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Not the greatest villainy of all time, but I always rather liked this one...

Peter Wiggin......Ender Wiggin older brother was not evil so does not make the list

 dogma wrote:

 AndrewC wrote:
Londo Molari (B5). A prime example of good intentions leading someone down the path to hell.

That said, there is this:

Aah, but is that him waking up to where he is and deciding, well I'm here so lets have some fun?

Cheers

Andrew

 Jihadin wrote:
Peter Wiggin......Ender Wiggin older brother was not evil so does not make the list

Depends on where you sit. I'm sure there were plenty of people who didn't like the authoritarian aspects of Peter's hegemonic Earth. That being said, the crux of the book was that Ender was, deep down, the true monster. He spent the rest of his life attempting to atone for it.

One doesn't go looking into Card's books to find the greatest villains. Like reality, his characters are nuanced. In the real world there is no such thing as cut & dry good/evil...as a master storyteller he understands this.

My opinion of course, nothing more.

Given my signature, this will come as no surprise, but I'm going to have to go with Bob:

Bob eh....I counter with..

Kefka. He is not the sum of all evils or a puppet to a higher power. He is just an evil evil man.

I'm a fan of the the whole "creation turns against its creator" type of villain. Frankenstein comes to mind primarily, but there are just as many in all genres of fiction and venues of entertainment.

There's just something horrifying and tragic about the whole scenario, as almost all of the creations that turn against their creator were built for (usually)some form of good intention. Whether it's to create a defense apparatus free of human error and deficiencies, artificial humans to do jobs normal humans couldn't safely do, recreate life in order to resurrect a loved one, etc. there is also usually a justifiable reason for their turning against their creator, which makes it tragic. And often times the creations are actually made to be better in most things then their creators, which makes it horrifying.

I'm surprised no one called out Sephiroth from FFVII.

.... however I actually can;t decidebecause their are so many good(?) ones.

Since Shodan is on the list, might as well show off her grand daddy

The Allied Mastercomputer from I have no mouth and I must Scream

If we are getting into Video game bad guys there is a nice list of them.

Some of my personal favorites (guerrilla games know how to make a solid villian)

Space Brian Cox AKA "Scolar Visari"



The Speeches


Another KZ bad guy

Space Sean Pertwee aka "Colonel Mael Radec"



My Personal favorite
Spess Malcolm Mcdowell aka "Jorhan Stahl"

Hmmm My favorite are either
the Wraith- a divergent evolved form of your superior ancestors? who kill you by sucking out your life force and pretty much cause said awesome ancestors to disappear? scary

Or-i( I do like stargate)- fueled by higher planed people and have super advanced tech, only ones who can actually fight them refuse to and have insane numbers.

Hmmm......

No one has mentioned the T-1000 from terminator 2. Robert Patrick did a very good job of playing a frightening remorseless killing machine.
Same goes for Arnold in the original Terminator.

You guys also missed Godzilla(the original) and subsequent monsters.

Anyone mention "The Master" from Doctor Who yet?

Silliest villain transformation would be Malcolm McDowell as Kesslee in Tank Girl.


Really all mentioned so far by previous posters are good, but imo the worst are the following:

Greatest fall from grace(hero to villain) has to be George Lucas for the Star Wars prequels and the Indiana Jones Crystal Skull disaster.

and

The Fox exec's that canceled Firefly and Almost Human.



There are others from the golden age of cinema like the invisible man, the martians from War of the Worlds, the Blob, ect., ect.. but my vote still goes to those villains who ruin or stop good sci-fi.

Later,
ff

 focusedfire wrote:
Hmmm......

No one has mentioned the T-1000 from terminator 2. Robert Patrick did a very good job of playing a frightening remorseless killing machine.
Same goes for Arnold in the original Terminator.

You guys also missed Godzilla(the original) and subsequent monsters.

Anyone mention "The Master" from Doctor Who yet?

Silliest villain transformation would be Malcolm McDowell as Kesslee in Tank Girl.


Really all mentioned so far by previous posters are good, but imo the worst are the following:

Greatest fall from grace(hero to villain) has to be George Lucas for the Star Wars prequels and the Indiana Jones Crystal Skull disaster.

and

The Fox exec's that canceled Firefly and Almost Human.



There are others from the golden age of cinema like the invisible man, the martians from War of the Worlds, the Blob, ect., ect.. but my vote still goes to those villains who ruin or stop good sci-fi.

Later,
ff

I mentioned the Master. I like your choices but can't say I agree with them.

I agree wholehearted about George Lucas being the greatest villain in the Star Wars prequels (lol)

Godzilla technically wasn't the bad guy in the original. It's hard to characterise him, but the human race was essentially the baddies in that movie.

 Doctadeth wrote:
Godzilla technically wasn't the bad guy in the original. It's hard to characterise him, but the human race was essentially the baddies in that movie.

Agreed... The newest one, IMO puts this in the best light: "The arrogance of man is thinking that he is in control of nature, when it is really the other way around"

Baron Vladimir Harkonen from Dune. He is THE classic villain.

Char from Gundam is a mirror of the protagonist and is cool, sympathetic and absolutely convinced that he is on the side of truth and justice. Like the show, don't like it, but Char is in my top three.

The Emperor from Star Wars. He really loves his job. He's a sarcastic jerk and he loves being a sarcastic jerk.

False Maria from Metropolis. Evil android woman that tries to get a labor revolt to kill their own children. And the 'inspiration' for future robots. Classic and alluring.

Hal from 2001. Cold and murderous. A very chilling villain.