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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 22:32:04
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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looks brilliant. how are you going to do the interior?
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The USS Orinoco was a Federation Danube-class runabout that was in service with Starfleet in the late 24th century, attached to Deep Space 9. It was outfitted with a sensor pod.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/05 12:29:16
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I love this thread. Its nice to see slow and steady progress. Youre sharing every detail on this model with us. And its looking great BTW
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/06 09:47:12
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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I can't place why, but it reminds me of shuttle Tydirium, which isn't bad as it happen to be one of my favorite space ships. Bra is a nice description. My Jeeps wear bras.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/06 09:59:48
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
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you have far too much time and willpower to put this level of effort in.
well done!
-skrall
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/06 12:09:03
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I wouldnt say too much time. He started this thread 2 years ago. So its 2 years in the making, that takes awhile. Willpower though? Definitely
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/06 14:14:27
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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After 2 months I would have given up. Heck. I don't even have one completely painted army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/06 20:53:22
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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First let me dispel the myth that I began this Warlord two years ago. I was still building Lucie at that time but I had only just discovered Dave Smith's rendering of his Warlord. It was so fantastic I almost gave up on Lucie. after an abortive attempt I realized I needed more information on the scale and proportions of a warlord; seat of the pants reckoning just wouldn't cut it. I shelved the Warlord and commenced renovating the T'hawk. Bless the Internet I found large sized images of an Epic Warlord taken from every conceivable angle in early March of this year and reopened this thread so the Warlord as it stand right now is from about the Vernal equinox until the present. BTW Valhalla, I have no painted army whatsoever! Automatically Appended Next Post: The_Blackadder wrote:Okay some one has tampered with a successful format and now it takes an act of god to access the next page. Three times I have experienced this glitch and I'm sure other Dakka denizens have as well. IF IT CAN'T BE REPAIRED AT LEAST RETURN TO THE OLDER FORMAT.
No clearly it is I who am overthinking the project as usual; part of the fun of scratchbuilding is pushing the envelope. Dave Smith's model is fantastic but it appears static. fixed as it were for eternity in one pose. Since I haven't the artistic ability to improve very much on what I consider perfection I must to salve my self respect and attempt to make the joints movable by drawing on my mechanical aptitude.
Clearly you can't visualize the mechanism because I haven't either. I know what I want to do and can visualize the mechanism but whether the material is up to the manufacture or the stress imposed by the of the mass of this model remains to be explored but as you may have perceived the finished model is secondary to the building.
My philosophy is, "getting there is ALL the fun."
And yes the actuators will be movable.
I am posting on at least a dozen forums England, France, Argentina, and Russia (I think) but never fear Dakka is my home and always my first post.
The narcissistic Blackadder
Clearly I haven't read my own thread; it appears I started this project in the beginning of March this year...............
Automatically Appended Next Post: The following explains why I opted for the suspension I did other than the adaptation of a ball joint suspension:
The_Blackadder wrote:In all the images of the ankle area there is no hint of a ball joint besides which I don't think will bear the weight either in the model or a real vehicle of this purported size. I can make functioning ball joints as in Lucie's hips and ankles but these would be on an order of magnitude larger and therefore much too large to represent in the model unless I want the foot to be 3 inches thick. For my purposes using only a portion of a sphere i.e. the semicircular disc mounted perpendicular to the ankle disc which puts 50% of the rotation above the ankle and buries it in the shank. Surprisingly this seems to be the solution arrived at by the "Cosmic Engineer" himself for virtually all ambulatory animals (At Least on Earth) so it seems the way to go.
A interesting side note on ball joints: In living creatures which have the ability to renew the connecting tissue as it wears unlike machines that need periodic replacement of similar devices. Once the capacity for regeneration is diminished, arthritis and general deterioration of the joint occurs and Granny breaks a hip. Another reason why immortality isn't all it's cracked up to be. (Groan!)
The ball in the image above is not recessed sufficiently into the cup and acts more like a bearing that a joint and provides no attachment of the foot to the ankle so an attachment point is still necessary and it's poor engineering to use hydraulic actuators for attaching points as the stress causes the seals to leak and/or fail prematurely.
Thanks, I appreciate the input.
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"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 20:20:56
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Okay got the house back together after the 'Sandy' disaster; spent the past week repairing wiring, installing a new waterheater, tearing out the downstairs bath/ WC, wallboard, spackling. plumbing, replacing electrical wiring, and oh yes replacing the upholstery on the dining table set of chairs.......... Yeah the Blackadder has dozens of valuable skills that keep him in a lower income group but I still managed to find time to make some headway(groan) on the head. Taking M. Hutts critique to heart I shaved yet another 3-6 MM off the head in various places all to the betterment of the look of the dome ( IMHO) but I have run out of material in some spots so I daren't remove any more. The next time you see this I'll have made some inroads into the rear of the cowl and all that good looking cryptic plumbing on the side of the head.
http://i.imgur.com/0Jo70.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1d93h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/l629W.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HZVXR.jpg
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"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/11 18:05:25
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/11 18:10:51
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Battle Tested Karist Trooper
Central Coast, California
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This project looks amazing so far. Very inspiring work! Subbed!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/11 19:36:33
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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I don't know whats going on under that dome but there sure is a lot of large diameter conduit running to it. Meanwhile I need to make a s--tpot load of LCD screens for the cockpit, command deck and engineering
http://i.imgur.com/aKXcY.jpg
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/11 19:59:24
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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Hope you are surviving after Sandy, we felt it all the way out in Canada, though we just had a few roof shingles blow off.
I never realized how large the head was until you held it, wow! Keep up the great work Blackie, loving every moment of this project.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/12 16:44:04
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Yeah and to give you a further reference I can palm a basketball (Only with my left hand though and only on some days when my arthritis isn't acting up.) so my mitts are a mite larger than average.
Okay found my little dudes so we can get a comparison for scale. The guy in the officers cap seems a bit on the dwarfish size what with the extra long arm
http://i.imgur.com/DB4ib.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/shrU9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/icYeX.jpg
but the pilot seats as of now only in their crude state are coming along pretty good.
http://i.imgur.com/fb0iu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qVamq.jpg
I have some bilateral amputees that I am auditioning for the role of Princep and I need some sort of a vessel to ensconce him in but there seems plenty of room in the cockpit for half a dozen crewmen if I want.
I need to find another sentinel pilot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/12 17:13:35
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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I say go for a sensory tank of some kind. You could paint him up, then entomb him with some kind of water effects tinted slightly green.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/12 17:23:49
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Yeah I've an idea for some greenish gelatin stuff and a LED to illuminate the tank. I think I might just need to get out more............ Automatically Appended Next Post: More pipes and conduits to nowhere where will it end????????? I'm getting kind of a Giger-esque feeling about this helmet detail. That is one twisted dude..........
http://i.imgur.com/Doi42.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3Soqy.jpg
I don't know where I'm going from this point so I just left the raw ends of the piping
I case you're wondering............
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/12 23:36:37
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Looking sharp. Nice little chairs you made there. Depending on the application, using hot glue in a tank with an LED could be effective.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/14 14:42:33
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/14 16:23:22
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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This is the coolest thing ever. If I were wealthy, I'd pay you to build me one. Let me win that lottery!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/15 21:00:04
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Okay no excuses left tomorrow I'm gonna have to mount the head on the neck and the neck in the hull and I hope I can come up with a solution to how to allow the head to turn on the neck with that verdammen fürs luggen' cowl extension.
http://i.imgur.com/sA3Ix.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hy8af.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FK7Q4.jpg
Glad theres no one around on the weekend to witness these problems...............
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"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 04:58:33
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Armored Iron Breaker
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 16:45:22
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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While I am revamping the neck mount its time to address an issue I have found unsatisfactory in my rendering of the lip area. In the DS model and here is where he gets kudos in artistic ability.
http://i.imgur.com/sBVA7.jpg
The lip area beneath the vent cowl is slightly drooping which give it a badass appearance.
http://i.imgur.com/F2HJ7.jpg
On my model that is not apparent being rather flat in line with the base line of the keel piece.
http://i.imgur.com/B2DK1.jpg
So I am modifying it to give it a more Hapsburgian visage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/16 21:06:27
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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antenociti's workshop do a bacta tank.
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The USS Orinoco was a Federation Danube-class runabout that was in service with Starfleet in the late 24th century, attached to Deep Space 9. It was outfitted with a sensor pod.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 14:23:40
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Thanks, this is one of the many benefits of posting a thread.
I have considered a bacta tank but hadn't a source for it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 15:16:19
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Got a link, because I can't find a bacta tank or anything like it on their site?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/17 16:04:00
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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I spite of my best efforts to pose everything as it should be the helmet slipped forward 6.0mm whilst I was taking the picture.
Be that as it may the head is looking pretty good in this the final position of course I shall have to keep looking at the pictures to confirm I am not being delusional.
The legs being able to support the upper body weight that most everyone was concerned with appears not to be an issue but the axle screws do need tightening as the knees are squatted back on their stops.
Once everything is completely built I'll replace the temporary screws with locking screws and washers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/18 06:23:29
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Armored Iron Breaker
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/18 21:17:05
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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I seem to have committed a No No..........
Ist der Führer verboten?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/19 14:24:52
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Everything is coming together as if it were planned which it wasn't (at least consciously). There is sufficient room on either side of the plug in neck for fillets to cover the neck movements in these the three following images it demonstrates the 20°+ of neck lateral travel.
http://i.imgur.com/gddD6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NctoX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fuJ4a.jpg
In the two following images the fillets allow for sliding blast doors in the neck vestibule and still allow for the head to tilt down.......... Egad!
http://i.imgur.com/fuJ4a.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/p5Uf4.jpg
The fillets will also allow for the various geegaws and cryptic detail associated with the complexity of the flight station/cockpit. Automatically Appended Next Post: The Blackadder is not certifiably insane (my mother had me tested) but I do know a work of art when I see one (I may not know art but I know what I like).
Mr Smith's Warlord is worth emulating in it's entirety and in spite of the pitiful documentation I felt I wanted with some degree of latitude a facsimile so I decided to attempt a reprise.
I do not want anything other than that what is represented in the few tantalizing images gleaned from literally hours of searching the 'net.
So that said here is the cockpit as it is this date albeit sans the incredible amount of detail still to come.
http://i.imgur.com/XpE1a.jpg
And of course it is fully pose-able; my small contribution to what I consider an already perfect work of art.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/21 21:45:02
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Don't you hate it when good things happen to bad people?............I mean in the real world things are not supposed to go this well. The Heisenberg uncertainty principle states that Schroedinger's cat should be dead at least 50% of the time; Right? It's gonna be that the Mayas were correct and 12/ 21/12 is gonna be the end of the world (Hell I knew that on November 6th 12 midnight...........) So what is the Blackadder on about you say......... How do I know the world will implode??????????????? Well I just finished today's run on my little project and stupidity has taken a holiday everything is coming up roses. I can't seem to make a mistake. Witness the following images: The head from the bottom looking left: http://i.imgur.com/Hmy1Z.jpg The head from the bottom looking right: http://i.imgur.com/Jkuan.jpg The head from the side looking forward: http://i.imgur.com/OBMiO.jpg The head from the side looking down: http://i.imgur.com/IL4UB.jpg The interior of the head mechanism: http://i.imgur.com/bbehx.jpg So that's how I know the day of the LORD is upon us.... Thanks for all the fish..............
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/21 23:16:40
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Awesome work Now keep going before the stupid fairy turns up to mess everything up!
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