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warl0rdb0b wrote: Has anyone seen anything on Orkimedes? I've just been sent a fairly convincing image of him for the Armageddon release.
It's AI. You can tell because unlike how GW uses clear, repeated iconography and design elements across a faction it has bits that are just weird melted shapes.
I fell for it. The transparent brain dome should've given it away. Ah well. Getting old.
warl0rdb0b wrote: Has anyone seen anything on Orkimedes? I've just been sent a fairly convincing image of him for the Armageddon release.
It's AI. You can tell because unlike how GW uses clear, repeated iconography and design elements across a faction it has bits that are just weird melted shapes.
I fell for it. The transparent brain dome should've given it away. Ah well. Getting old.
Saw your FB of it. The left hand has The Dreaded Finglers.
Two Thumbs Fresh indeed. Yes, I expect only a select few Dakkanauts to get that reference.
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warl0rdb0b wrote: Has anyone seen anything on Orkimedes? I've just been sent a fairly convincing image of him for the Armageddon release.
It's AI. You can tell because unlike how GW uses clear, repeated iconography and design elements across a faction it has bits that are just weird melted shapes.
I fell for it. The transparent brain dome should've given it away. Ah well. Getting old.
Yeah, there were a few things that didn't sit right with me, but my brain was too tired to work out what they were. The friend that sent it to me was utterly convinced it was real though, until the details were pointed out.
Selfcontrol wrote: Given the huge number of units now present on the battlefield, with a few rare exceptions, taking a plasma pistol instead of a laspistol has no impact on the course of a game. This made sense when a 1000 points army was made up of fewer than 30 regular CSM, a Dreadnought, and a Chaos Lord (I still have my old Codex City Fight and this is what a 1000 CSM used to be) : every single loss was felt.
Nowadays, not so much.
I try really hard not to get caught up in pistol arguments. Most units do not at any point fire their pistols during a game. The value of one special pistol is so incrementally small its basically impossible for it to have a meaningful impact on the points value of the unit.
That said, I think there are places where GW found niches for weapons and places they clearly failed. Often times its very clear that they overvalued a single extra attack for a huge number of weapons and basically every weapon that was relying on Dev Wounds got abandoned when GW realized how dangerous the tools they provided to enable that rule were (Oath/Eldar/Etc). There are also weapons that were clearly designed as grunt only that remain Sgt options I assume largely for backward compatability. I do think Las Cannons design largely worked. Melta almost got there but probably just needs a close range STR boost more than DMG.
Looking forward to how they take another swing at things in 11th. I think a lot of weapons are in a good place and a lot that need a total rework. I'm curious to see how GW approaches these kind of things, as it seems like something that you save for a full codex update..
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The pistol is just an example to demonstrate the point. You can make it as big as you want. The Riptide's massive heavy burst cannon never gets taken either because it fundamentally does not fill a useful role whereas the ion accelerator does.
I should also add that every time horde armies have gotten remotely decent in 10th edition GW has obliterated them with nerfs. Tyranid endless swarm, Ork mass boyz builds, etc. GW very clearly doesn't want an environment to exist where guns like the burst cannon are useful, and I don't see how 11th edition is supposed to fix that.
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Overread wrote: GW has already tried to make close combat a flat value no matter weapons. AoS is doing it all the time now and Tyranid Warriors are doing it too
So on that score we could see GW making ranged kits for 40K with loads of different weapons and just a "ranged weapon" stat profile Instead of one per weapon type.
Epic40K was Jervis's favourite system (it wasn't bad at all, though I do prefer Epic Armageddon), so he might still have a few acolytes and Firepower Table in the studio...
Sooo.... any news on when the new Ventari are due to come out?
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BorderCountess wrote: Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
"Vulkan: There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age." "Ferrus: Oh cool, when are you going to stop burning people to death?" "Vulkan: I do not understand the question."
– A conversation between the X and XVIII Primarchs
Seriously I think Ghaz is just treating it like having a playdate now.
It would be funny if that is how he's treating it, unaware in the way Orks are of the frailty and aging of humans
I guess this time it's Deus Ex Wolf Machina for how Yarrick survived.
But yeah, there's precedence for Ghazzy not delivering the killing blow and wanting more of a challenge, so I think he's trying to milk Yarrick for what he's worth by not killing him.
The wolves have built an efficient 'resurrect people after losing to Thraka' medical pipeline when they rebuilt Ragnar, so Yarrick is just par for the course. The wolves are going to sit in orbit resurrecting everyone like DBZ so Armageddon never ends.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Dunno, a steady, measured advance with fortifications left in your wake sounds pretty solid.
Time consuming? Yes. But when you’re Immortal? What does time matter to you.
And how does he plan to garrison them as he moves forward? Or is he going to leave them with understrength garrisons or even empty? His mortal forces are not infinite. Realspace fortifications and weaponry will also require maintenance and ammunition, while troops will need food. How is he going to keep them all supplied (especially if he turns each world into a wasteland of fortifications)? The demands on his forces and logistical train will grow and grow. While he might strip mine worlds initially to raise his fortifications, not sure how he will keep them sustainable in the long run.
You don't need that many troops in a well-fortified garrison and most of them/almost all won't be Iron Warriors but human traitors and lots of servitors. Food? Build some underground algae/fungus/whatever plantations like the Squats or the Valhallans and eat vermin and dead people.
Ah, legends for his BSF character, and not a generic "Man of Iron" with a new model release. For example, Espern, Tadius and Pious returned as a Navigator and Ministorum Priests, respectively. I should have been more specific.
If that art is scale accurate, it looks like Perturabo is at least 40 feet tall to the top of his head, not counting all the servo arms. That would make him as bulky as a Knight. I'm kind of hoping this is some artistic liberty and he's actually about half that size.
Last year was the life size tactical rock.... what does GW have in store for us on this year's April Fool's Day?
BorderCountess wrote: Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
"Vulkan: There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age." "Ferrus: Oh cool, when are you going to stop burning people to death?" "Vulkan: I do not understand the question."
– A conversation between the X and XVIII Primarchs
Lathe Biosas wrote: Last year was the life size tactical rock.... what does GW have in store for us on this year's April Fool's Day?
Steel Legion.
I was expecting something more evil like release dates for all of Dan Abnett's Eisenhorn and Gaunt's Ghosts books.
BorderCountess wrote: Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
"Vulkan: There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age." "Ferrus: Oh cool, when are you going to stop burning people to death?" "Vulkan: I do not understand the question."
– A conversation between the X and XVIII Primarchs
Khorne manifests himself to battle the Ghosts, killing several major characters including That Guy and What's His Name. He's beating down Gaunt who can barely parry the Empire State Building-sized Bloodaxe of Skulls using the Honor Sword of That Dead Dude when suddenly, out of frikking nowhere M'Koll jumps out of the shadows and backstabs Khorne with his Straight Silver. Thus ending the war and in fact all wars everywhere since no one feels bloodlust.
Gaunt is promoted to Assistant Vice Emperor and the Ghosts are sent on another suicide mission.
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
Do you have a quote and citation? I thought firm numbers were never actually given, with GW using the copout of any in-universe listing saying it was just 1 page of a larger listing of forces.
Page 70, this is after a summer of fighting however.
Ashiraya wrote: A colossal one. They dropped its points by 24%, down to 65. They were really miles off base.
That AND they buffed it by giving the lash whip extra attacks rather than keeping it as a separate weapon profile, so it has a lot of value purely from the amount of attacks it puts out alone with up to 12-14 attacks for a single model.