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Not getting the Ranger hate at all. At least the armor doesn’t look like it’s paper thin over her body. It’s actual armor. Oh well. We won’t all like the same stuff. It is what it is.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Personally, I can’t get over the appalling trigger discipline, myself. Just, no, over-inflated space-elf, you only put your finger on the trigger when you are ready to kill the target.
What did that poor ceiling ever do to you?

Eldar guns, last I checked, fired psychically. All of them. Even shuriken weapons.
So, no need for trigger discipline.

 BrookM wrote:
The hatch most likely contains the wetware of the robot.

Possibly but I like the idea of another ratling in there on the controls!

Neronoxx wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Personally, I can’t get over the appalling trigger discipline, myself. Just, no, over-inflated space-elf, you only put your finger on the trigger when you are ready to kill the target.
What did that poor ceiling ever do to you?

Eldar guns, last I checked, fired psychically. All of them. Even shuriken weapons.
So, no need for trigger discipline.

Like the model, most here can't comprehend Eldar. Xenophobic as they are.

Btw, please send me your Rangers if you cannot abide them.

Neronoxx wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Personally, I can’t get over the appalling trigger discipline, myself. Just, no, over-inflated space-elf, you only put your finger on the trigger when you are ready to kill the target.
What did that poor ceiling ever do to you?

Eldar guns, last I checked, fired psychically. All of them. Even shuriken weapons.
So, no need for trigger discipline.

They still have a physical trigger.

Plenty of non-Eldar have been depicted with them, I have a space marine with one somewhere.

 bullyboy wrote:

Neronoxx wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Personally, I can’t get over the appalling trigger discipline, myself. Just, no, over-inflated space-elf, you only put your finger on the trigger when you are ready to kill the target.
What did that poor ceiling ever do to you?

Eldar guns, last I checked, fired psychically. All of them. Even shuriken weapons.
So, no need for trigger discipline.

Like the model, most here can't comprehend Eldar. Xenophobic as they are.

Btw, please send me your Rangers if you cannot abide them.

You know, "we build our guns with triggers that don't actually do anything" doesn't make the Eldar look any smarter.

 Arachnofiend wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:

Neronoxx wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Personally, I can’t get over the appalling trigger discipline, myself. Just, no, over-inflated space-elf, you only put your finger on the trigger when you are ready to kill the target.
What did that poor ceiling ever do to you?

Eldar guns, last I checked, fired psychically. All of them. Even shuriken weapons.
So, no need for trigger discipline.

Like the model, most here can't comprehend Eldar. Xenophobic as they are.

Btw, please send me your Rangers if you cannot abide them.

You know, "we build our guns with triggers that don't actually do anything" doesn't make the Eldar look any smarter.

You've got a safety that requires psychic intent to fire, physical trigger fires the gun, but not without intent. Seems a decent option on a gun and safer than some mechanical lock - in which case trigger discipline is kind of meaningless, or reversed as having your finger on the trigger might focus the mind on the use of the gun.

 Arachnofiend wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:

Neronoxx wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Personally, I can’t get over the appalling trigger discipline, myself. Just, no, over-inflated space-elf, you only put your finger on the trigger when you are ready to kill the target.
What did that poor ceiling ever do to you?

Eldar guns, last I checked, fired psychically. All of them. Even shuriken weapons.
So, no need for trigger discipline.

Like the model, most here can't comprehend Eldar. Xenophobic as they are.

Btw, please send me your Rangers if you cannot abide them.

The triggers do do something. They’re a backup in case of psychic disruption/distress. Know yo Eldar, bros.
You know, "we build our guns with triggers that don't actually do anything" doesn't make the Eldar look any smarter.

Looks neat. The Yr-Ghul dance group is a bit weird as they seem to have the same pose four time, instead of two poses twice as you would expect with a duplicate sprue like in Silver Tower.Odd.

The preacher looks cool, except maybe the pipe in his nose. I never liked those on Genestealer Cultists either, though. The missionary, too. Finally some some modern plastics for the Ecclesiarchy!

I like the robot, and until I see irrefutable proof to the opposite I maintain that there's enough room in the chest for a Squat.

BertBert wrote:
The ranger really is a mystery to me. What's wrong with the legs and feet? The left foot is turned inwards and the right one is tiptoeing like a ballet dancer's pose.

The chest appears to be facing forward and is totally exposed, not something you'd expect form a martial posture. But then again, it doesn't really look like she's preparing to fight either, because she's neither aiming her rifle nor readying her kinve , with both being held uselessly on either side - It's all wrong

It's only wrong if you think of her as a ranger. In truth she's just following the path of the model and presents the latest ranger fall fashion.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Not getting the Ranger hate at all. At least the armor doesn’t look like it’s paper thin over her body. It’s actual armor. Oh well. We won’t all like the same stuff. It is what it is.

I don't think the armor is different from a Guardian's. Maybe slightly improved, given the latter aren't getting any younger and GW's plastic casting itself has improved in the meantime, but stylistically?

Maybe it's just me, though.

BertBert wrote:
The ranger really is a mystery to me. What's wrong with the legs and feet? The left foot is turned inwards and the right one is tiptoeing like a ballet dancer's pose.

The chest appears to be facing forward and is totally exposed, not something you'd expect form a martial posture. But then again, it doesn't really look like she's preparing to fight either, because she's neither aiming her rifle nor readying her kinve , with both being held uselessly on either side - It's all wrong

This has been called an Infinity-esque pose before, but it's really nothing like Infinity at all. Imagine the ranger had either of these poses, for example:




This is what you'd expect a ranger to move like.

I believe they were referring to mind-boggling stuff like this:

 Mymearan wrote:


I believe they were referring to mind-boggling stuff like this:

Fair enough, that pose is silly, but also part of the character:

“Elegance is inborn. Believe me, it ain’t easy being so fething stylish while hauling all this tactical gear.” Miranda Ashcroft, Authorized Bounty Hunter

BertBert wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:


I believe they were referring to mind-boggling stuff like this:

Fair enough, that pose is silly, but also part of the character:

“Elegance is inborn. Believe me, it ain’t easy being so fething stylish while hauling all this tactical gear.” Miranda Ashcroft, Authorized Bounty Hunter

The elegance really doesn't come across in that model very well in my opinion.

Someone mentioned her spirit stone. There's a difference between Illic Nightspear the legendary pathfinder and a random ranger joining a rogue trader to the Blackstone Fortress. Ranger armour is bog standard Guardian armour with a camo cloak.

The lack of a trigger is quite annoying too. Every other ranger model has a trigger.

Worth to remember this ranger is part of the new Cad plastic models.

Where more bling and some other details are added compared to older models (just compare finecast spiritseer with wake the dead one)

Also fluff wise guardian and ranger armor are pretty much a kind of plastic jumpsuit that hardens when impacted with extra armor in some vital areas.

GW has been using CAD software to design its models for over 10 years now.

Eldar weapons are not really supposed to have triggers though, what being activated and ifred psychically.

 Nevelon wrote:

 barboggo wrote:
Everything is awesome except the excessively-sexy-yet-still-weirdly-stiffly-posed ranger. A busty ranger with a design that emphasizes bursting boobs, thighs and stockings was a bad idea to begin with, but on top of that it's not even well executed with the slight pidgeon toed look and the awkward blade arm. It looks like bad 4chan waifu fanart brought to life.

Some of the design elements are straight from the normal rangers:

Spoiler:

Open chest robes, thigh-high leg warmers. giant gem belt buckle. Pose does looks a little goofy, but that might just be the angle. But she does fit in with the established aesthetics.

It's like taking all the element from previous rangers… and botching them up, with terribly weird pose on top of it.
Really find the old one better. The hoods look cool on the old ones, here it looks oversized and, like, more appropriate for a monk-like figure than for a ranger-like one.
The way her robe are overly opened defeat the whole purpose of “I'm a hidden, concealing person” and makes it more like an exhibitionist. I mean, it doesn't conceal any of her leg, and completely expose her torso, and show all of her arms. Compare to the old rangers. Old rangers look like they wear camo capes to be hidden, we don't get this impression from new ranger where it looks, like, ornamental maybe?
The poor color choice + the different shape for the top make the extra leg leather look like thighs attached to a garter-belt in a way that isn't there for Ilic.

The pose is… well, she clearly is standing in the open, not trying to hide (which isn't very rangery). She isn't snipping, and she isn't running or even walking, and she isn't fighting in close combat, she is… I have no idea what she is doing, really. Just standing there?
One of her feet is flat on the ground, the other is not, but the leg position say that she isn't walking, so… why???

BertBert wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:


I believe they were referring to mind-boggling stuff like this:

Fair enough, that pose is silly, but also part of the character:

“Elegance is inborn. Believe me, it ain’t easy being so fething stylish while hauling all this tactical gear.” Miranda Ashcroft, Authorized Bounty Hunter

She doesn't look elegant. She looks like the female character on an Avengers poster, posed for no other purpose than to show that she has a bum.



The ranger's pose is fine. The 'See, I too have weapons' pose is pretty much a staple of GW model design.

Miranda Ashcroft is CLEARLY running AWAY from her opponents, from the pose. Is that part of her character? But that has nothing to do with elegance that's true.

 insaniak wrote:


She doesn't look elegant. She looks like the female character on an Avengers poster, posed for no other purpose than to show that she has a bum.



The ranger's pose is fine. The 'See, I too have weapons' pose is pretty much a staple of GW model design.

My point was not that the pose is great, but that there is an in-lore reason for her to be posing like a movie star - because she kind of is. I agree that the execution is not amazing.

The rangers pose is not fine at all - for me it makes the Ranger the worst model from the set. It is contrary to what you'd expect a ranger to move like and it makes very little sense to be standing like that in the first place.

Try imitating that pose in front of a mirror and you'll see (and feel) what I mean. Pay particular attention to the way legs and feet are arranged

Why are people complaining about the Ranger trigger and/or leg length?

Count the fingers, clearly see the trigger finger above the other three.
The legs are the same length, one leg straight / flat foot, other bent slightly / raised foot

The groupthink hate for the Ranger is a bit surprising and getting ridiculous. The pose is fine.

I would have preferred an aiming pose or at least a low ready pose, but this one given isn't terrible. My biggest criticism of it would be the knife. Why the feth did she allow someone close enough to need it? Lol.

Holding the knife like that must have hurt the wrist, these Eldar and CSM have insane wrist muscle.

 Taarnak wrote:
The groupthink hate for the Ranger is a bit surprising and getting ridiculous. The pose is fine.

Me wonders how many of those who complain about "hero posed" minis also complain about "action posed" minis looking goofy.

My real problem with the Rangers is that with that rebreather on I can't see her yelling like everybody else in the 41st millenium.

What do you mean by "action posed" minis?

 insaniak wrote:
She doesn't look elegant. She looks like the female character on an Avengers poster, posed for no other purpose than to show that she has a bum.

You say that like it is a bad thing. Infinity has the best bums in the business.

I think the ranger's pose kind of has an Masami Obari thing going on. My only problem is that there's no depth on the chest (possibly because of the jewel thing) and it makes the boobs look like lumpy pectorals. Didn't even realize the ranger was female at first.

Generally GW models look two dimensional and wonky in their photos because they change the contrast and photoshop them to death to show up all the detail, but it completely removes any shadows to show any 3D. I'd highly suspect she'll look less awkward in the 360 pics and even less in person. They always do

The ranger pose is probably the most common pose for a GW miniature, legs wide and arms to the side. Very common for single piece metal miniatures.
Makes it easy to cast it.

I assumed she is turning to face an enemy who has come upon her when she was using her rifle.

Looks good to me.

40k points cost for the units. Looks like we're getting datasheets from them in the box.