loota boy wrote:

Pnyxpresss wrote:Chaos Space Marines and Orks. Talk about models that don't require much imagination or skill to assemble.
"Hmm, I'll just glue this gun here, paint a little puss and goo there. Oh, hey this vehicle doesn't quite have enough random crap on it, let me add some more...."

Now wait a second. Orks have probably the best range for unit customization. How do they require no imagination to assemble and convert with? What in the space marine line requires intense skills and imaginative ideas to make? Sure, you can paint some mural on the side of your tank, and some chapter symbol on your shoulder pads, but it stops there. Marines are fairly easy to paint, sorry. It's really just "Chose main armour color. Paint it that color, maybe an extra coat or two depending on the color. Now, choes your secondary color, and paint in the armour trim. Dab something in the eyes, and then use a transfer to put your chapter symbol on the shoulder plate. If they are supposed to be gritty, a quick wash will fix it. Now i'm done. When you've got orks, You're painting the skin with extra highlights and washes to get the color in between the muscles, have way more facial features to do, and lots of mismatched armour with different colors, all of which can be painted with various glyphs, clan symbols, and checks and dags. If it's not enough, you can get all sorts of tatoos on it, or warpaint for deffskulls and snakebites, as well as camo for bloodaxes. Evil sunz have al sorts of flame patterns, goffs have checks and dags, badmoonz have loads of ostenious crap that they wear. Putting washes on can take forever, with different coats of dirt, grime, and exhaust maybe for evil sunz. The reason I have so few models painted is because i spend a ton of time making them look great, well, most of them (looking at you, blackreach models from when i first started). And i'm planning to redo them. Vehicles are a lot more then, "Glue on a gun and stick random sh*t everywhere," My vehicles are adorned with orky grafetti(?), and cool glyphes, and various heads and looted weapons taken from enemies. Hell, my scratch-built battlewagon has headless bodies being dragged behind it. My lootas and koptas? I spent days getting all those wires and gubbinz looking nice.

And chaos doesn't require skill? Have you even SEEN some of those great unclean ones in the galary? They look like a pox-ridden victorian london threw up in a gas station bathroom. And i mean that in a good way!