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2023/04/17 17:33:01
Subject: Re:Louise 'Sugs' Sugden leaves GW & has new YT painting channel - Rogue Hobbies
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- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2023/04/18 07:31:21
Subject: Louise 'Sugs' Sugden leaves GW & has new YT painting channel - Rogue Hobbies
Tyranid Horde wrote: I wish her all the best, she's a great painter and personality.
Interested to see who she is replaced by at GeeDubs.
A hand with no face. A disembodied voice.
Someone I spoke to came up with the idea of getting a very distinguishable tattoo on their hand. Or even a tattoo of a picture of their face on their hand.
Tsagualsa wrote: The competition sits on a sliding scale, if they e.g. use competitors colours in their side buisnesses, or recommend products that don't come from GW, or are painting stuff on commisison that's outside of what GW would allow and so on. Anything that leads to a variant of 'Hey this GW-person says brand XY paints are much better than GW, and cheaper too' or something like that. It is draconian no doubt, but one can understand where they're coming from.
remember the famous White Dwarf picture of the GW painting team with non-GW colours in the background on the working table
or that GW painters telling people behind the scenes that Citadel Colours suck and they are not using them at all but tell/show people using them for marketing
hence of course this is a problem, as even if those information are outdated and they only use Citadel now for promo-models, people are still using other brands for their own models, and have always done this
now it is much more critical as in the past as the marketing has reached the community that Citadel are the best of the best and no other brand comes close (and they are cheaper for a reason), and people now people seeing that all this not being true is not something GW wants
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2023/04/18 08:27:49
Subject: Louise 'Sugs' Sugden leaves GW & has new YT painting channel - Rogue Hobbies
oni wrote: Perhaps someone mentioned this, but I'm curious if any or perhaps all of these individuals would have continued at GW if they were permitted to have their YouTube channel while also working at GW.
It seems like this 'no side job' policy at GW is the root of the problem.
I absolutely doubt it's for this reason, but thinking about it, by switching to anonymous presenters, it means there's now no reason those presenters couldn't have their own channels as they wouldn't be linked to GW. I'd imagine the policy remains the same though.
2023/04/18 08:42:16
Subject: Louise 'Sugs' Sugden leaves GW & has new YT painting channel - Rogue Hobbies
oni wrote: Perhaps someone mentioned this, but I'm curious if any or perhaps all of these individuals would have continued at GW if they were permitted to have their YouTube channel while also working at GW.
It seems like this 'no side job' policy at GW is the root of the problem.
I absolutely doubt it's for this reason, but thinking about it, by switching to anonymous presenters, it means there's now no reason those presenters couldn't have their own channels as they wouldn't be linked to GW. I'd imagine the policy remains the same though.
I strongly believe that "no side Jobs" is probably very clear on the contract. This is GW we are talking about here and many companies in the UK that are a lot more flexible than GW also have that.
GW's poor wages are the biggest issue IMO. Lots of creatives would prefer the security of a regular monthly pay packet, and accept the restrictions associated with that, as long as the pay was good enough.
Ian Sturrock wrote: GW's poor wages are the biggest issue IMO. Lots of creatives would prefer the security of a regular monthly pay packet, and accept the restrictions associated with that, as long as the pay was good enough.
It's also the fact that a lot of people nowadays run Patreons, and due to it somewhat-transparent nature, you can guesstimate (a very rose-tinted version of) what you're leaving on the table by taking the safe corporate money. On the face of it, making multiple to ten-thousand pounds a month seems very attractive, especially if you're not aware that the platforms themselves take a hefty cut and you'll be paying all sorts of staff or freelancers and random expenses for assorted work like doing taxes, web hosting, video stuff etc. etc., but even if you're abstractly aware of these costs the sheer number on a page looks extremely enticing.
2023/04/18 12:15:04
Subject: Re:Louise 'Sugs' Sugden leaves GW & has new YT painting channel - Rogue Hobbies
Soundtheory wrote: That's funny - YT actually "recommended" her video to me, and I watched, liked it, and subbed. Had no idea she was an ex-GW employee!
Me too!! I simply went...OOOHH looky, a video about the oft unmentioned Rainbow Warriors!
It was only when i found this very thread i learned she was ex-GW.
P.S. I am absolutely convinced by the whole Tzeenchian Renegades theory
2023/04/19 00:09:06
Subject: Louise 'Sugs' Sugden leaves GW & has new YT painting channel - Rogue Hobbies
oni wrote: Perhaps someone mentioned this, but I'm curious if any or perhaps all of these individuals would have continued at GW if they were permitted to have their YouTube channel while also working at GW.
It seems like this 'no side job' policy at GW is the root of the problem.
I absolutely doubt it's for this reason, but thinking about it, by switching to anonymous presenters, it means there's now no reason those presenters couldn't have their own channels as they wouldn't be linked to GW. I'd imagine the policy remains the same though.
I strongly believe that "no side Jobs" is probably very clear on the contract. This is GW we are talking about here and many companies in the UK that are a lot more flexible than GW also have that.
All 4 companies I worked for as a corporate accountant/analyst over 14 years in the UK had a "you require our permission for a side job" clauses,which I invoked once..... to work as a Key Timer for GW before the Great Key Timer Purge
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2023/04/21 17:56:04
Subject: Re:Louise 'Sugs' Sugden leaves GW & has new YT painting channel - Rogue Hobbies
For these people still interested in her reasons for leaving GW, she now made her own video on the subject and on how her new label came into existence:
2023/04/21 18:16:20
Subject: Louise 'Sugs' Sugden leaves GW & has new YT painting channel - Rogue Hobbies
Really liked that video! Some painful parts for her to start opening up about here and there; but overall a really positive outlook on the past, present and future and sounds like she's found herself a role that's both something she loves doing and is going to be more suitable for her as a person.
It was a great, honest and open video, I wish our hobby goblin nothing but the best going forward, she's one of the few I follow across social media and when she posts, it's always fun to see pop up on my timeline.
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2023/04/22 12:23:36
Subject: Re:Louise 'Sugs' Sugden leaves GW & has new YT painting channel - Rogue Hobbies
Not bad for a lass who first got noticed for painting ability on 4chan of all places. (Anonymous internet forums! )
Looks like she's landed on her feet well after her departure from GW, so good on her! I don't have many channels saved on my youtube, but hers will definitely be one of them.