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so is there a cultist model?

after years of playing DoW i never even thought twice about the cultist model they had.. on the games workshop website i cant find a cultist model? does this mean they are new?

I updated The Dude's list on Warseer:

Captain Balthasar: w/ Power Armour, Power sword, Combi-Plasma, Frag & Krak grenades

Librarian Termiel(?): w/ Power Armour, Bolt Pistol, Force Weapon, Frag & Krak grenades

Deathwing Squad Balachar(?): Sergeant w/ Storm Bolter & Power Sword, 1 w/ Assault Cannon & Power Fist, 1 w/ Storm Bolter & Chainfist and 2 w/ Storm Bolter & Power Fist

Tactical Squad Raphael: Sergeant w/ Plasma Pistol & Chainsword and 9 Marines, 1 w/ Plasma Cannon, 1 w/ Plasma Gun, 7 w/ Bolters. All with Bolt Pistol and Frag & Krak grenades

Ravenwing Squad Allian(?): Sergeant w/ Chainsword, 1 w/ Plasma Gun and 1 w/ Bolt Pistol. All with twin-linked bolters and Frag & Krak grenades


Chaos Lord: Power Armour, Power Sword, Plasma Pistol, Frag & Krak grenades

Dreadnought (Seems to be named as "Hellbeast"): Multi Melta and Power Fist

Chosen: Sergeant w/ Power Maul, Bolt Pistol & Bolter. One with a lightning claw, one with Power Axe, Bolt Pistol & Bolter, one with Power Fist, Bolt Pistol & Bolter, two with Close Combat Weapons, Bolters & Bolt Pistols. All have Power Armour, Frag & Krak grenades

Cultist squad 1: Cultist leader w/ two Close Combat Weapons and 9 Cultists, one w/ Flamer, 8 w/ Close Combat Weapons & Autopistols

Cultist squad 2: Cultist leader w/ Close Combat Weapon & (possibly) Shotgun and 9 Cultist, 1 w/ (possibly) Heavy Stubber and 8 w/ Autoguns

angryboy2k wrote:
Dreadnought (Seems to be named as "Hellbeast"): Multi Melta and Power Fist

Chosen: Sergeant w/ Power Maul, Bolt Pistol & Bolter. One with a lightning claw, one with Power Axe, Bolt Pistol & Bolter, one with Power Fist, Bolt Pistol & Bolter, two with Close Combat Weapons, Bolters & Bolt Pistols. All have Power Armour, Frag & Krak grenades

That sounds badass. The cultists are total cannon fodder but these two units seem like they'll cut through most of the DA units like butter.

I also love that the Chosen have tons of different weapons, hopefully some better stats too!

Vladsimpaler wrote:

angryboy2k wrote:


That sounds badass. The cultists are total cannon fodder but these two units seem like they'll cut through most of the DA units like butter.

I also love that the Chosen have tons of different weapons, hopefully some better stats too!

Stats are on the previous page. The Chosen are 4 4 4 4 1 4 1 9 3+

angryboy2k wrote:
Stats are on the previous page. The Chosen are 4 4 4 4 1 4 1 9 3+

Oh wow, I just saw that. That's pretty lame that they just have Chaos Marine stats but that's life! I'm sure they will be great models in any case. :3

There is only one thing that worries me regarding this Starter Set.
Since the starter painting set has shoulderpads modelled with Dark Angel iconography, should we expect the Starter Set to feature similar iconography? I would not like that at all, since I would love to use these for my own DIY chapter.

Get your modeling knife out. Scrape scrape.

If they are robed, they'll make good Sternguard.

Well, except for the fact that the models with Storm Bolters would be wearing Terminator armour of course.

I meant the bolter armed marines. Typically Dark Angels = Robes.

The Terminators just scrape scrape you have terminators. Buy CMLs off the internet, have a party.

2500kgm3 wrote:There is only one thing that worries me regarding this Starter Set.
Since the starter painting set has shoulderpads modelled with Dark Angel iconography, should we expect the Starter Set to feature similar iconography? I would not like that at all, since I would love to use these for my own DIY chapter.

The starter painting set had Marines with Ultramarines iconography on them too for 5th, yet the actual starter set had bare shoulders. I wouldn't expect anything different.

Crazyterran wrote:I meant the bolter armed marines. Typically Dark Angels = Robes.

The Terminators just scrape scrape you have terminators. Buy CMLs off the internet, have a party.

Not really typically; they just kinda get thrown in there here and there. Even so, Marines in robes is something you can have in any chapter really.

Crazyterran wrote:I meant the bolter armed marines. Typically Dark Angels = Robes.

The Terminators just scrape scrape you have terminators. Buy CMLs off the internet, have a party.

Its actually been only their veterans and leadership that have the robes. In a 10 man tact squad, you'd only have the sergeant wearing them.

For the termies, I wonder if they'll be lazy and just rejig some of the SpaceHulk models? Not that there was anything wrong with those models, I'm not complaining...

Brother SRM wrote:

sharkticon wrote:
I have a source telling me that there will be three versions:

1) DA+Chaos
2) DA + Terrain
3) Chaos + Terrain

If this is true I'm prepared to be out about $200+; I'd love some themed terrain for multiple armies!

If they all come with the mini-rulebook, I'll probably pick one team or the other based on appearance, and just stick with that. Not sure what I'd do with two armies, and my Tyranids...

MandalorynOranj wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly. The starter set should show off a bit more variety than this, and be more balanced. Compare this to the Warmachine and Hordes two-player starter sets. Those are two fully playable armies out of the box and are balanced against each other. Now, with 40k needing more models to play I'm not expeciting full legal armies (HQ and 2 troops) but it would be nice to see two forces that can go up against each other in a fair fight, and to show off more aspects of the game than marines to give a taste of what the whole game is like. In that regard, the cultists are a step in the right direction, but it's still mostly marines vs marines...

From these rumors, I'd say AoBR was more successful as an intro to the game.

However, AOBR had almost exact same imbalance in forces. I don't think it's much of a problem, really. Not that many people are going to play starter forces straight 1 vs 1.

Yeah, I think I'll be picking this up and swapping with a friend to get his DA stuff. More bikes and terminators are always welcome.

yeah it seems like an unblanaced army... i never got Assult on black reach... however i did have battle for macrage.. which had a lot less models i know but i remeber that the missions only allowed you to use certain models each game. it was actually really fun slowly introducing models.

so you could start with and 5 space marines on a patrol and they spot some cultists, then the battle esxalates and both sides call for some back up and then 5 more marines join and more chaos to.. then it can be a battle on the other side of the planet between the terminators and chaos lord and choosen ones.. you all get the idea hahaha

Viagrus wrote:Who is really shocked that the imperium has an edge as far as points are concerned. Remember AoBR the Orks were short over 100 points. They also could barely deal with the dreadnought. The imperium will always have a better starter set than any other faction. "Good" must *always* prevail. Heil Corpse Emperor!

We are talking about the same Starter Set? The dread was easy to deal with the Deffkoptas, and the marines had a very hard day fighting those orks, at least on my games with a budy... wich barely had 3 pieces of terrain in it.

Warboss atached in the boyz, and nobz squad coming behind... The terminators rarely done something (beside some shooting, and a subsequent death to the boyz), and the tacticals always had bad days with the nobz... Not to mention the poor space marines comander, who always failed to kill the warboss, wich ended killing it with instadeath power punches...

Good ork old days those...


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Oh, and i really want to see those cultists after all...

It's true the armies don't look that balanced, but the scenarios will probably be the tactical squad Vs the cultists or there will be a scenario rule that allows the cultists to be recycled when they are destroyed. In other words, the balance is no big deal, and most people will be after the rulebook and minis anyway.

So, through those scanned pages, it seems the cultist statline is:

WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv
3 3 3 3 1 3 1 7 6+

Effectively guardsmen then. Pretty much what we expected in that case.

The unit entry has been leaked. Just saw it quoted on chinese forum baiduhttp://tieba.baidu.com/f?kw=%D5%BD%B4%B840000 .

DA has :

Captain Balthasar(with power armor, not in TDA)
Librarian(with power armor)
Tactical Sqaud(10 men, with 1 plasma cannon)
Deathwing Squad(5 men, with storm bolters, no Stormshield)
Ravenwing Squad(3 bikes)

Chaos part:
Lord(in power armor)
Chaos Dread(with tl-melta and DCCW)
Chosen(6 men, with power maul, power fist and lightning claw)
Cultists(20 men, half with ccw and pistol, the other half have assault rifle)

found this on warseer and this may be the stat sheet for the above squads
[/url]http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?331635-6th-edition-starter-set

please feel free to tanslate this in to english as you wish as I am not that linguisticly gifted

Really disappointed in the dark angels marines..most boring units , aka green black reach with bikers :(

This would have been so much nicer to see

Chaplain
15 scout
5 CCW Terminators
Land speeder

the chaos part are grate cant wait too se the modells

I'd say it's perfect for Dark Angels. A mix of regular marines, deathwing and ravenwing.

Cerebrium wrote:I'd say it's perfect for Dark Angels. A mix of regular marines, deathwing and ravenwing.

And also units that can fit fairly well into most other SM armies.

Really hope the cultists follow the graphical look from DoW2. Would love to have a mental army of those. Hmmm... may need to reboot The Purge...

Cerebrium wrote:I'd say it's perfect for Dark Angels. A mix of regular marines, deathwing and ravenwing.

Well so is black reach , only the biks are a new unit

we alla have a ton off boring taq marines ( Black reach , battle for macragge , paint set )
Capitan and terminators are in BR too , almost the same weapons too so nothing "new"

Claimh_Solais wrote:

Cerebrium wrote:I'd say it's perfect for Dark Angels. A mix of regular marines, deathwing and ravenwing.

Well so is black reach , only the biks are a new unit

we alla have a ton off boring taq marines ( Black reach , battle for macragge , paint set )
Capitan and terminators are in BR too , almost the same weapons too so nothing "new"

Did you really expect a massive shakeup to the loyalist side? You get tacticals, captains, terminators generally, because they're good and all marine players want at least those.

Wow, looks pretty good to me.
Especially if the three separate box sets are true.

Cerebrium wrote:

Claimh_Solais wrote:

Cerebrium wrote:I'd say it's perfect for Dark Angels. A mix of regular marines, deathwing and ravenwing.

Well so is black reach , only the biks are a new unit

we alla have a ton off boring taq marines ( Black reach , battle for macragge , paint set )
Capitan and terminators are in BR too , almost the same weapons too so nothing "new"

Did you really expect a massive shakeup to the loyalist side? You get tacticals, captains, terminators generally, because they're good and all marine players want at least those.

Yeah I hoped for more interesting units for the loyalist sida

as a marine player myself I dont see why I would want more taq marines and capitans

Claimh_Solais wrote:
Yeah I hoped for more interesting units for the loyalist sida

as a marine player myself I dont see why I would want more taq marines and capitans

But as a starter set, it's perfect for someone that's only starting.

The separate sets complete it well, so veterans get something more specific.

I hope the special sets have nice terrain kits, there are a lot of things in the terrain section that need models.

Claimh_Solais wrote:Yeah I hoped for more interesting units for the loyalist sida

as a marine player myself I dont see why I would want more taq marines and capitans

You know it's not aimed at people with an established army right? It's a starter set. It's meant for another target audience.

Hint - the clue is in starter set somewhere.

Don't current deathwing have power weapons instead of power fists? I guess they'll be changing them to be more consistent with the standard marines?

Hopefully the models really stand out. If it's the same terminators and lame bikers it's going to be a major let down.