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You can say that Slaanesh is more loving than Papa Nurgle;

Not sure Slaanesh has ever been described as loving or caring - quite the opposite.

I can see Sisters of Silence being mostly immune, unless overwhelmed by the warp, and Custodes are apparently vulnerable but at time scales that make attempting to possess them pointless for any daemon that needs to be doing something else for 10,000 years.

 Mr Morden wrote:

You can say that Slaanesh is more loving than Papa Nurgle;

Not sure Slaanesh has ever been described as loving or caring - quite the opposite.

I thought the same thing at first, but... that's not really the point the post was making.

None of them are immune to the warp, some are resistant to the influence of chaos but that is it, a Custodes can be possessed like any other being it is just much much harder for the demon (ref: master of mankind), sisters are just warp resistant humans due to their innate psychic powers and the resistance that gives them and Grey Knights are overt psykers that undergo extreme psycho indoctrination and mental training on top of their psychic training, but even they are not immune.

Nothing is immune to chaos, just varying degrees of resistance.

 Conservative Heretic wrote:
I think part of the reason as to why there are no corrupted Custodes is that most were exposed to it to a very limited extent, if at all, for all this time. It's kinda hard to fall prey to chaos if you've barely interacted with it. As for grey knights, I would think that there would be corrupted individuals since they are exposed to chaos the most out of any imperial faction.

Custodes during the heresy were actively posted in the Webway fighting the Daemons pouring from the Warp into Terra after Magnus accidentally shattered it.


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 Super Ready wrote:
I'll accept the Death Guard's case is debatable, but... to me it's not much of a choice. The alternative was an indeterminate continuation of floating in the void, and eventually, death or possession, or conversion into Plaguebearers and the like anyway.
It's a lot like how people under interrogation or torture will often confess to things they never did, or even start believing that they did them.

And yet, Custodes, Grey Knights, and perhaps even Battle Sisters would have chosen being stranded or killed.

Mortarion's situation and his choice in that regard might be understandable, but it was his choice.

A more interesting question is: did the other Death Guard actually get to make that choice, or was it made for them by Mortarion? I don't actually know.


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Kayback wrote:

Like I said in my post, Dunning Kruger. Look at "Flat Earthers" doing "High IQ research" on Youtube. Thinking you're smarter than you are isn't very cerebral. I'm willing to bet most of the people unlocking the secrets of the warp aren't anywhere near as smart or as good as they think they are. Look at the Thousand Sons as an example. They didn't even know they were in the service of Tzeentch. Look at Ahriman and his Rubric.

Not being as clever as you think you are doesn't mean you're not clever.

Ahriman will never fix the Rubric and is deluding himself by trying, but he's still considerably more intelligent than, say, Lucius the Eternal, a preening idiot whose swagger far outstrips his actual competence and has literally being saved from getting himself killed by his patron deity as an integral facet of his lore.

 Void__Dragon wrote:


Not being as clever as you think you are doesn't mean you're not clever.

Ahriman will never fix the Rubric and is deluding himself by trying, but he's still considerably more intelligent than, say, Lucius the Eternal, a preening idiot whose swagger far outstrips his actual competence and has literally being saved from getting himself killed by his patron deity as an integral facet of his lore.

Oh for sure. I wasn't trying to say the all Tzeentch are simpletons or that all Slaaneshi are highbrow thinkers. I was more trying to say worshiping Tzeentch doesn't automatically mean you're intelligent. A fool and his soul are soon parted. Nor are all Slaanesh worshipers unthinking hedonists. A lot of thought goes into being able to experience things to excess, even debauchery.

It was not quite tongue in cheek but it was bordering on it.

With the Lucius vs Ahriman example, yes Lucius is a preening idiot who over values his martial skills amd Ahriman has book knowledge but could the same fate await someone who is as proud of their mental acumen and obvious superiority? The Chaos Gods realms do appear to overlap.

None have fallen because Imperial records are doctored to state none have fallen.

Like the Custodes are always stated to win every battle in the records automatically. Even if in reality they lose.

The official line is that these organisations don't have people falling to Chaos. The reality is there are none left alive who have fallen

Sisters of the Ebon Chalice have fallen, also Bloody Rose. Read your fluff, it happens all the time.

And Custodes are mini walking Primarchs, while none have ever fallen, they still can. Clearly stated in both books they worry about that constantly.

Grey Knights are literally the only ones who are seemingly impervious. So to answer the thread, no, there aren't too many. There is only 1, and the lore writing behind them is so bad that it's a universal joke in 40k.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Sisters of the Ebon Chalice have fallen, also Bloody Rose. Read your fluff, it happens all the time.

And Custodes are mini walking Primarchs, while none have ever fallen, they still can. Clearly stated in both books they worry about that constantly.

Grey Knights are literally the only ones who are seemingly impervious. So to answer the thread, no, there aren't too many. There is only 1, and the lore writing behind them is so bad that it's a universal joke in 40k.

Again why is there this myth about GKs - their own Codex states that there is varying levels of protection and that they have to take special precautions / only one can carry a specific sword or be corrupted so they are obviously not immune. Plus being a psychic both gives the Warp another way in and any GK can in theory miscast.

At elast one GK is currently an limbless psychic battery for the Word Bearers - how long before he is a corrupted mess?

No mortal should be / is immune - with the possible exception of total Blanks.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Sisters of the Ebon Chalice have fallen, also Bloody Rose. Read your fluff, it happens all the time.

And Custodes are mini walking Primarchs, while none have ever fallen, they still can. Clearly stated in both books they worry about that constantly.

Grey Knights are literally the only ones who are seemingly impervious. So to answer the thread, no, there aren't too many. There is only 1, and the lore writing behind them is so bad that it's a universal joke in 40k.

I remember FezzikDaBullgryn stating completely false information about the Reign of Blood and how it happened, so I'm advising everyone not to take what he say for granted unless there is a direct quote.
I mean, FezzikDaBullgryn stated that Custodes murdered Sisters during the Reign of Blood when every sources contradict that, and then completely refused to acknowledge that he was wrong. So I 100% advise ignoring his "Sisters of the Ebon Chalice and Bloody Rose have fallen" unless he provides some source.

The idea the Sisters are incorruptible to some inhuman degree is a very un-40k idea. Religious fanaticism, or any extreme display of emotion, leads to Chaos in one way or another (except maybe compassion, but people in the 40k universe don't feel that smh).

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Even blanks should be able to be tricked and seduced into the service of Chaos despite the Dark Gods not being able to grant them gifts directly.