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Honestly, I potter off for a couple of days and all sorts of random stuff comes up...

Revenent Reiko wrote:Yeah! Love it!

The curled up edge of the metal walkway is perfect as well, really gives the impression that the Stealer has just burst up from underneath....

Well, then my work here is done! If you got that without me painting it, then it's visually come together as I hoped.

Gitsplitta wrote:Nice work graven....

Short and sweet, just the way I like it - thanks man.

Briancj wrote:

Spoiler:

 inmygravenimage wrote:

I WANT SOME BUTTS!

--B.

Top Gun jokes never get old.

Brian, master of font sizes I actually found my brain yelling "Butt-scratcher! Get your butt-scratcher!"

Yellowbeard wrote:Fantastic!

Cheers bro.

Know No Pear wrote:Looking good here! I really like bases which have these tiny little dioramas in them, really makes for a characterful character(haha)

I got a bit carried away when I was doing my tagk and it seems to have a stuck.

funkyh wrote:

 Gitsplitta wrote:
OK, just because someone else did it wrong is no reason for you to do as well! *grin*

So if GW does it "wrong" does it give hime reason to do the whole arm silver?

Solar_lion wrote:I'm in agreement with the arm being the right color. I think it trrow the model off.. Yes even the Above GW painted ones!

One mans opinion. Keep on Gravening!

funkyh wrote:

 Solar_lion wrote:
I'm in agreement with the atm being the right color. I think it trrow the model off.. Yes even the Above GW painted ones!

One mans opinion. Keep on Gravening!

Two... My Dw will only have a silver pad. Still loving the blog man.

Oh gawd, this way madness lies. Each to their own I guess! The hobby involves so much reinterpretation of established paintjobs that, in that regard, I'm not overly concerned with GW "standard" as long as it still feels just about right. Thanks for support either way chaps.

Thatguy91 wrote:Man this is absolutely awesome! Its not often I go through a long thread like this page for page. Keep it up!

Well I'm mighty obliged for you trawling through the random rubbish that pours out of brain! Glad to have you aboard.

Solar_lion wrote:

 inmygravenimage wrote:
Nope, whole arm. Here's my reference pic btw:

Spoiler:

The more I look at this picture the more I find it puts me off.. scroll case in crotch area. Bad placement.. Magazine clip too small and the pistol grip is not quite sitting right. Neck cir. Breastplate opening is HUGE! But mostly it's the Poptart frosting squiggles on the PS. Otherwise cool! and he can always find his keys thou using them from where they are might prove intertaining

Yeah, it IS pretty silly, but it was handy as a starting point for balancing Libby colours with any kind of chapter detailing - which in my case extends to gold wheel arches.

So here's what you get for your patience... A crappy photo! Sorry, I've been marking essays sitting on my little one's bedroom floor with the help of beer (better than dartboard marking - occasional kid gets 60 out of 50...), wife's been ill lady last couple of days, and I'm basically whacked. Still:

First and second stage highlights. Axe will be obsidian, hence blacked out just now. Eyes will begin at green like the blast. Started marking in osl though not sure how clear that is. Oh, and stealer will be done like night lord's flesh I think, so... fleshy. Yeah. Armour to be rewashed blue, before adding in lighting bolts and sunbursts gold, retouching other golds, and rewashing sepia. I have completely forgotten to add a brass =][= below my sculpted skull and not sure what to do there. I'm also finding his pack itself a little plain - purity seals maybe, even?
Your thoughts, views and support as ever appreciated,
graven

Definitely, its a great bit of modelling to convey the movement/feel of the model, well done mate!

I really like the gravenised Libby armour as well (gravenising is going to become a 'thing'.... ), the light/washed out blue contrasts beautifully with the gold but still has a depth of colour to it....impressed. Cant see the OSL markings myself, but theni dont necessarily know what i am looking for, so i will await final results...otherwise the green inks have pooled rather nicely in the recesses of the blast, it looks great already!

Wow. That is looking excellent!

Question- does the psychic blast stuff make the model off-balanced?

Revenent Reiko wrote:Definitely, its a great bit of modelling to convey the movement/feel of the model, well done mate!

I really like the gravenised Libby armour as well (gravenising is going to become a 'thing'.... ), the light/washed out blue contrasts beautifully with the gold but still has a depth of colour to it....impressed. Cant see the OSL markings myself, but theni dont necessarily know what i am looking for, so i will await final results...otherwise the green inks have pooled rather nicely in the recesses of the blast, it looks great already!

Gravenised... Makes me think of...


I've come to terms with the fact that I have a very... idiosyncratic style of painting. It's not your conventional GW style, but it works for me.
I like the green ink pooling, although Mrs G thinks it should look either wetter or lightning-er. By OSL I just mean a bit of glow around the eyes and hand. I'm not big on crazy osl (although the xmas malifaux winner was just about the most impressive thing I've ever seen) but I like a bit of glow now and then.

Somehow that sounds rude. Anyway, like a well-fitting bra, thanks for your support mate!

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Wow. That is looking excellent!

Question- does the psychic blast stuff make the model off-balanced?

Thanks bud. I really hope I can get the treadplate on the base up to a weathering standard remotely nearly the likes of you and monkeytroll.
The balance, not so much actually. The genestealer head at the back is pretty much a perfect match on the weight and the base is one of Fenris Games' excellent plain recessed d-style bases so it's got a flat, relatively thick bottom that distributes the weight overall fairly evenly.

Here's some progress shots, anyhoo.

Yes, there is now writing. Woo. I've gone with greek, repeating the phrase "Aien Aristuein" (always be the best - Illiad Bk 6). It's fairly tiny, and looks magicspacefuture script-y. plus he has greek letters on his greaves, so why not eh? Gold needs layered next. Also, need to do the axe's shaft, and not sure where to go with this. Did find a mould line all the way down it so filed that away with a sigh. Loincloth's looking messy right now but that's mostly drybrush splatter, easily fixed and haven't even gone there yet. Underside of the wreath on the pad needs a black wash and all those lightning bolts are still switching in my head between gold, silver and pure white. Thoughts?


Need to white spot the eyes too, of course. Hopefully this view gives a proper shot of the sculpted skull pad. Does it need a in the mouth?


I'm so underwhelmed by the back, but of course at the same time I want the genestealer to be the focus here. Should I do stuff to the backpack, or leave well alone?


Actually my favourite shot! This really confirms in my head that green psy blast was the way to go, and it complements my classic obsidian-style weapons really nicely, imo.


A close-up. The $64,000 question is: does gravenising just look messy at this resolution?

Hey ho, and thanks for your continuing forbearance,
the graveniser.

Woo what an update!

Where to start....

YES! I love that song! This is now your themetune....

Definitely, but then its not about copying someone else, even the company that makes the models, its all about doing your own thing finding something that works for you (and it does!)...

I see what you mean on the OSL, i can see it in the eyes now, looks good, subtle but effective. I kind of agree with Mrs graven on the blast, it needs to be a bit lighter on the lighter bits, and a shade darker on the darker bits (so,.....with just more contrast really ) Havent seen the Malifaux comp, will look it up if i can.

Hahaha a bit of glow eh? Pretty sure thats illegal in this country...

Hmm, may now become a DCM just to change my rank to 'like a well-fitting bra' no problem mate, thank you for producing so many good things for me to ogle!

Looks good. I like your painting style.

and I too agree with Mrs G, More lightningefied. Maybe a layer or two around the light bits to make them look like they are the origin of the light and the darker, green bits are just the glow.
At the mo it looks a bit too solid.
Does that make sense? I know what I mean.

Revenent Reiko wrote:Woo what an update!

Where to start....

YES! I love that song! This is now your themetune....

I'm actually not much of a Chem Bros fan - more of a rocker - but this does have a certain charm

Revenent Reiko wrote:

Definitely, but then its not about copying someone else, even the company that makes the models, its all about doing your own thing finding something that works for you (and it does!)...

Well I appreciate that, truly. Hard to trust one's own judgement in that regard sometime.

Revenent Reiko wrote:
I see what you mean on the OSL, i can see it in the eyes now, looks good, subtle but effective. I kind of agree with Mrs graven on the blast, it needs to be a bit lighter on the lighter bits, and a shade darker on the darker bits (so,.....with just more contrast really ) Havent seen the Malifaux comp, will look it up if i can.

Actually, that's a really helpful way of explaining it - raising the contrast will really make it pop I think. Maybe then the green gw shade next?

Revenent Reiko wrote:

Hahaha a bit of glow eh? Pretty sure thats illegal in this country...

Hmm, may now become a DCM just to change my rank to 'like a well-fitting bra' no problem mate, thank you for producing so many good things for me to ogle!

Do it! DCM! DCM!

Dr H wrote:Looks good. I like your painting style.

and I too agree with Mrs G, More lightningefied. Maybe a layer or two around the light bits to make them look like they are the origin of the light and the darker, green bits are just the glow.
At the mo it looks a bit too solid.
Does that make sense? I know what I mean.

Thanks mate, and yes totally makes sense. It's kinda back to front but does help me visualise where to go from here! Your point about the origin being the lighter parts is especially useful.

Btw, I've gone with gold lightning. This is in no way because I had a gold paint spill

 inmygravenimage wrote:

Your point about the origin being the lighter parts is especially useful.

Btw, I've gone with gold lightning. This is in no way because I had a gold paint spill

Good O. That was the main point I was trying to make.

Noooo, of course not. It's an inspired choice.

 inmygravenimage wrote:
The $64,000 question is: does gravenising just look messy at this resolution?

I think it looks like OSL. A bit chalky in places, but totally sells the idea and at 3 ft away where most people will see it from it's going to look brilliant.

The important thing is that you are brave enough to try techniques like this. You'll notice that none of my models have OSL, or highlights, or blending, or any of that. And when something like that does happen, it's 100% pure happenstance with no intent on my part to make it happen.

You are improving. Keep it up.

 inmygravenimage wrote:

Revenent Reiko wrote:Woo what an update!

Where to start....

YES! I love that song! This is now your themetune....

I'm actually not much of a Chem Bros fan - more of a rocker - but this does have a certain charm

Im a bit.....weird with my music taste, rock, drum and bass, dubstep, bit of pop....anything with a good beat that is generic rubbish now i come to think about it!

 inmygravenimage wrote:

Revenent Reiko wrote:

Definitely, but then its not about copying someone else, even the company that makes the models, its all about doing your own thing finding something that works for you (and it does!)...

Well I appreciate that, truly. Hard to trust one's own judgement in that regard sometime.

You're more than welcome i know what you mean, sometime you need an outsider's perspective (so to speak), glad i can be the one to tell you...

 inmygravenimage wrote:

Revenent Reiko wrote:
I see what you mean on the OSL, i can see it in the eyes now, looks good, subtle but effective. I kind of agree with Mrs graven on the blast, it needs to be a bit lighter on the lighter bits, and a shade darker on the darker bits (so,.....with just more contrast really ) Havent seen the Malifaux comp, will look it up if i can.

Actually, that's a really helpful way of explaining it - raising the contrast will really make it pop I think. Maybe then the green gw shade next?

Happy to help. Definitely, its got good contrast at the moment, but a bit more will really make it stand out i think. sounds good, just make sure to bring the highlights back out afterwards (as Dr H has said)

 inmygravenimage wrote:

Revenent Reiko wrote:

Hahaha a bit of glow eh? Pretty sure thats illegal in this country...

Hmm, may now become a DCM just to change my rank to 'like a well-fitting bra' no problem mate, thank you for producing so many good things for me to ogle!

Do it! DCM! DCM!

Hahaha, i will, i think im going to wait until the first day of my new job (got the acceptance call on Monday, have to go into London to let them take a photocopy of my passport in the morning and then all ive gotta do is wait for the background check to come back clear and im good to go ) and then i will finally take the leap....so 6 weeks and counting really i guess...

Thanks for your support, faith and encouragement guys. Reiko, grats on job! What is?
A little base wip:

Yes I am doing a white stealer. I am that nuts.

Thanks! Its basically what i am doing now, but permanent (fixed term) instead of Temp work, so i am going to be a Data Manager for the Clinical Trials Unit working for the Medical Research Council....(or DM for CTU in MRC....stupid acronyms.... ). Not sure what trial(s) yet, but should be oncology (cancer studies, which is what ive been doing already) so im really looking forward to it....

Also, first (real) interview and i got a phone call with an offer straight after the last person was interviewed....man did i feel good on Monday!

Loving the base mate, when that PVC dries it is gonna look immense...did you think of adding ink(s) to the glue btw? to try and get a dirty/murky look going on?

Looks great, Graven. I've always liked your unique style. Some colors might not work as well gravenized as others, but I like how Loth looks. It does give an almost antiquated feel, like your Weeping Angels, but I like that. (And I still love how the Last of the Star Scorpions came out.)

As for the back, is that a kull on the pack? You should do that. Maybe some metal bits to match the gold on the rest of the model?

Love the white Stealer.

HELP ME, I'M MELTING...MELLLLLTINGGGGG...

Couldn't resist that.

Looking good.

I thing the SL figure is a must, It has to be one onf the best FW has put out.


Good job mate. As for style .. you are the only person who has to be happy with it. The rest of us are spectators to your hobby!

Librarian is looking sweet. Gravenizing produces an appropriate weathered look, particularly with golds.
The OSL around the eyes looks a bit ... unfinished. The source should be brighter than the glow.
Can you see it from three feet away?

Good luck with the glue. I found it is easier to let the first layer cure and than paint, ink, or wash it. Follow that with another layer of glue and wham-o, instant depth.

Looking forward to seeing the finished minis.


Be well and take care

Revenent Reiko wrote:Thanks! Its basically what i am doing now, but permanent (fixed term) instead of Temp work, so i am going to be a Data Manager for the Clinical Trials Unit working for the Medical Research Council....(or DM for CTU in MRC....stupid acronyms.... ). Not sure what trial(s) yet, but should be oncology (cancer studies, which is what ive been doing already) so im really looking forward to it....

Also, first (real) interview and i got a phone call with an offer straight after the last person was interviewed....man did i feel good on Monday!

Loving the base mate, when that PVC dries it is gonna look immense...did you think of adding ink(s) to the glue btw? to try and get a dirty/murky look going on?

Sounds cool, these medical types have all the fun acronyms (wife's a BMS). Ink into the PVA (not PVC, that's something quite different ) dind;t really work, alas.

Yellowbeard wrote:Looks great, Graven. I've always liked your unique style. Some colors might not work as well gravenized as others, but I like how Loth looks. It does give an almost antiquated feel, like your Weeping Angels, but I like that. (And I still love how the Last of the Star Scorpions came out.)

As for the back, is that a kull on the pack? You should do that. Maybe some metal bits to match the gold on the rest of the model?

Love the white Stealer.

Thanks mate. The skull on the back is silver, though not obvious. Some gold trim may be the answer indeed! Yeah, I'm actually really pleased with stealer, though I'm tempted to add some red striping to his cranium.

Dr H wrote:

HELP ME, I'M MELTING...MELLLLLTINGGGGG...

Couldn't resist that.

Looking good.

Love it.

Solar_lion wrote:I thing the SL figure is a must, It has to be one onf the best FW has put out.


Good job mate. As for style .. you are the only person who has to be happy with it. The rest of us are spectators to your hobby!

Absolutely, and the honour guard are bits-tastic. Thanks for the support mate!

 albinoork wrote:
Librarian is looking sweet. Gravenizing produces an appropriate weathered look, particularly with golds.
The OSL around the eyes looks a bit ... unfinished. The source should be brighter than the glow.
Can you see it from three feet away?

Good luck with the glue. I found it is easier to let the first layer cure and than paint, ink, or wash it. Follow that with another layer of glue and wham-o, instant depth.

Looking forward to seeing the finished minis.

Be well and take care

Thanks man. Good point on the OSL! I shall work on that. Funny you mention that, that's exactly where I'm going with it (see below)!

So here's next stage:

The green is too dark around the hand as, unlike the rest, it hasn't had contrast increased (I detached the blast to reposition it slightly, so had to repaint). I've started to ink the goo, all though I'm tempted to go for really nuclear, day-glo green. Thoughts? I've add a metal spike jutting from the underside of the broken concrete, just cos, right?


Stealer's now in situ. I think it maybe needs a splash of colour (red?) to make it pop, and the back of the libby still needs something. Still, definite progress!

Thanks for your continuing etc gang!

gravenius maximus

 inmygravenimage wrote:

Revenent Reiko wrote:Thanks! Its basically what i am doing now, but permanent (fixed term) instead of Temp work, so i am going to be a Data Manager for the Clinical Trials Unit working for the Medical Research Council....(or DM for CTU in MRC....stupid acronyms.... ). Not sure what trial(s) yet, but should be oncology (cancer studies, which is what ive been doing already) so im really looking forward to it....

Also, first (real) interview and i got a phone call with an offer straight after the last person was interviewed....man did i feel good on Monday!

Loving the base mate, when that PVC dries it is gonna look immense...did you think of adding ink(s) to the glue btw? to try and get a dirty/murky look going on?

Sounds cool, these medical types have all the fun acronyms (wife's a BMS). Ink into the PVA (not PVC, that's something quite different ) dind;t really work, alas.

of course its PVA not PVC.....my bad....hahaha shame that adding some ink in didnt work, but it was onyl a suggestion, no harm done (i hope!)

It should be great, im really looking forward to it! (just found out my salary will be £2-4k higher than i was expecting as well....gotta love London!) i wouldnt call the acronyms fun all the time, its like another language, but one that has no rules or regulations but everyone expects you to already speak....(BMS? See, theres one i dont know...)

EDIT: REALLY Like the contrast on the blast now mate!Even just adding the ink on has made a huge difference...i like the idea of the day-glo green, a real neon colouring, but would be interested to see how you would get there from this as a base? Still, im really looking forward to it, and even now it looks great...

Red is a good choise, compliments the green on the other side of the model nicely...

looking good so far!!! love the libbs deathwatch guy!!! and the toy water thing coming out of his had is brillant!!!!

Revenent Reiko wrote:
of course its PVA not PVC.....my bad....hahaha shame that adding some ink in didnt work, but it was onyl a suggestion, no harm done (i hope!)
EDIT: REALLY Like the contrast on the blast now mate!Even just adding the ink on has made a huge difference...i like the idea of the day-glo green, a real neon colouring, but would be interested to see how you would get there from this as a base? Still, im really looking forward to it, and even now it looks great...

Red is a good choise, compliments the green on the other side of the model nicely...

BMS=BioMedical Scientist. Nonono, ink in pva a great idea, always fun to experiment (as opposed to experimenting with PVC, that's a whole other bit of t'internet). I think getting up to a bright green with yellow at the top end is certainly doable. Yeah, I think orangey red head stripes are the way forward.

HAZZER wrote:looking good so far!!! love the libbs deathwatch guy!!! and the toy water thing coming out of his had is brillant!!!!

Thanks man. As a rule I'm not a fan of cinematics but this is just something a little bit different

I have an idea for the back: gold on the area around the centre vent, keeping the skull silver. That sound like a flan?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oh! Re: Reiko's EDIT - ta! Yeah, I very very very carefully inked in the recesses with the green shade. Worked a treat.

 inmygravenimage wrote:

Revenent Reiko wrote:
of course its PVA not PVC.....my bad....hahaha shame that adding some ink in didnt work, but it was onyl a suggestion, no harm done (i hope!)
EDIT: REALLY Like the contrast on the blast now mate!Even just adding the ink on has made a huge difference...i like the idea of the day-glo green, a real neon colouring, but would be interested to see how you would get there from this as a base? Still, im really looking forward to it, and even now it looks great...

Red is a good choise, compliments the green on the other side of the model nicely...

BMS=BioMedical Scientist. Nonono, ink in pva a great idea, always fun to experiment (as opposed to experimenting with PVC, that's a whole other bit of t'internet). I think getting up to a bright green with yellow at the top end is certainly doable. Yeah, I think orangey red head stripes are the way forward.

I have an idea for the back: gold on the area around the centre vent, keeping the skull silver. That sound like a flan?

Oh! Re: Reiko's EDIT - ta! Yeah, I very very very carefully inked in the recesses with the green shade. Worked a treat.

Ahh Ok, that makes more sense (Google fail....), what a cool job! Kind of wish i had done BioChemistry at Uni instead of straight Chemistry, but then i just remember all the extra classes/reports/allsortsofrubbish they had to do and breathe a sigh of relief... Agreed! And not a part of the internet that is for kiddies....lol theoretically, ink in PVA should work, but i can imagine its a bit of a pain...

Yeah that will work i think, just gotta be careful not to go too yellow overall, just a touch on the 'tips' would work well i feel...definitely, orangy red for the Stealer is a good plan mate!

it does indeed sound like a flan..... i kid, i kid.... yeah i think that sounds good, the other being the reverse of course, gold skull, silver background, either would work...

And it has worked GREAT! The little details you have picked out have really made it come alive....

Following some very detailed feedback from the mighty gitsplitta, latest wip (still lots to do though):











Please hit me up with your C&C gang!

That's looking really good graven. The changes you've made have had an impact to be sure. Well done mate.

Looks great, Graven! The bit of gold on the back looks nice. Like the OSL around the eyes and the gold and white chest plate. Yeah, and the Greek on the shin guard is awesome.

loving it so far!! cant wait to see the finsihed product!!

Looks great graven, really coming together now...the little touch of red on the Stealer has worked wonderfully as well...

Looking excellent so far Graven, the stealer looks great on the base. Maybe a purity seal on the backpack to break up the blue?

What can I say? The psychic blast looks great but I really love the Genestealer ambush-base.

Gitsplitta wrote:That's looking really good graven. The changes you've made have had an impact to be sure. Well done mate.

Well your input was invaluable. I'm pretty close, I think, to leaving him as is, now.

Yellowbeard wrote:Looks great, Graven! The bit of gold on the back looks nice. Like the OSL around the eyes and the gold and white chest plate. Yeah, and the Greek on the shin guard is awesome.

Cheers man. It is, undoubtedly, one of the best figs FW have done.

Revenent Reiko wrote:Looks great graven, really coming together now...the little touch of red on the Stealer has worked wonderfully as well...

Cool. I wondered whether to add any more, to the inside of the arms on that ridging? Might be a bit much though.

GiraffeX wrote:Looking excellent so far Graven, the stealer looks great on the base. Maybe a purity seal on the backpack to break up the blue?

I agree, but the problem is where? About the only place it could viably go is on the middle-right of the pack, simply for space. An alternative is to add... something to his backside, such as a termie loincloth (the double purity seal one)... Hmm. Any thoughts, troops?

LeadLegion wrote:What can I say? The psychic blast looks great but I really love the Genestealer ambush-base.

Thanks bro. Sorry I can't make it to your leaving do btw.

Not much to report. I got an awesome DW RL dude from Red Skullz in the mail, so I'm going to post some pics of my DW so far, hopefully later on tonight. Progress is slow as work is mental (seriously, January never used to be this crazy), kids are loopy (much fun, but bedtime is not), and other stuff is going on in the background that is stressing me out.


So, is Loth done? What do y'all think?

Until the nonce,
graven

Yeah i think a touch extra of red coule work, not a great deal though if you do decide to add it, just a little. Realistically the Stealer isnt the main focus of the model, so he shouldnt be that...flashy, as it were, and he already balances well with the rest of the model (especially the front)....sorry for the slightly contradictory repsonse

Personally i would be hesitant to add actual substance to the back of the model at this stage, the Stealer is there to give some interest/contrast so i dont think the back needs extra....obviously, feel free to add to your heart's content and ignore me mate

inmygravenimage wrote:(seriously, January never used to be this snowy)

FTFY

Bad times on the homefront graven, hope it all gets better soon! Good luck with the insurance company, and if you ever manage to stop your parents being a nightmare please let me know how you did it cos i havent managed with mine.... chin up dude.