, and there is nothing to protect the poor, poor children from since they know all those words anyway (and use them frequently becaue they are "forbidden" and "bad", wich makes using them fun.

Oh and you mentioned that you own an Ork army? PICS!

optimusprime14 wrote:One the cattle prod part that sticks out, you should turn that into a big middle finger

Unfortunately, I already had to put the assault cannon there, because of how the dozer blade fits on :( But I may use your idea for missile pods when I get around to making a typhoon.

VikingScott wrote:I demand the Adamantine Sack of Power Doorknobs!

Also have you checked out the 'dex /tg/ made? Obviously not for tournaments but perhaps the odd friendly?

It shall be done! I have seen the 'dex, it's pretty good stuff, but could use an overhaul. I'm tossing around the idea of writing my own...

MrMerlin wrote:Oh and you mentioned that you own an Ork army? PICS!

My ork army is a bit of a sob story, I had 3k pointz of kustom orks, and someone broke into my car and stole them :( This was like 3 years ago, and I have been very slowly rebuilding. But anyway, ask and you shall receive! (although they aren't as good as yours) Here's what I got painted up so far for my freebootaz, Da' 'Azardskullz:


My warboss, 'AzardSkull Gitstompa. Minor conversions here. This FW model was actually the reason I started building up my orks again!


My FW trukk, my basic color scheme is not red, but I wanted this to have a red paint job, so....


A really bad shot of my trukk boyz. Again, I only gave them red bitz to differentiate them from other masses of boyz.

Really nice paint job on that warboss bikerz, like the trukk as well, red paint job? My warboss is sure that orange is red, so I did my army in that color eheh

I really like that boss! The blue works well with the rest of the colors, and the black/yellow bits all over the model look great!

That storm raven is all kinds of awesome. As is the rest.

Vyler wrote:

Although I wish to build an angry marines army, I have contented myself with Blood Angels, the next most angry chapter.
I love this stormraven. I am going to take this into account when building the rest of my own stormraven.

I must say that is the angriest Motherf**king army of angry a** marines ever
no bulls***t!

SelvaggioSaky wrote:Really nice paint job on that warboss bikerz, like the trukk as well, red paint job? My warboss is sure that orange is red, so I did my army in that color eheh

lol, thanks!

MrMerlin wrote:I really like that boss! The blue works well with the rest of the colors, and the black/yellow bits all over the model look great!

Appreciate the feedback!

Skylifter wrote:That storm raven is all kinds of awesome. As is the rest.

Thanks!

Gutsnagga wrote: Although I wish to build an angry marines army, I have contented myself with Blood Angels, the next most angry chapter.
I love this stormraven. I am going to take this into account when building the rest of my own stormraven.

No shame in second best chapter I look forward to seeing your raven!

Capitansolstice wrote:I must say that is the angriest Motherf**king army of angry a** marines ever
no bulls***t!

Anyway, progress has been made!



I wanted to fill the gap with some other stuff I need to take pictures of, but there has been no sunshine.. Maybe next week.

I absolutely love the Dozer Blade. I can imagine it in action, and it's hilarious.

Chemical Cutthroat wrote:I absolutely love the Dozer Blade. I can imagine it in action, and it's hilarious.

This. So much this!

Also, I love the biker chain!

Lol, these angry marines are great, reminds me of the orks in 2nd ed when they were pure fun. The breezeblock on a chain is genius, 40k needs more breezeblocks!

Love the orks vehicles, the biker boss is pure win.

This is all so great. You know its a good army when parts have to be censored .

The only think I don't like is the cinderblock on the bird, or not the block per se, but the way it hangs straight down. It just kind of destroys the dynamic you got in there with the marines holding on.

I love seeing Angry Marines come to life. Are you going to use dead/wounded/humiliated Pretty Marines as... decor?

This is really coming along... nicely? nah no such thing for those F*cks

Sir Calvin wrote:

Chemical Cutthroat wrote:I absolutely love the Dozer Blade. I can imagine it in action, and it's hilarious.

This. So much this!

Also, I love the biker chain!

Thanks guys!

smiler wrote:Lol, these angry marines are great, reminds me of the orks in 2nd ed when they were pure fun. The breezeblock on a chain is genius, 40k needs more breezeblocks!

Love the orks vehicles, the biker boss is pure win.

Damned right!

TiB wrote:This is all so great. You know its a good army when parts have to be censored .

The only think I don't like is the cinderblock on the bird, or not the block per se, but the way it hangs straight down. It just kind of destroys the dynamic you got in there with the marines holding on.

Yeah, I couldn't think of a good way around it that wouldn't break as soon as I looked at it too hard... oh well, at least this way there is a better chance of collateral damage to my enemy

TheCustomLime wrote:I love seeing Angry Marines come to life. Are you going to use dead/wounded/humiliated Pretty Marines as... decor?

Very possibly! Nothing actively in the works though..

Galorn wrote:This is really coming along... nicely? nah no such thing for those F*cks

THE WORD YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS "ANGRILY"!!

Btw, I had to do repair work on a commission, so I figured I would get some pics of it before giving it back:


I consider the base to be a failed experiment, but the owner likes it, so <shrug>. I never was any good with basing.

Also! I got better a cleaning up my pictures, as you may have noticed, so I'll probably be re-photoing everything...

I thought the base was a cool idea wit the scorched areas where he was standing. Your choice of flocking was meh though.

Not too shabby looking though. That Avatar is a cool model.

Chemical Cutthroat wrote:I thought the base was a cool idea wit the scorched areas where he was standing. Your choice of flocking was meh though.

Not too shabby looking though. That Avatar is a cool model.

Thanks! You are completely right about the flock, "meh" is just about a perfect description, LOL.

Anyway, I have some house renovations going on that has caused my painting/hobby area to get packed up and moved, so I haven't made any progress yet.. I did, however, manage to get some better pics of some of my stuff, which I will throw up as filler:



This is my "scratchbuilt" Klaivex, Calia. Made her out of spare bitz shortly after the new 'dex came out. She is still one of my favorite conversions. I will typically run her as Drahz.

Running Dark Eldar too, good man .

Love the Angry Marines army, to the point that ( in my boredom and searching for a new project...) I've decided to start my own Angry Marines force.

However, I'm not familiar with marines overall, just know a few generalities.
You're using them as Counts-As Death Company right?
Is this simply due to low model count, or is it because they seem to mesh with the AM ethos best?

Ovion wrote:Running Dark Eldar too, good man .

Of course!

Ovion wrote:Love the Angry Marines army, to the point that ( in my boredom and searching for a new project...) I've decided to start my own Angry Marines force.

Sweet! Let me know when you have pics! Feel free to even post them here if you want!

Ovion wrote:However, I'm not familiar with marines overall, just know a few generalities.
You're using them as Counts-As Death Company right?
Is this simply due to low model count, or is it because they seem to mesh with the AM ethos best?

Both those reasons, and more, actually. The low model count allows me to make each model unique without being too burned out, and Death Company Marines are basically the fluff equivalent of your standard Angry Marine, and DC Dreads are the same with Belligerent Engines.

You can also give each Death Company Marine his own personal load out, so I can jam as many wacky power weapon variations in a single squad as I like, and not have to worry about making like 4 marine tactical squads w/ veteran sgts to be able to use all my conversions.

I can then use Astaroth to take away my Death Company limits, and add Sanguinary Priests to make EVERYTHING have Feel No Pain and Furious Charge (this means I can have Angry Terminators, and Sanguinary Guard!). Then you can add in silly things like deep striking Land Raiders, monstrous special characters like Mephiston, fast razorbacks, etc.... Blood Angels are perfect! The only downer is their inability to take thunderfire cannons...

Although it is great fun to tool around the battlefield with like 15 super-powered, practically unkillable, madmen, it's not exactly the most consistent or tactical force to field If you want something that can be more competitive (at the expense of some flavor, admittedly), I think a "counts as" space wolf army would fit the bill nicely. If they would make a new black templar codex, it could be even better, heh.

Ohh! I almost forgot! A swell guy named Agrifex on deviantart made this for me:



Check him out: http://agrifex.deviantart.com/

That is awesome.

And that Tau is effed.

The flexibilty of using AMs means I could just go with most any marine dex then
Tempted by the blood angels though from what you said - I don't really care about winning so much as the fun of it.

Of course, do BAs / DCs get the option to take pods? I like pods. And have ideas of what to do with them for angry marines.

Ovion wrote:The flexibilty of using AMs means I could just go with most any marine dex then
Tempted by the blood angels though from what you said - I don't really care about winning so much as the fun of it.

Of course, do BAs / DCs get the option to take pods? I like pods. And have ideas of what to do with them for angry marines.

Basically, yeah. The limit is how creative you get with interpreting the rules to suit your conversions; so the hardest, I think, would be vanilla marines, they're too "boltery" in my mind.

DA and DC can certainly have pods. My dreads are going to have standard pods (I just have to figure out how to attach dozer blades ). My Marine squad is going to have a rhino, that counts as a drop pod .

BTW, does anyone know: when disembarking from a pod, is deployment the normal 2in from the base hull, or the extended ramps? I need to know this for converting purposes...

My plan for pods are the following:
(Some of these will be plaster-of-paris or something, several have been inspired / stolen from other peoples ideas.)
1: Dreadnought Splat.
- Make a cast of the front of a dreadnought. Around the cast make a crater impact, when deployed place the crater with the dread in it on the field, to deploy remove dread from imprint and stand it in / next to. I intend to have a dreadnought storm bolter of missile launcher 'left' in the crater to be the pod weapon.

2: Rhino > Attach engine > Attach Dozer Blade. 'nough said.

3: Cast my fist up. Place rocket engine in wrist. Have the middle finger fold out as the door.

4: Have at least 2-3 actual pods, cos pods are awesome.

5: maybe another crater one, but a mix of face first / face down / face up / standing marines in a mini-crater thing...

6: model a ship-munition missile or massive shell, have them holding on to that (magnets!) riding it down.

My primary issue is this though: Fuklaw.
Fuklaw is awesome, I want to make him, I want to use him - question is: As what - I bow to those who know marines to point me in the right direction

I'm going to be starting simple though - Converting my AOBR marines to AMs, and aqquiring + converting fuklaw. Timescale - unknown.

Ovion those drop-pod ideas are some of them most awesome things I have ever heard....

Fuklaw could be used within a Command squad, not completely sure what as though, don't have the codexes handy. That could be something to look at...

But seriously, SOMEONE MAKE THOSE DROP PODS!

I agree, Awesome drop pod ideas! Get working, Vyler!