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 Crablezworth wrote:
 gorgon wrote:
Well, they lost a sale here. To be fair, this is much more in line with how GW usually operates.

Maybe someday I'll pick up another Warbringer so I can field a Ruptura maniple. But that's not even my main legio, so.

Anyone know of some third-party options?


This one is great, sadly it's out of stock for obvious reasons but well worth it. The nice part is you can just swap it out with the quake cannon and still leave the quake shells in the back if you want.

https://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/shop/heavy-ordnance-energy-cannon/



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Its no surprise seeing as they did the same thing for the 28mm scaled Warbringer. If you want the 28mm Belicosa Volcano cannon you have to buy a whole $1260 USD titan. That's utterly ridiculous when they sell every other weapon for every other titan class separately (including Warlord Belicosa Cannons ).

This isn't an oversight by any means, anyone that may claim that they simply "forgot" to include the turntable are delusional, GW/FW know damn well what they're doing.

Its actually pretty funny in a messed up way if you think about it lol. Like they're that petty and trashy as a company they need to carry over that same tactic to a scaled down model, because why not?

At the end of the day its unacceptable, and we as consumers should expect more and act on that expectation by not buying any of these bait bits.

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 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
Its no surprise seeing as they did the same thing for the 28mm scaled Warbringer. If you want the 28mm Belicosa Volcano cannon you have to buy a whole $1260 USD titan. That's utterly ridiculous when they sell every other weapon for every other titan class separately (including Warlord Belicosa Cannons ).

This isn't an oversight by any means, anyone that may claim that they simply "forgot" to include the turntable are delusional, GW/FW know damn well what they're doing.

Its actually pretty funny in a messed up way if you think about it lol. Like they're that petty and trashy as a company they need to carry over that same tactic to a scaled down model, because why not?

At the end of the day its unacceptable, and we as consumers should expect more and act on that expectation by not buying any of these bait bits.


Yeah, the 28mm version not being available separately is really odd, the Quake cannon even comes in its own box with a separate instruction sheet and the ammo hoppers have pre made holes for magnetisation (I assume the Belicosa cannon is the same) so it's clearly been designed to be a separate kit, they just don't sell it that way. Would have thought it would be a decent seller on its own as I can imagine a lot of Warbringer owners would buy one, but I can't imagine many people would buy a second Warbringer to get it.

Although I wonder if the Warbringer hasn't sold as well as expected, I got mine on release day and it's numbered somewhere around 225, so seems like they had a lot cast up ready, but I believe that according to the Titan owners club the highest number released is only about 300 and it's been out a couple of years now.
   
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 xttz wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:
Racerguy180 wrote:
This whole thing rubs me the wrong way.

Was seriously thinking about ordering it up until I saw the lack of dias.


It just sucks we're not getting a new head option or arms either.


Should have been a plastic sprue with all of the above. Probably got eaten by the 4th sprue in the warmaster box.


Or sprue #5 on the Imperator


Or the Great Gargant sprue
   
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I'd imagine the missing part is easily printed.

   
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I'd imagine the missing part is easily printed.


But people wishing to buy bits from Forgeworld are probably people who can't print bits at home.

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It's safe to say people wishing to buy anything from Forgeworld are people who can't print anything at home.

Games Workshop are not your friends. They are not a small dev trying their best. They are a multibillion dollar company making calculated decisions about how many costs they can cut, how lazy they can be about relases, and how much they can paywall. They will do it again. Stop giving them money for this. 
   
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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
It's safe to say people wishing to buy anything from Forgeworld are people who can't print anything at home.


Or like to support the company creating the models, and print stuff to improve or expand on them
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
It's safe to say people wishing to buy anything from Forgeworld are people who can't print anything at home.


Or like to support the company creating the models, and print stuff to improve or expand on them


I'll support Forgeworld when they don't demand a premium price for an inferior product, even when comparing them to GW itself.

Games Workshop are not your friends. They are not a small dev trying their best. They are a multibillion dollar company making calculated decisions about how many costs they can cut, how lazy they can be about relases, and how much they can paywall. They will do it again. Stop giving them money for this. 
   
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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Nurglitch wrote:
I'd imagine the missing part is easily printed.


But people wishing to buy bits from Forgeworld are probably people who can't print bits at home.

I can't print bits at home. Usually I print through places like Shapeways, or I pay a local guy with a printer to do it. Doing it locally is much less expensive.

   
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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
It's safe to say people wishing to buy anything from Forgeworld are people who can't print anything at home.


Or like to support the company creating the models, and print stuff to improve or expand on them


I'll support Forgeworld when they don't demand a premium price for an inferior product, even when comparing them to GW itself.


Fine. But don't make barely veiled insults at people that do.
   
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It seems that the enterprising minds at the battlebling store are working on a solution.

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Nice, hopefully we see some cool alternate warbringer carapace weapons.

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Battlebling has suddenly become the best friend to Titanicus players...




I don't know if they are reading what we post here on Dakka, but I'd go crazy if they printed alternative weapons and parts for the Knights and Warhounds. A melee weapon for the Warhound would be incredible.

For now it would be the alternative hound bodies and the fabulous selection of reaver parts, for a first order. No matter what, the reaver blast cannon is a must buy...

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The battlebling stuff is top quality. I placed a small order initially but have just been back for essentially warmaster money.

The print quality is great.

Be back again for the additional warmaster arms and prob some other bits this week.
   
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SamusDrake wrote:
I don't know if they are reading what we post here on Dakka, but I'd go crazy if they printed alternative weapons and parts for the Knights and Warhounds. A melee weapon for the Warhound would be incredible.

They have a number of alternate weapons, mostly for Reavers and Warlords. I suggest you go to their store and check out their selection.


 
   
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 Breotan wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
I don't know if they are reading what we post here on Dakka, but I'd go crazy if they printed alternative weapons and parts for the Knights and Warhounds. A melee weapon for the Warhound would be incredible.

They have a number of alternate weapons, mostly for Reavers and Warlords. I suggest you go to their store and check out their selection.



Thank you, I've already done so.

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 Fraggle wrote:
The battlebling stuff is top quality. I placed a small order initially but have just been back for essentially warmaster money.

The print quality is great.

Be back again for the additional warmaster arms and prob some other bits this week.


If two guys and a few designers can be this industrious fw has no excuse honestly. Quality, fast shipping, good prices and constant innovation.

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While this is a little OT, I can also attest to Battle Bling's quality, quickness, and general good-folks-itude
   
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I too have fallen under the Battlebling spell. The Custodian Head for my Warmaster to be was too good to resist. Threw in some extra plasma weapons for my Warlords and Reaver, and the 'kind of goofy but in a good way' fire control tower.
   
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 Crablezworth wrote:
If two guys and a few designers can be this industrious fw has no excuse honestly.

My guess is it's a question of scale - FW have to get corporate approval to release their products and produce enough to meet demand (I'm aware of the irony here). A couple of guys in a garage can do what they want when they want but often have trouble scaling up (look at Hasslefree, for example).

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You' re expecting too much from FW and SG team, they're so lazy they couldn't even give the atrapos knight a proper pose and open cannon like the resin 28mm version, even though they are resin production and aren't limited by sprue space.

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Chopstick wrote:
You' re expecting too much from FW and SG team, they're so lazy they couldn't even give the atrapos knight a proper pose and open cannon like the resin 28mm version, even though they are resin production and aren't limited by sprue space.


Giving the Graviton Singularity Cannon an "open" appearance wouldn't work in resin due to the how slight the pieces would be. I'm reminded of when they did the Eldar Firestorm for the original Aeronautica, with three tiny barrels that would break at a strong breath. Doing what they did was the right call this time round.
   
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beast_gts wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:
If two guys and a few designers can be this industrious fw has no excuse honestly.

My guess is it's a question of scale - FW have to get corporate approval to release their products and produce enough to meet demand (I'm aware of the irony here). A couple of guys in a garage can do what they want when they want but often have trouble scaling up (look at Hasslefree, for example).


I don't think they need to scale up much, the game only has a limited following, but for a company their size they can do well given how quickly they're able to innovate and release. Battle bling already have weapon arms for the warmaster for sale and there aren't even rules yet

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beast_gts wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:
If two guys and a few designers can be this industrious fw has no excuse honestly.

My guess is it's a question of scale - FW have to get corporate approval to release their products and produce enough to meet demand (I'm aware of the irony here). A couple of guys in a garage can do what they want when they want but often have trouble scaling up (look at Hasslefree, for example).

Yeah, they have no other work, no overhead, no need to plan to produce thousands of bits at once, their job is vastly simpler. Especially seeing GW does all the design work for them and they have zero need for creative types, they can make do with merely capable of slightly rearranging 3D shapes without any need for innovation or concept work.

I like how their bits look but let's not pretend they did anything special here, titan weapons are among simplest possible things to do among all GW games and model ranges...
   
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I'd disagree. Making printable 3D objects is still a rare and surprisingly expensive skill to hire and acquire, even if you're copying stuff. An artist I hire for work would be vastly out of my price range for objects that complex

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 Irbis wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:
If two guys and a few designers can be this industrious fw has no excuse honestly.

My guess is it's a question of scale - FW have to get corporate approval to release their products and produce enough to meet demand (I'm aware of the irony here). A couple of guys in a garage can do what they want when they want but often have trouble scaling up (look at Hasslefree, for example).

Yeah, they have no other work, no overhead, no need to plan to produce thousands of bits at once, their job is vastly simpler. Especially seeing GW does all the design work for them and they have zero need for creative types, they can make do with merely capable of slightly rearranging 3D shapes without any need for innovation or concept work.

I like how their bits look but let's not pretend they did anything special here, titan weapons are among simplest possible things to do among all GW games and model ranges...


Plenty of unique offerings, pretending it's all carbon copy of things fw doesn't even sell is exactly as empty as it looks. They already offer the missing mount fw decided not to sell, how they choose to leave money on the table is of not interest to the end buyer. Both vanguard and battlebling offer better solutions.


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Nurglitch wrote:
I'd disagree. Making printable 3D objects is still a rare and surprisingly expensive skill to hire and acquire, even if you're copying stuff. An artist I hire for work would be vastly out of my price range for objects that complex


It certainly requires skill to make nice models without much failure rate.



But there's also the issue that free files of this weapon in its entirety are and were available months ago.

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 Crablezworth wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:
If two guys and a few designers can be this industrious fw has no excuse honestly.

My guess is it's a question of scale - FW have to get corporate approval to release their products and produce enough to meet demand (I'm aware of the irony here). A couple of guys in a garage can do what they want when they want but often have trouble scaling up (look at Hasslefree, for example).

Yeah, they have no other work, no overhead, no need to plan to produce thousands of bits at once, their job is vastly simpler. Especially seeing GW does all the design work for them and they have zero need for creative types, they can make do with merely capable of slightly rearranging 3D shapes without any need for innovation or concept work.

I like how their bits look but let's not pretend they did anything special here, titan weapons are among simplest possible things to do among all GW games and model ranges...


Plenty of unique offerings, pretending it's all carbon copy of things fw doesn't even sell is exactly as empty as it looks. They already offer the missing mount fw decided not to sell, how they choose to leave money on the table is of not interest to the end buyer. Both vanguard and battlebling offer better solutions.


I think it's pretty obvious Forgeworld decided to NOT include the missing mount to get people to buy another Titan if they want a diffrent carapace gun, no matter how dumb of an idea that was.

Games Workshop are not your friends. They are not a small dev trying their best. They are a multibillion dollar company making calculated decisions about how many costs they can cut, how lazy they can be about relases, and how much they can paywall. They will do it again. Stop giving them money for this. 
   
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 Crablezworth wrote:
But there's also the issue that free files of this weapon in its entirety are and were available months ago.


Pardon me, I'm not very smart; how is that an issue?

   
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Nurglitch wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:
But there's also the issue that free files of this weapon in its entirety are and were available months ago.


Pardon me, I'm not very smart; how is that an issue?


I think he is trying to point out that though you and I may not have the skills, there are plenty of people who do have these skills and make better quality designs and post them for FREE well before the FW models are available.

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