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Gonna hold off, waiting for that MTO

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chaos0xomega wrote:
Gonna hold off, waiting for that MTO


Same. War Wagons and maybe that Amber wizard are all I need/want.

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To be fair if you want to have 2 or more War Waggons on the MTO then saving a big load of cash is well worth it.

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I will probably only buy 2... but i want 6 lol

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JWh85 wrote:
They were sculpted by the Perry twins though. God, I would love for them to come back to GW and make some new Bretonnia designs using GW's current sculpting possibilities. One can dream....


according to what ive heard, it's precisely GW's modern techniques that are why they eft. weren't a fan of digital sculpting, and i'm sure the pipeline is more complicated now than it would have been in the 80s

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 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

according to what ive heard, it's precisely GW's modern techniques that are why they eft. weren't a fan of digital sculpting, and i'm sure the pipeline is more complicated now than it would1 have been in the 80s


I heard that as well; it's a shame really. I would like to see the old masters embrace modern techniques. Of course, GW rarely lets us know the sculptors anymore these days anyway.

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JWh85 wrote:
 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

according to what ive heard, it's precisely GW's modern techniques that are why they eft. weren't a fan of digital sculpting, and i'm sure the pipeline is more complicated now than it would1 have been in the 80s


I heard that as well; it's a shame really. I would like to see the old masters embrace modern techniques. Of course, GW rarely lets us know the sculptors anymore these days anyway.


They are in their mid 60s and are quasi retired. They still do new stuff for their own ranges but most of it is metals, with the occasional plastic set done be Renedra (people who used to do GWs plastics way back in the day).
   
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They did do an interview and back in the day they did sculpt in digital but didn't enjoy it as much. I think also its clear that they like doing historical models and GW was going more and more fantasy and more extreme fantasy too.

So I can see how creative staff like them with solid skills would consider moving away to work on their own or for other firms that were doing more of what they like doing best


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JWh85 wrote:

Of course, GW rarely lets us know the sculptors anymore these days anyway.


It's OK. Because while there's some very nice pieces (and some misses - oh that poor IA Inquisitor :()? Most of their modern stuff just blurs together with none of the distinctive style(s) old models had. It's like it's designed by ChatGP.
   
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Which is basically because there is no 1 designer that makes single models or a whole line but different people making different parts that are put together later
Specially for the larger models

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Or they actually sat down and figured out the equivalent of a character sheet used in cartooning. That is, an actual specification for how each faction is supposed to look.
That they can then give that to, say, the Warhammer+ team for their cartoons or Amazon for their series is just extra bonus. Or maybe that’s why it was developed in the first place.

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 Mr_Rose wrote:
Or they actually sat down and figured out the equivalent of a character sheet used in cartooning. That is, an actual specification for how each faction is supposed to look.
That they can then give that to, say, the Warhammer+ team for their cartoons or Amazon for their series is just extra bonus. Or maybe that’s why it was developed in the first place.


This. GW has developed specific design languages for their stuff and that's a good thing for a brand/franchise.

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Posted this earlier today on TGAC, but it seems that they are planning to update the Old World Map on the Website, with Estalian heraldry visible if you bug out the map.
   
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 kodos wrote:
Which is basically because there is no 1 designer that makes single models or a whole line but different people making different parts that are put together later
Specially for the larger models


Thats not really true. Its something that they do sometimes - if youre sculpting a new unit of primaris marines equopped with bolt rifles, theres no point sculpting a new bolt rifle when you can re-use the existing asset, but the design studio as a whole doesnt generally hodge podge together kits from 5 different sculptors to make every new mini. Projects like the Bone Dragon for Tomb Kings where multiple sculptors pieced it together from several designs are the exception rather than the rule.


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Yes, saw the estalian "leak" on reddit, someine commented that they havent heard anything specific but they saw some stuff that has lead them to believe that there will be a Dogs of War re-issue in the future.

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we're most likely to hear about the things that pass through multiple hands, because there's more people to talk about it (and often because they're more high profile). if John Sculptsman makes a kit of zombies on his own, he's the only one that's going to be talking about sculpting those zombies. if he does an entire range, he might get a warcom article or a shout in white dwarf, but otherwise, there's just less to be said there

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I'll have to sell a kidney if they do a reprint of dogs of war....I want them alllllll

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chaos0xomega wrote:
if youre sculpting a new unit of primaris marines equopped with bolt rifles, theres no point sculpting a new bolt rifle when you can re-use the existing asset

Erm, what? You picked really bad example for it, primaris virtually never reuse assets in that way besides a few armor pieces per model. Just look at bolt rifles of Sternguard Veterans and Primaris Crusaders, none repeat with Intercessor ones (or even between Leviathan and multipart Sternguard sprues), there is always some change from minor to completely new designs (I really like 'skeletonized' bolt rifle and cylindrical mags from Leviathan, much better design than default IMO).

Funnily enough what you said was the case with older plastics, like tactical squad with frame of virtually identical (or several repeating frames of literally identical in case of older kit) bolters, most of TOW range, or virtually any metal not centrepiece character - because sculpting by hand took so much time GW sculptors took shortcuts wherever they could and put bits cut from other models into their greenstuff base, literally reusing assets. In comparison, editing bolt rifle to different furniture, decorations, mags, scopes, alongside with creating new designs for these, takes so little time GW can now afford to make every single weapon unique unlike in the past...
   
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chaos0xomega wrote:
 kodos wrote:
Which is basically because there is no 1 designer that makes single models or a whole line but different people making different parts that are put together later
Specially for the larger models
Thats not really true. Its something that they do sometimes - if youre sculpting a new unit of primaris marines equopped with bolt rifles, theres no point sculpting a new bolt rifle when you can re-use the existing asset, but the design studio as a whole doesnt generally hodge podge together kits from 5 different sculptors to make every new mini. Projects like the Bone Dragon for Tomb Kings where multiple sculptors pieced it together from several designs are the exception rather than the rule.
well, there are 40 different Bolt Rifles for a reason and yet you have carbon copies or mirrors of the base model between factions where the very base is the same with different details bolted on top of it

that you re-use weapons that are standard issue is even done in classic hand sculpting for metal models, this isn't anything new with digital sculpting

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 nathan2004 wrote:
I'll have to sell a kidney if they do a reprint of dogs of war....I want them alllllll


Just curious, how could they make a re-release of dogs of war work in the TOW timeline?
I thought they were uniqe mercenarys bands in the specific Fantasy Battle setting. Or were they legendary units from an undefined historical context?

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A good number of them they can just rename into new named models. Dogs of War as a concept would work in almost any age they did it so the concept of the army can certainly work in the current timeline.

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 Fayric wrote:
 nathan2004 wrote:
I'll have to sell a kidney if they do a reprint of dogs of war....I want them alllllll


Just curious, how could they make a re-release of dogs of war work in the TOW timeline?
I thought they were uniqe mercenarys bands in the specific Fantasy Battle setting. Or were they legendary units from an undefined historical context?


There are a few that would still be ok but most would need some new lore for a similar regiment

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They could always leave the special commander out and say that the unit has always existed but the 2500 commander just lied about its history

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Honestly I would love them to just offer them as unnamed units - instead generic Estalian pikes and crossbows.

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 Irbis wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
if youre sculpting a new unit of primaris marines equopped with bolt rifles, theres no point sculpting a new bolt rifle when you can re-use the existing asset

Erm, what? You picked really bad example for it, primaris virtually never reuse assets in that way besides a few armor pieces per model. Just look at bolt rifles of Sternguard Veterans and Primaris Crusaders, none repeat with Intercessor ones (or even between Leviathan and multipart Sternguard sprues), there is always some change from minor to completely new designs (I really like 'skeletonized' bolt rifle and cylindrical mags from Leviathan, much better design than default IMO).

Funnily enough what you said was the case with older plastics, like tactical squad with frame of virtually identical (or several repeating frames of literally identical in case of older kit) bolters, most of TOW range, or virtually any metal not centrepiece character - because sculpting by hand took so much time GW sculptors took shortcuts wherever they could and put bits cut from other models into their greenstuff base, literally reusing assets. In comparison, editing bolt rifle to different furniture, decorations, mags, scopes, alongside with creating new designs for these, takes so little time GW can now afford to make every single weapon unique unlike in the past...


Oh mu glob, it was just a hypothetical example, not a literal one




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 Fayric wrote:
 nathan2004 wrote:
I'll have to sell a kidney if they do a reprint of dogs of war....I want them alllllll


Just curious, how could they make a re-release of dogs of war work in the TOW timeline?
I thought they were uniqe mercenarys bands in the specific Fantasy Battle setting. Or were they legendary units from an undefined historical context?


Remove the characters, release them as generic units. Braganzas besiegers are just crossbowmen with pavises, Alcatani Fellowship are just pikemen in heavy armor, Leopolds Leopard Company is pikemen w heavy armor, etc.

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High elves revealed and sneak peak at Beastmen. Love everything I see, they say more is to be revealed beyond high elves, wood elves, and beastmen (remaining core).

ToW armies I own:
Empire: 10,000+
Chaos Legions: DoC- 10,000+; WoC- 7,500+; Beastmen- 2,500+; Chaos Dwarves- 3,500+
Unaligned: Ogres- 2,500; Tomb Kings- 3,000
Hotek: Dark Elves- 7,500+; High Elves- 2,500
40k armies I own:
CSM- 25,000+  
   
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Soulblight gravelords new sculpts mean 100% vampires are coming to old world as a core faction imo

ToW armies I own:
Empire: 10,000+
Chaos Legions: DoC- 10,000+; WoC- 7,500+; Beastmen- 2,500+; Chaos Dwarves- 3,500+
Unaligned: Ogres- 2,500; Tomb Kings- 3,000
Hotek: Dark Elves- 7,500+; High Elves- 2,500
40k armies I own:
CSM- 25,000+  
   
 
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