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Widowsbane wrote:
I realize this thread has devolved but I would add the my INQ codex only allows psyflame ammo and not psybolt ammo, per the original loadout by original poster...

Check again. Psybolt ammo, Inquisitorial Vehicle Equipment, 5pt upgrade. Look under the Wargear point cost list, not the one with descriptions.

Poly Ranger wrote:

MarkyMark wrote:

 Elgrun wrote:
Sorry if its been mentioned but are you testing if the hymn goes through by the LD 10 of the Inquisitor or the LD 7 of the priest?

Inq will be at ld7 anyway if he has hammerhand.

Priests aren't casting psychic powers so will be successful on the inquisitors ld10.


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Hammerhand will however be ld7 in shadows range.

No. New Shadows drops the LD of all Psykers, not just for Psychic tests.

Poly Ranger wrote:
You need 8 haywire missiles on average at bs4 to destroy a raider in the open.

Tyranids also have warp blasts. And also they could sacrifice a MC to destroy the LR.

If you're running Sisters with =I= you can add a IC priest from the Sisters dex with the Literine of faith to auto-pass the war hymns, then all you need to worry about is getting the HH's off.

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 Tyran wrote:

Poly Ranger wrote:
You need 8 haywire missiles on average at bs4 to destroy a raider in the open.

Tyranids also have warp blasts. And also they could sacrifice a MC to destroy the LR.

This is true. I was just commenting to the people who believe a couple of crones will be able to takr out the raider in one go. All armies have the ability to take out the raider, im not denying that. But this thread makes it sound like raiders are as easy to kill as rhinos!


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rigeld2 wrote:

Poly Ranger wrote:

MarkyMark wrote:

 Elgrun wrote:
Sorry if its been mentioned but are you testing if the hymn goes through by the LD 10 of the Inquisitor or the LD 7 of the priest?

Inq will be at ld7 anyway if he has hammerhand.

Priests aren't casting psychic powers so will be successful on the inquisitors ld10.


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Hammerhand will however be ld7 in shadows range.

No. New Shadows drops the LD of all Psykers, not just for Psychic tests.

Now this is a MAJOR issue! Although a very simple solution to to shadows issue IF at dual FOC... Include a 25pt non psychic inquisitor - everyone can then use his unadjusted ld for tests...


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 evildrcheese wrote:
If you're running Sisters with =I= you can add a IC priest from the Sisters dex with the Literine of faith to auto-pass the war hymns, then all you need to worry about is getting the HH's off.

D

That's a good idea. Although wouldn't be able to share a transport, is the only issue.

Poly Ranger wrote:


Now this is a MAJOR issue! Although a very simple solution to to shadows issue IF at dual FOC... Include a 25pt non psychic inquisitor - everyone can then use his unadjusted ld for tests...

At dual FOC I expect your opponent to bury you in FMC.

Yes they can. They can bury any army in FMCs. That can be said about absolutely anything. Tiggy and cents? Ahhh they can bury you in fmcs, IF dev spam, ahhh they can bury you in fmcs, green tide, they can bury you in fmcs, BA/IG/SM mech spam, they can bury you in fmcs. I don't see how that is relevant to this build compared to any other when it comes to that.
And anyone in turn can have a reliable amount of AA at 2k+. If people were worried about being buried in FMCs they wouldn't play against tyranids.

What I meant is that at dual FOC there are better options that your expensive one trick CC unit. Really, your unit charges and kills a MC, next turn it gets obliterated and the LR charged and killed. 600 points for a 200 points MC, it doesn't seems good to me.

Its why you take it if you know you are facing a fex spam. They cost ~450pts for the 3. And if they are focused on that unit they are not focused on other things. I see what you are getting at but almost any 521pts (not 600) can be taken out if focused upon, but focusing on such things prevents you from taking a wider look at all the other units gunning for your armies blood and dealing with them when they also need to be dealt with.

But even if you kill the Fexes, the unit and the LR isn't going to survive next turn.
And if you know that you are going to play against fex spam then your opponent knows that he is going to play against your unit and invest in some good zoanthropes.

Even if they don't survive they have distracted the opponents army for a turn and made them play into your hands.