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 Yodhrin wrote:
The actual Marines OTOH, crikey they're something. Got my Dark Imperium this morning and I sorely wish the Nurgle stuff and the Flying Lobsters were going to be more popular, 'cos I'd love to swap them for more of the basic Restartes - making truescale Proper Marines is going to be a breeze compared to prior methods.

Anecdote warning and what not, but I smirk every time I read this because there literally aren't enough people willing to sell the Nurgle half to meet the demand of people asking for it locally.

I know it's not a broader "issue", but it's still funny to me that people thing it's not popular enough.

Going by there description in the Dark Imperium novel I'd be surprised if Inceptors and Agressors were a duel kit. I'd imagine both will get multiple builds from there kits, with the Gravis captain a possible build from the Agressors.

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Here's a piece of art from the rulebook allegedly showing new apothecary:

Spoiler:

Don't care about the Apothecary, but those medical servotors are brilliant. Hopefully we get some models for them.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Accolade wrote:
Regardless, the goal is to build a separation between the armies. It's the only way they'll be able to "encourage" people to move to the new marine standard.

I'm curious if some of the marine equivalents (I.e. Apothecary) will retain the same name or get a new designation (i.e. Standard bearer-> ancient) as they appear in the Primaris army list.

'Ancient' isn't a new designation. The Ultramarines Chapter Banner bearer, Ancient Helveticus dates back to 2002.

Actually he's quite a bit older! Almost ten years further back in 1995 in the 2nd edition Ultramarines codex.

 sockwithaticket wrote:

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Here's a piece of art from the rulebook allegedly showing new apothecary:

Spoiler:

Don't care about the Apothecary, but those medical servotors are brilliant. Hopefully we get some models for them.

With everything having its own data sheat, perhaps primaris characters may get some medic servitor hangarounds to soak up high damage shots.
Anyway, they look just like genestealer cultists, so it should not be to hard to fix some up.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
The actual Marines OTOH, crikey they're something. Got my Dark Imperium this morning and I sorely wish the Nurgle stuff and the Flying Lobsters were going to be more popular, 'cos I'd love to swap them for more of the basic Restartes - making truescale Proper Marines is going to be a breeze compared to prior methods.

Anecdote warning and what not, but I smirk every time I read this because there literally aren't enough people willing to sell the Nurgle half to meet the demand of people asking for it locally.

I know it's not a broader "issue", but it's still funny to me that people thing it's not popular enough.

I was just going by how little interest I've found and the tendency for Primaris, in particular the Lieutenants and foot infantry, to go out of stock well before the Nurgle stuff and the flying Restartes blokes on bitz sites. I'm not saying they're unpopular, just less popular enough that I can't get rid of mine unless I'm willing to agree to a wildly disproportionate swap ratio.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
The actual Marines OTOH, crikey they're something. Got my Dark Imperium this morning and I sorely wish the Nurgle stuff and the Flying Lobsters were going to be more popular, 'cos I'd love to swap them for more of the basic Restartes - making truescale Proper Marines is going to be a breeze compared to prior methods.

Anecdote warning and what not, but I smirk every time I read this because there literally aren't enough people willing to sell the Nurgle half to meet the demand of people asking for it locally.

I know it's not a broader "issue", but it's still funny to me that people thing it's not popular enough.

I was just going by how little interest I've found and the tendency for Primaris, in particular the Lieutenants and foot infantry, to go out of stock well before the Nurgle stuff and the flying Restartes blokes on bitz sites. I'm not saying they're unpopular, just less popular enough that I can't get rid of mine unless I'm willing to agree to a wildly disproportionate swap ratio.

Yeah, it's definitely a regional thing, and to be fair, it's really only the Poxwalkers the locals are interested in obtaining.

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Here's a piece of art from the rulebook allegedly showing new apothecary:

Spoiler:

Not a fan of the tool the Apothecary is using there, always loved it more that everything was mounted on the wrist as a nasty medical swiss army device.

What I do like is what's happening in the background: the Imperial Fists throwing chaos marines into the abyss.

 sockwithaticket wrote:

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Here's a piece of art from the rulebook allegedly showing new apothecary:

Spoiler:

Don't care about the Apothecary, but those medical servotors are brilliant. Hopefully we get some models for them.

At first glance they reminded me of Zoidberg...

I just like the guy in the back hurling the body/corpse off the ledge.

I like that in the art the 'bigger' primaris are the same size as chaos space marines...hmmmmm.

For reference, "ancient" is also an archaic term for a flag or ensign, as well as the person who was the standard bearer for a commander. For example, Iago is referred to as Othello's ancient.

There haven't been Primaris Chaplains hinted at yet, so if I had to guess, the two clampack characters that Hastings hinted at are the Apothecary and Librarian.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I like that in the art the 'bigger' primaris are the same size as chaos space marines...hmmmmm.

Chaos Primaris confirmed.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
The actual Marines OTOH, crikey they're something. Got my Dark Imperium this morning and I sorely wish the Nurgle stuff and the Flying Lobsters were going to be more popular, 'cos I'd love to swap them for more of the basic Restartes - making truescale Proper Marines is going to be a breeze compared to prior methods.

Anecdote warning and what not, but I smirk every time I read this because there literally aren't enough people willing to sell the Nurgle half to meet the demand of people asking for it locally.

I know it's not a broader "issue", but it's still funny to me that people thing it's not popular enough.

I personally can't wait for GW to release the "lite" version of the starter box so I can bolster both forces on the cheap.

I thought the release was the codex, 4 infantry kits, 2 vehicles, 1 flyer and some clampack characters?

If no one's posted that here then just ignore that.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I like that in the art the 'bigger' primaris are the same size as chaos space marines...hmmmmm.

Chaos Primaris confirmed.

Ah! Never Understimate Fabius Bile work!

mortar_crew wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I like that in the art the 'bigger' primaris are the same size as chaos space marines...hmmmmm.

Chaos Primaris confirmed.

Ah! Never Understimate Fabius Bile work!

Indeed, his "New Men" from the Corax novellas were bigger than Corax himself.

 Elbows wrote:
I would not put it beyond them...at all. I can see almost everything in the game being re-named/modified. They seem to be on a huge high doing that.

Why in the flying feth does a standard bearer have to be an "Ancient" all of a sudden? (a name oddly applied to a brand new baby space marine...) Sadly with this kind of stuff they're doing more damage to the lore/fluff than good.

Ancient makes sense because it is the British army rank for a standard bearer. Some counties also call them ensigns. It is the same rank. Ancient has been used since the Nepolionic era if memory serves me well.

Also, the company standard bearer (at least in the Ultramarines) has been an Ancient since 1994's 2nd edition Codex: Ultramarines. 22years is hardly "all of a sudden".

I think the point people are making (at least I know it was what I was making) was a re-naming of traditional units to something more...unique. It's unique/Latin/pseudo-Latin, ala names like Astra Militarum. For example, Intercessors are just tactical marines with upsized bolters. Ancient is not a new name for Space Marines, but codifying the previous unit called "Standard Bearer" to "Ancient" would be a chance. It seems to be part of GA's ongoing MO to make naming less generic.

Looking at the knee pads it seems to be a primarus medic. awesome.

i hope those servitors can run around healing all the things.

 MLaw wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
The actual Marines OTOH, crikey they're something. Got my Dark Imperium this morning and I sorely wish the Nurgle stuff and the Flying Lobsters were going to be more popular, 'cos I'd love to swap them for more of the basic Restartes - making truescale Proper Marines is going to be a breeze compared to prior methods.

Anecdote warning and what not, but I smirk every time I read this because there literally aren't enough people willing to sell the Nurgle half to meet the demand of people asking for it locally.

I know it's not a broader "issue", but it's still funny to me that people thing it's not popular enough.

I personally can't wait for GW to release the "lite" version of the starter box so I can bolster both forces on the cheap.

Wait, what?

That's going to be a thing?

 Arbitrator wrote:

Wait, what?

That's going to be a thing?

Well they did do so with the cultests in the DV box

and all the horus heresy boxes they also released all the individual units. but those are all individualized sprues.

expect to see modular adeptus restarties and dead guard.

pox walkers and the butt drone will probably be the same.

and all the characters in their own boxes.

With the sprue layout it wouldn't surprise me to see the DI models repacked as Start Collecting style boxes for the DG and Primaris in the future.

 Arbitrator wrote:

 MLaw wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
The actual Marines OTOH, crikey they're something. Got my Dark Imperium this morning and I sorely wish the Nurgle stuff and the Flying Lobsters were going to be more popular, 'cos I'd love to swap them for more of the basic Restartes - making truescale Proper Marines is going to be a breeze compared to prior methods.

Anecdote warning and what not, but I smirk every time I read this because there literally aren't enough people willing to sell the Nurgle half to meet the demand of people asking for it locally.

I know it's not a broader "issue", but it's still funny to me that people thing it's not popular enough.

I personally can't wait for GW to release the "lite" version of the starter box so I can bolster both forces on the cheap.

Wait, what?

That's going to be a thing?

They have done it with the Starter of AoS. They removed the Stormcast Eternal Hero in the dracoth and two Khorne heroes (the standard bearer and the Lord with the dog) and down the price to Start Collecting! prices. (In euros, it go down from 100€ to 65€, so 35€. The problem is that the heroes are separated 32,50€ for the two Khorne ones or the Stormcast one, but if you don't want those heroes, is better value)

Didn't it take them 2 or more years to separate out the AoS and 7th edition 40k starters if I'm not too far off the mark.

 privateer4hire wrote:
Didn't it take them 2 or more years to separate out the AoS and 7th edition 40k starters if I'm not too far off the mark.

I don't think they ever DID seperate out the 6th edition 40k starter (remember 6th and 7th shared a starter)

 privateer4hire wrote:
Didn't it take them 2 or more years to separate out the AoS and 7th edition 40k starters if I'm not too far off the mark.

Kind of?

We got plastic kits for basically everything barring the characters within a year. The Khorne side will still be missing a Khorgorath and Bloodstoker(the whip guy) outside of boxes.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 privateer4hire wrote:
Didn't it take them 2 or more years to separate out the AoS and 7th edition 40k starters if I'm not too far off the mark.

Kind of?

We got plastic kits for basically everything barring the characters within a year. The Khorne side will still be missing a Khorgorath and Bloodstoker(the whip guy) outside of boxes.

and the 6th/7th edition 40k kit, we never got a kit for the new chosen. (and some people might wanna argue the cultiest kit barely counts) we did however get the helbrute,

that said we've seen sculpts of death guard that don't match whats in the box, and the odds of GW not giving us a proper kit for their new flag ship marines swiftly seems... unlikely.