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So even saying that Rubrics shouldn't get anything new because there are not many left... just to let you know, in the codex it states there are nearly 1,000 sorcerers in the Thousand Sons and THOUSANDS of Rubrics.

*EDIT: My bad. There are 9 Cults. Each Cult has HUNDREDS of Sorcerers and THOUSANDS of Rubrics. EACH.

The cults definitely should've gotten representation, but sadly they don't seem to be offering that level of customization to the sub factions. I get the logic they were going with, but when each subfaction's army list is so different than the main one you feel like some other options for CTs wouldn't be amiss.

I mean that makes sense numerically.

At TERRA there were 10,000 Sons. if Forgeworlds numbers are to be taken as fact here for this discussion.

I agree that rubrics needed more, I expect an FAQ clearing up at least 1 of these issues, and possibly more.

I think Scarab Occult will feature heavily in lists where Rubrics do not, though I still think rubrics are decent for what they are. lord knows we have the buffs to make em great.

 nintura wrote:
So even saying that Rubrics shouldn't get anything new because there are not many left... just to let you know, in the codex it states there are nearly 1,000 sorcerers in the Thousand Sons and THOUSANDS of Rubrics.

*EDIT: My bad. There are 9 Cults. Each Cult has HUNDREDS of Sorcerers and THOUSANDS of Rubrics. EACH.

LOL When you screw up and put that there are Thousands of Rubric Marines and have 1 unit... Not to mention where did those Rubrics come from?

Ahriman21 wrote:
I mean that makes sense numerically.

At TERRA there were 10,000 Sons. if Forgeworlds numbers are to be taken as fact here for this discussion.

I agree that rubrics needed more, I expect an FAQ clearing up at least 1 of these issues, and possibly more.

I think Scarab Occult will feature heavily in lists where Rubrics do not, though I still think rubrics are decent for what they are. lord knows we have the buffs to make em great.

Tbh I think if t sons become competitive the only way you will see rubrics will be 5 man spam for more smite, I just don't see scarabs being of any value really.

I dunno, I'm liking the look of the "two wound army". The list I have prepared for when my book comes in has nothing you can shoot at other than cultists, SOT's, and Tzaangor Enlightened.

As a glutton for pain I will be doing 2 forces, one pure Tsons and the other pure Tzans with a counts as sorcerer Hq.

At the moment I don't plan on mixing them as I want to get a good handle on each part of the forces until I do.

A mutually beneficial buff tying a single squad of Rubrics to an Exalted Sorcerer would have made so much sense. Would have been really fluffy too.

Backspacehacker wrote:

Ahriman21 wrote:
I mean that makes sense numerically.

At TERRA there were 10,000 Sons. if Forgeworlds numbers are to be taken as fact here for this discussion.

I agree that rubrics needed more, I expect an FAQ clearing up at least 1 of these issues, and possibly more.

I think Scarab Occult will feature heavily in lists where Rubrics do not, though I still think rubrics are decent for what they are. lord knows we have the buffs to make em great.

Tbh I think if t sons become competitive the only way you will see rubrics will be 5 man spam for more smite, I just don't see scarabs being of any value really.

Scrabs are extreamly durable espically when buffed and put in cover. 2+ Armor save vs AP -2 is nothing to scoff at, and because you can DS them you can just make sure you take out all the things that will be very effective agianst you first, and leave only the things someone would really not want to shoot at them. With Glamor of Tzeentch coupled with Weaver of Fate on them you can't use low volume high strength shots to kill them because you will end up killing only 1 or 2. Buffing them with Prescience and VotLW while taking Hellfyre Missle Racks will allow you to do on average 9 wounds per 5 taken, leave the Soul Reapers at home though since they don't really add any shots and bump the price up by a bit.

I'm really liking the possibilities of SOT being able to deep strike with a supporting Sorc in TA for buffs. Then having an Exalted on a disc with the DMC to teleport a sqaud as needed.

hazefrog wrote:
A mutually beneficial buff tying a single squad of Rubrics to an Exalted Sorcerer would have made so much sense. Would have been really fluffy too.

Yes but how many Tzaangors would that sell.

None, but it might help push some exalted who REALLY can't sell.

I mean, they come 3 in a box, and an army list is troubled to find room for even 1. NOBODY will ever run 3 exalted as things stand.

 BoomWolf wrote:
None, but it might help push some exalted who REALLY can't sell.

I mean, they come 3 in a box, and an army list is troubled to find room for even 1. NOBODY will ever run 3 exalted as things stand.

lol no they wont. Which is why in the codex or community page, they advertise using them as Aspiring sorcerers parts to differentiate your squads.

 BoomWolf wrote:
None, but it might help push some exalted who REALLY can't sell.

I mean, they come 3 in a box, and an army list is troubled to find room for even 1. NOBODY will ever run 3 exalted as things stand.

You can easily run the foot Exalted as normal Sorcerers or Aspiring Sorcerers. Or use the parts for a wealth of conversion bits.

Indeed, that's what I plan to do. I'll be using the two foot Exalted as converted Aspiring Sorcerers for my old 3rd edition Rubric squads.

 BoomWolf wrote:
None, but it might help push some exalted who REALLY can't sell.

I mean, they come 3 in a box, and an army list is troubled to find room for even 1. NOBODY will ever run 3 exalted as things stand.

But all they need is for you to run 1 and you have to buy the box.

Just like the Sorc in TA it comes in a 60 dollar box with a bunch of Termies. So to get 1 model you have to pay 60 dollars, and get a bunch of models you don't want.

 Thousand-Son-Sorcerer wrote:

 BoomWolf wrote:
None, but it might help push some exalted who REALLY can't sell.

I mean, they come 3 in a box, and an army list is troubled to find room for even 1. NOBODY will ever run 3 exalted as things stand.

But all they need is for you to run 1 and you have to buy the box.

Just like the Sorc in TA it comes in a 60 dollar box with a bunch of Termies. So to get 1 model you have to pay 60 dollars, and get a bunch of models you don't want.

The Terminator Sorcerer is a dual kit with the Terminator Lord. So $25 for the model.

Who on his right mind buys the exalted kit for just 1 exalted? so much better to buy some bits, or heck split a kit with someone or two.

Or the entire termi box for one termi sorcerer?

Finally getting to read through my codex in detail. So far, I'm at the individual units descriptions and they've mentioned Tzaangors one time and a Mutalith one time buried in the timeline.

Deeefinitely pushing those tzaangors super hard amirite?

I love how there's no actual direct photo of the mutalith. He's always in the background and off to the side.

 Thousand-Son-Sorcerer wrote:


But all they need is for you to run 1 and you have to buy the box.

Just like the Sorc in TA it comes in a 60 dollar box with a bunch of Termies. So to get 1 model you have to pay 60 dollars, and get a bunch of models you don't want.

What is it with you and lying about how much particular models actually cost?
There are various Sorcerer models stocked by Games Workshop, you can buy one and convert him with spare parts from the Rubric Marine/Scarab Occult kits. You don't need to buy the Exalted Sorcerer kit if you plan on running just 1 Exalted Sorcerer.
A Sorcerer Lord can be purchased separately to a Terminator squad.
On top of this, you were complaining in the other thread that buying an army of Tzaangors would cost you upwards of $700 (presumably Canadian or American dollars given your location) if you wanted to add just them to whatever Rubrics and Scarab Occult you already own. To actually reach that kind of number, you'd have to buy them exclusively from the Changecult box - which is an inefficient way to get Tzaangors - or buy over 10 boxes of them, and who needs 100+ Tzaangors in their competitive army list?

Caederes wrote:

What is it with you and lying about how much particular models actually cost?

It fit's his narrative about how bad everything regarding Thousand Sons is.
#alternativefacts and all that...

 MinscS2 wrote:

Caederes wrote:

What is it with you and lying about how much particular models actually cost?

It fit's his narrative about how bad everything regarding Thousand Sons is.
#alternativefacts and all that...

This exactly. The codex turned out fine, so now he has resorted to just blatantly making things up to fit his view. It's really not surprising, at all.

Yea, kina pisses me off that his false cases and general tone makes any actual valid complaints anyone else tries to bring up look bad as it is piled with him...

ITT TS players who dont know any of the army lore beyond the HH kinda laughable and sad at the same time as a brother of the sons its kinda embarassing to be associated with them too

Mesokhornee wrote:
ITT TS players who dont know any of the army lore beyond the HH kinda laughable and sad at the same time

this