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Necronboy wrote:Chaos: (To be honest I'm having a hard time with this one)

Khornate: Dats-a-spicy meat-a-ball!
Slaaneshi: Creamy.
Nurgleite: Has this gone off?
Tzneechian: Does this taste funny to you?
Undivided: The warp, tastes like the warp.

Also, do you think Tankbustas would attatch the same level of pride to say a carnifex kill as they would to bringing down a tank?

And what's the Eldar word for "Tyranid."? Additionally, I'm interested in Eldar-Tyranid reactions, anyone have any speculation or information on that other than the Auerelian war, Naga, and Iyanden?

Kain wrote:Also, do you think Tankbustas would attatch the same level of pride to say a carnifex kill as they would to bringing down a tank?

And what's the Eldar word for "Tyranid."? Additionally, I'm interested in Eldar-Tyranid reactions, anyone have any speculation or information on that other than the Auerelian war, Naga, and Iyanden?

For the tank bustas I think they see a tank as harder to kill then a carnifex. and for the eldar-tyranids I dont have the codex with me (tyranids) but I know there are a few storys for eldar conflict with tyranids.

Ah interesting. But a regenreating, armoured shell Carnifex would probably be harder than most tanks.

Yes, but that's not how orks would see it. Metal is harder and, well, more metallic than a shell, so must therefore be harder to kill. Simple, see? You just have to look at it right.

I'd imagine that a tankbusta would still shoot at Carnifexes, Tyrannofexes and Trygons and the like if confronted by Tyranids. And also "tanking up" would probably take a lot longer on account of all the meat they'd need to eat.

Kain wrote:Chaos needs mortals to feed on, no mortals means no food, and they would starve and die.

Chaos doesn't eat mortals. Chaos is created by the emotions and thoughts of mortals. Think of the warp as a giant ocean. The mortal's emotions are moisture/heat that feed hurricanes. Without land masses to break them up, they just keep going and going and going.

If a few mortals survive, and many would in the Eye of Terror and similar maelstroms, then some bit of the warp gods remain.

Frazzled wrote:

Kain wrote:Chaos needs mortals to feed on, no mortals means no food, and they would starve and die.

Chaos doesn't eat mortals. Chaos is created by the emotions and thoughts of mortals. Think of the warp as a giant ocean. The mortal's emotions are moisture/heat that feed hurricanes. Without land masses to break them up, they just keep going and going and going.

If a few mortals survive, and many would in the Eye of Terror and similar maelstroms, then some bit of the warp gods remain.

Without the emotions of the mortals in the rest of the galaxy, those maelstroms would start to fade due to a massive decrease in the power of Chaos, and the Tyranids would eat the people now left in the open, and they'd continue to fade until they disappeared, and then the Tyranids would strip them of everything to. The only ones who can conceivably survive the Tyranids stripping the galaxy clean are the Necrons, because they have enough worlds with absolutely nothing on them to eat and no need for the living to avoid being destroyed.

Enough of this Heresy! The Hive Mind is the strongest and largest organism ever to exist and could destroy a thousand Magnus' because it is the size of at least one galaxy, possibly more. That's right, galaxy. Much like the one currently shared by the iom, chaos, necrons, orks, eldar, dark eldar, and hundreds of other races. The only reason that warhammer fluff still continues is because the Tyranids have only been in the galaxy for about 250 years, and even then they have made one hell of a mess of it. If the Hive Mind didn't absolutely shut down anything that accesses the warp, I have no doubt it could contend with the Chaos Gods or even, dare I say it, the Emperor of freaking mankind. Also I'm not totally sure on this one, but I don't even believe that Mortarion could even teleport into a swarm because
A:He no doubt knows it would be a suicide mission
B: You know that whole anti-psyker shadow of the warp guy? Yeah, that little devil times untold thousands.

And I'm not sure where you heard that Tyranids are dumb, but they're actually the most adaptable race in the universe. Granted, Orks and Tau give them a run for their money, but the Tyranids will always prevail and the only reason they've been beaten so far is because these hive fleets are forward scouts for the forward scouts of the vanguard. merely tendrils of tendrils of tendrils that have totally encompassed the galaxy and now probe in from all angles. Honestly, I thin the onle reason that the Hive Mind isn't stated as the strongest organism in existence is because there's been no need. Think of it like the Tyranid's god: the Ork's Gork, the Eldar's Khaine, the Human's emperor. the only difference is that it is in reality, sitting just out of sight, laughing as it pokes and prods and thinks about the day that it comes in spits into the Eye of Terror, purely because he knows it can. when thinking about the Tyranid's strength, just remember that their first incursion, the very first encounter with our galaxy, was Behemoth. That little guy who got right up in that Imperium and did obscene things with it's "Ultra"marines.

Wow, I just read that first page and was so overcome with Khorne-like rage that I didn't even notice there were three others.


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As for these comparisons between hive tyrants and primarchs or C'tan, you're saying that the Guard will always beat the orks because the emperor could take a hundred nobs in close combat. there's a reason there's only ten primarchs- theyr'e gods among men. try comparing them to something a little more to scale on the Tyranid spectrum. Sure the C'tan eat stars, but the Hive mind eats galaxies. It would be a legendary fight, but the Tyranids would win.

Also, it has now been confirmed in the fluff that the Tyranids fleets that have entered the galaxy are splinters of a far, far more massive fleet that is still stretched out across the intergalactic void.

That's not really that new, but that massive, uber-fleet will probably never, ever arrive in the 40K narrative.

Yes, I think the current fluff stands at 999.M41 and it's not likely the rulebooks or codices will advance the date. More likely, they'll work backwards and flesh out the history. I heard that the novels go as far as 500.M42, though.

Psienesis wrote:That's not really that new, but that massive, uber-fleet will probably never, ever arrive in the 40K narrative.

Actually, it wouldadd to the grimdark when everything just goes to he'll. The emperor dies, the fleet arrives, chaos has another crusade, etc. I don't think GW realizes that they can go to M42 and still call it warhammer 40,000 because it will then actually be 40,000 years in the future.

That's really what I was expecting in 6th. All the 5th edition codices hinted that all of their armies have been getting significantly stronger, and I thought the new edition would mark the beginning of the end.

Orks- Just more stuff to fight.

Eldar- A grave threat, basically the same as the Imperium.

Chaos: Mostly more blood to spill for the Blood God, since Tyranids are on the opposite side of the galaxy from the Eye Of Terror.

Dark Eldar: More lifeforms to torture and preform creepy experiments on.

Tau: Same as Imperium or Eldar, but more so, as the Tyranids stand a good chance of devouring the entire Tau Empire.