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 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Do I need to watch Falcon and the Winter Soldier before watching the new Captain America?

I wouldn't say you HAVE to. But it isn't a bad idea. I would even go so far as to say i recommend it.

Sam (falcon) goes through some gak to accept the mantle of Cap. It introduces a character from the comics and tied to the past of the super soldier program who is in this movie for a bit. And it introduces U.S. Agent which ties straight into the upcoming Thunderbolts. So you are preping for 2 movies in 1.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Do I need to watch Falcon and the Winter Soldier before watching the new Captain America?

It'll fill you in on who two of Sams supporting characters are. But you can get by with just reading a wiki on them/about F&WS.

Not really.The only things from this movie that were introduced in the Winter Falcon are;

 AduroT wrote:
Not really.The only things from this movie that were introduced in the Winter Falcon are;

Spoiler:

Sam has an over eager sidekick he picked up from the US military.

The Wakandans made him a Vibranium suit and wings.

Falcon and Winter Solder was better than expected, better than Secret Invasion certainly.

To be fair, I think a gakky Sony film casting a spider-man villain is better than Secret Invasion. No one in particular. Just grab one and it's still better

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Falcon and Winter Solder was better than expected, better than Secret Invasion certainly.

The YouTube channel that crushes random objects with a pneumatic press is better TV than Secret Invasion.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Falcon and Winter Solder was better than expected, better than Secret Invasion certainly.

The YouTube channel that crushes random objects with a pneumatic press is better TV than Secret Invasion.

But is it better than Will it Blend? Where we learn that yes, billard balls can be pureed.

My low point in MCU films is still the Marvels.

Marvels was actually fun and fine in my opinion. The actual worst film itself has felt like Eternals to me. No joy, the characters were meh, no real tie-in and the treatment of the films post Eternals didn't do anything for it either.

TV show wise I didn't manage to finish Echo or Secret Invasion. I'm not sure which was worse to be honest but I lean to it being Secret Invasion.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Marvels was actually fun and fine in my opinion. The actual worst film itself has felt like Eternals to me. No joy, the characters were meh, no real tie-in and the treatment of the films post Eternals didn't do anything for it either.

TV show wise I didn't manage to finish Echo or Secret Invasion. I'm not sure which was worse to be honest but I lean to it being Secret Invasion.

I forgot that Eternals was an MCU film.

I’d put Marvels above Thor 4, Dr Strange 2 or Antman 3 just as fluffy entertainment. The Eternals was probably the worst Marvel movie, but it had enough weird choices to be worth discussing, unlike say Ant-man 3, for example.

Secret Invasion was impressive in that it managed to get geometrically worse as it progressed. Stopping a couple episodes short means you only witnessed about 1/64th of its awfulness.

And Will It Blend is a classic.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Falcon and Winter Solder was better than expected, better than Secret Invasion certainly.

The YouTube channel that crushes random objects with a pneumatic press is better TV than Secret Invasion.

Hey now, the 5 people who liked it would be very mad to hear you say that. In fact, I think there's a couple in this very forum!

I'll never be able to erase the memory of the horrible CGI of Emilia Clarke flexing her Drax muscles in the super skrull fight. How that got past the editing room or any QA for the show boggles my mind. Best example of the worst slop to have come from the MCU.

 Grimskul wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Falcon and Winter Solder was better than expected, better than Secret Invasion certainly.

The YouTube channel that crushes random objects with a pneumatic press is better TV than Secret Invasion.

Hey now, the 5 people who liked it would be very mad to hear you say that. In fact, I think there's a couple in this very forum!

I'll never be able to erase the memory of the horrible CGI of Emilia Clarke flexing her Drax muscles in the super skrull fight. How that got past the editing room or any QA for the show boggles my mind. Best example of the worst slop to have come from the MCU.

I'm having trouble writing a positive review of Secret Invasion, and that's saying something as I wrote a positive review of Morbius and Gladiator II!

…I don’t remember if I finished Echo. I can’t recall how that series ended.

Secret Invasion was awful. I can only imagine it comes down to contractual obligations to finish. I REALLY want to know what happened there, but I suspect it was probably an abandoned Captain Marvel 2 or something.

On that subject, I liked the Marvels well enough. It's like the top of my bottom third of MCU films. It's kind of forgettable but fun. Better than Ant Man 3 and Thor 4. Probably better than Thor 2 and Iron Man 2 even.

Echo was fine, but I never finished Secret Invasion. Since my wife knows a lot of sign language, she really enjoyed Echo a lot.

They killed off Deputy Director Maria Hill for that?

 AduroT wrote:
…I don’t remember if I finished Echo. I can’t recall how that series ended.

Flashy CGI finale & the good guy wins.

Echo is in the category of if you didn't see it? Or didn't finish it? You didn't miss anything.

Hmm... now I don't have to watch these...as I calmly attempt to mind will the powers-that-be to bring back the Punisher with the new Daredevil.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Hmm... now I don't have to watch these...as I calmly attempt to mind will the powers-that-be to bring back the Punisher with the new Daredevil.

Some good news regarding that, it was recently announced he would be making an appearance in Born Again and then afterwards will headline a stand alone special like Werewolf by Night. Bernthal is also helping to write the script along with the director at the helm of the special, Reinaldo Marcus Green.

 ikeulhu wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Hmm... now I don't have to watch these...as I calmly attempt to mind will the powers-that-be to bring back the Punisher with the new Daredevil.

Some good news regarding that, it was recently announced he would be making an appearance in Born Again and then afterwards will headline a stand alone special like Werewolf by Night. Bernthal is also helping to write the script along with the director at the helm of the special, Reinaldo Marcus Green.

That's the best news I've heard in a while. That might make me happier than watching Nicolas Cage as Spider-Man (Which is a high bar. )

Yeah, I would be even happier with a full series, but am pretty pleased to see any more of Bernthal's Punisher that they are willing to throw at us, especially if Disney's recent success with Deadpool + Wolverine makes them more willing to maintain the level of violence one expects from such.