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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
I'll give Arrow a chance, but I have a hard time seeing it stick. I think the teen soap opera elements are what fueled Smallville's long run. The Arrow trailers seem more straight-up super hero, and remind me more of the Flash series from the early '90s. That series was decently done (if dated now), but its audience quickly tailed off after a pretty good start.
I never really got the "straight-up super hero" vibe from the Arrow trailers. I got more the vibe that I get from the Boondock Saints movies, where you're looking at a "vengeance run".
I guess what I mean is that it looks like more of a Batman Begins than a Smallville. It may be a gritty, grounded take on Green Arrow, but it looks like it sits firmly in a traditional action genre. As opposed to early Smallville and the Dawson's Creek-with-heat-vision thing it had going on.
Was just reading an interview that I thought I would share here for "Arrow".
It contains spoilers, and as such will be spoiler tagged. This text is a preface warning so that nothing leaks through the spoiler tags, and I cannot be blamed for any potential spoilers.
Okay, now here we go:
Spoiler:
The CW's Arrow can't leap tall buildings, isn't part spider, and doesn't have the flashy, super-cool toys like the Batman. In fact, when it comes to this Oliver Queen, the word "superhero" doesn't really apply, said co-creator and executive producer Andrew Kreisberg about his new series, Arrow, which premieres tonight at 8 p.m.
[Spoiler alert!]
"We definitely took the Christopher Nolan approach in what he did with Batman in the Dark Knight trilogy," said Kreisberg, in an exclusive interview with Blastr. "In the same way that Mr. Freeze and Clayface don't fit into Christopher Nolan's conception of Batman and all of the villains were grounded and human and didn't have superpowers. On our show, it'll be the same."
Arrow reboots the comic book superhero, the Green Arrow. In this series, when playboy billionaire Oliver Queen's ship is sunk during a terrible storm that takes the lives of several people, including his father, he's shipwrecked alone a deserted island for five years. After being rescued, he returns to Starling City and keeps his rich playboy facade to hide his secret identity as a vigilante known as Arrow. While Oliver tries to reconnect with his family and friends, he uses the Arrow and the physical abilities he developed to survive on the island, to right the wrongs of his family and fight the ills of society in an attempt to restore Starling City to its former glory. The series comes from Kreisberg, Greg Berlanti and Marc Guggenheim, and stars Stephen Amell as the Arrow, Susanna Thompson, Paul Blackthorne, Katie Cassidy and John Barrowman.
"Stephen Amell is genetically engineered to play Oliver Queen," said Kreisberg. "It's a hard part, because he's not just playing the hero. There's really four characters that he's playing."
With the help of flashbacks, he plays his former rich playboy self, "the one who just lived to have fun and party. He's playing the damaged Oliver, who's returned after five years. And then there's the playboy that he's playing in the present, which is really a character unto itself, because it's Oliver pretending to still be who he was. And then lastly there's the character of the Arrow. So in any given day, Stephen could be playing two or three different parts, and he plays them all beautifully," he said.
Each episode will have flashbacks about what happened to Oliver on the island, said Kreisberg. "So by the end of the series, you'll get to see every moment that helped turn him into the warrior that you see in the pilot."
Kreisberg, who wrote many of the Green Arrow/Black Canary comic books, found "something more grounded about him in the comic books, which is something that we strove for in our TV show. There aren't any superpowers in our show. There aren't any aliens. It takes place in the real world. It's very grounded. And I think his character lent itself well to someone existing in the real world. That's what's always been fun about Green Arrow, is his strong sense of social justice. And I think that that's certainly something in the zeitgeist right now with Occupy Wall Street and the 99-percenters and the notion of a hero. Somebody who's fighting for the little person resonates strongly in today's world," he said.
While the spirit of the Green Arrow resides strongly in Arrow, there are changes to the basic story. This Oliver Queen has a family, in that he now has a sister, and his mother is alive. "Because when you've disappeared for five years and you've come back changed, unless people knew who you were before you left, there's no one to register that you have changed. So we just wanted to give the show as much emotional context as possible," said Kreisberg.
And in an effort to keep him real, "Oliver will never refer to himself as 'the Arrow.' And the police will never say, 'Put an APB out on the Arrow.' To them, he's the vigilante, he's the guy in the hood, he's the guy who thinks he's Robin Hood. And I think, again, that helps keep it grounded. It was one of the reasons we dropped the 'green' out of the title. We didn't want people to think this was juvenile. We want people to feel like this is a real show and a smart and slightly sophisticated take on a comic book story," he said.
While there won't be any superheroes or supervillains in Arrow, you will "see plenty of people from the DC universe. We've got a lot of fun surprises for people coming up, like a lot of DC Comics characters, some of whom have been on the screen before that will be shown in a different way, or some that people have probably always wanted to see who have never gotten the chance. But this is definitively the real world."
"We say that this is not a show about a superhero. This is a show about a hero," said Kreisberg. "We think about it more like a crime thriller. When you look at a procedural show, there's always the crime of the week which is the mystery. But with our show, the mystery every week is 'Who is Oliver Queen?'"
Actually, Kreisberg admits there is one superpower that his Oliver Queen has.
"I think Oliver's superpower is that he's not afraid to die. We see him as more Jason Bourne, more Ethan Hunt than superhero. When you're not afraid to die, you can do pretty amazing things."
So far:
I like it. Looks like there will be a lot of "flashbacks"...not sure how I feel about that one, just yet.
Spoiler:
Noticed that a "Tommy Merlyn" is in...
Second commercial break!
It's definitely picking up. Another flashback sequence...but I'm decided that I like them so far.
Spoiler:
Oliver referred to his sister at one point as "Speedy". It gets written off as a pet nickname between the two, as she calls him "Ollie"...but could they be setting up things to come?
So far, still good! I think "Arrow" is going to be a staple of my Wednesday nights from henceforth...
Spoiler:
Yay, Paul Blackthorne! Liking him as the detective foil to Oliver Queen's Arrow. Which has a very interesting twist, as Oliver in a voiceover implies that "Arrow" is less an alternate identity...but rather an entirely separate personality to his own. Kinda like that angle.
Oh that's nice. Hunt's new head of security is "Drakon"...another throwaway reference?
Yup. This is a "must watch" now.
Spoiler:
Stephen Amsell is absolutely fantastic as Oliver Queen. "Drakon" was, in fact, not a throwaway reference but a reference to the Greek assassin who did in fact crucify Oliver Queen with his own arrows. Things did not turn out quite as well for Drakon here though...
Also: Not just "Yay Paul Blackthorne!". "Yay Paul Blackthorne AND Roger Cross(played Joshua on 'First Wave') as police detectives!".
Automatically Appended Next Post: Next week has "China White" making an appearance.
This promises great things.
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Recently read the first micro series TPB and volume 3 of IDW's current Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series and it's still fantastic. It's a great take on the franchise which combines the best elements from the old and the new Turtles. Vol. 3 is the first time we see the new Shredder and he's awesome!
I especially love the new costume, the mask under the helmet is now made of cloth, underlining the ninja theme (I always thought Shredder had more of a samurai look). If you like the Turtles you have to check this series out.
Also read the first TPB from IDW's Doctor Who/Star Trek crossover Assimilation 2, which I found to be quite dissapointing. The artwork looks like a bad photoshop filter and the first issue is basically just filler.
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Since this is the comic discussion thread, I wanted to ask fellow nerds without starting a new thread...what's the big deal about "Xavier's" death in the recently finished X-Men vs Avengers comic storyline? Reason I ask, Xavier died back in the 80's-the real Xavier was turned into a Brood Queen, and ironically, his killer back in the 80's killed him during this series too (won't spoil who it was). Shi'ar technology cloned Xavier back then, and the Xavier we've had since his only been a clone. Yes, this IS canon to X-men lore, it took place during Claremont's classic run. Am I the only one yawning over the 'death' of Xavier? Not cuz he'll be back (as all characters are), but because it's not really him-it's a test tube version. So...who really cares?
Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
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You guys are addressing the wrong problem!! Lol. Really looks like nobody else cares either. Lol. 'Big event,' and it's all no big deal. Thanks for proving I'm not nuts guys. Lol
Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
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timetowaste85 wrote: Since this is the comic discussion thread, I wanted to ask fellow nerds without starting a new thread...what's the big deal about "Xavier's" death in the recently finished X-Men vs Avengers comic storyline? Reason I ask, Xavier died back in the 80's-the real Xavier was turned into a Brood Queen, and ironically, his killer back in the 80's killed him during this series too (won't spoil who it was). Shi'ar technology cloned Xavier back then, and the Xavier we've had since his only been a clone. Yes, this IS canon to X-men lore, it took place during Claremont's classic run. Am I the only one yawning over the 'death' of Xavier? Not cuz he'll be back (as all characters are), but because it's not really him-it's a test tube version. So...who really cares?
To me, the past few decades of X-history feels a lot like one long Spidey clone saga. It's impossibly convoluted and often contradictory. It'd be okay if those books were merely inconsistent. I don't require perfect continuity. My issue is with all the reveals followed by cheap reversals, and reversals again, and then never mind, none of that really happened, oh yes it did...sort of. Taken as a whole, it all feels cheap and like a series of writers trying to outdo each other rather than build on the good of what came before. Even for comic books. *shrug*
Enjoyed Batman #13. Something is definitely going on with this incarnation of the Joker, but what?
I've been reading Batman (not detective comics), Ultimate Comics Spiderman and Ultimate Comics the Ultimates, Hell Yeah, Invincible, Invincible Iron Man (switching into the new Marvel Now version) and probably Uncanny Avengers... And I think Action Comics (I've picked it up a few times, not sold if I want to keep reading about Superman, I generally don't like him lol)
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