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 Sidstyler wrote:
Also, I can buy X-Wing at my local store, so clearly the FFG stock issues are just the internet over-exaggerating things or making storms in tea cups like it typically does.

Base game? Sure. Try getting your hands on most of the expansion boosters though (and make no mistake, you'll need a couple of those for an enjoyable experience!); those are... elusive, to say the least

 Kilkrazy wrote:
what GW would think a game with crappy rules would sell.

What are you talking about? This IS the company that made 8th ed WHFB and 6th ed 40K, crappy rules is their entire current business model!

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Yes, it's true that Space Hulk was basically an update, and Dreadfleet was a brand new design. Which makes it a great pity that it was a failure. I wonder why Dreadfleet was such a failure?

It was a lot of money on a blank release with no previous history and no forthcoming information, so I held off until some reviews came out. The reviews were poor, so I passed. Can't have been the only one.

PhantomViper wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Yes, it's true that Space Hulk was basically an update, and Dreadfleet was a brand new design. Which makes it a great pity that it was a failure. I wonder why Dreadfleet was such a failure?

Because it was a horrible game with horrible rules?

That and the price. At half the RRP (£70?) it might have been worth it for a couple of evenings entertainment, but it seems from the reviews I read that it was too random to be enjoyable, and had no real replay value, so a lot of people bought it, played it once or twice and then tried to get rid, whilst the high price put off impulse buys.

I'd seen it going for about £30 and couldn't bring myself to buy it.

I was told GW moved some production to china for cheaper costs and there was some kind of shipment blunder and most of the places that take longer than 5 days shipping out did not get there tau product. Has anyone else heard this? What concerns me most is if GW did moving production to china then it's going to cost less to make while they hike prices in June.

Kal-El wrote:
I was told GW moved some production to china for cheaper costs....

I would take it with a grain of salt personally, at least until it is independently corroborated. FW made a similar move a while back; moved a bunch of production to China and just as soon as they did, a load of counterfeit FW stuff started appearing. Not sure GW would be foolish enough to risk that happening again, even if the cost savings were good.

Whoops.

Posted to wrong thread.

Hmmm, what I think is happening:
GW is suffering from flat and/or diminishing sales.
GW has cut production.
GW may be cutting back on QA (just may - it could also be that Finecast is just that bad....)
GW may be suffering a cash/liquidity crunch - selling off the machines in Florida to help free up some liquid funds.

This is balanced, in part by having a low overhead with the exception of the GW storefronts.

GW wants to draw attention away from a possible cash flow problem, so is going for actions that net the greatest returns on profits, not the greatest volume of sales.

If so then the methods that they are choosing are stopgap measures only.

As a result GW may make themselves inconsequential to the hobby as a whole - removing themselves from the greater picture to focus only on their core base.

Observations:
Fantasy, as a whole, is not as healthy for GW as WH40K - but I also do not see any direct competition faring well in that market either. Much as I love Kings of War it just does not have that same base. Privateer's WARMACHINE is actually more in competition with 40K than fantasy, as far as scale and game flavor goes.

Possible Consequences:
I do not see GW pulling out of this situation anytime soon - they are too entrenched, and are too stubbornly clinging to an outdated strategy.

I do not see GW vanishing anytime soon, though we may see a slow decline and collapse, followed by a faster collapse if/when investors begin dropping under performing stock.

I do not see GW being picked up by Hasbro - more likely they would try a competing model through WotC rather than pick up the GW lines.

The properties... more likely to be picked up by a computer game company, I think, than a tabletop game company. This may or may not be good for the game settings as a whole, but would likely be disastrous for the tabletop games.

The Auld Grump

*EDIT* In summation, there is doom and gloom for this week's forecast, followed by more gloom and doom for the weekend! And now, Andy with today's Sports Reports!

Im tellin ya guys---

GW tanks and FFG picks up the Intellectual property and then markets the RPG stuff and sells the miniature aspect to RICK PRIESTLY

Problem solved!~

FarseerAndyMan wrote:
Im tellin ya guys---

GW tanks and FFG picks up the Intellectual property and then markets the RPG stuff and sells the miniature aspect to RICK PRIESTLY

Problem solved!~

I really hope that you are a prophet there - I would much rather be wrong in this regard.

The Auld Grump