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2015/02/24 19:07:04
Subject: Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
Frazzled wrote: Glenn is a primary character and a show favorite. Nothing is going to happen to Glenn.
I hope that's not true.
Spoiler:
Kind of spoils Maggie's arc if Glenn's still alive...
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2015/02/24 19:11:17
Subject: Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
Frazzled wrote: Glenn is a primary character and a show favorite. Nothing is going to happen to Glenn.
Doesn't have to be Glenn.
Spoiler:
Somebody else could get brained execution style.
Well between Daryl and Glenn, Glenn's going to to go.
Spoiler:
They might find a less disturbing way to do it on the show, but that really seems like a fixed point to me. It sets up who Negan is and lucille is almost as iconic a character as Glenn is
It might explain why thy brought Noah with them. Poor kid, might as well be named next to die.
2015/02/24 19:27:08
Subject: Re:Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
Is shot through the eye with a crossbow bolt and killed in their first encounter with the Saviours?
Yeah... I think that'll happen to Daryl, not Abraham.
I doubt that. The first is more popular than the second.
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2015/02/24 19:35:45
Subject: Re:Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
Is shot through the eye with a crossbow bolt and killed in their first encounter with the Saviours?
Yeah... I think that'll happen to Daryl, not Abraham.
No. This is a TV series with big money riding. They are not going to kill off primary, beloved characters.
Rick, Carl, Daryl, Glenn, and Maggie are safe. You will lose major portions of your audience if any of these guys go away. What happens in the comics is utterly irrelevant.
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2015/02/24 19:36:00
Subject: Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
Is shot through the eye with a crossbow bolt and killed in their first encounter with the Saviours?
Yeah... I think that'll happen to Daryl, not Abraham.
No. This is a TV series with big money riding. They are not going to kill off primary, beloved characters.
Rick, Carl, Daryl, Glenn, and Maggie are safe. You will lose major portions of your audience if any of these guys go away. What happens in the comics is utterly irrelevant.
Not sure why you think Glenn would be spared- he's just Diet Rick.
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Is shot through the eye with a crossbow bolt and killed in their first encounter with the Saviours?
Yeah... I think that'll happen to Daryl, not Abraham.
No. This is a TV series with big money riding. They are not going to kill off primary, beloved characters.
Rick, Carl, Daryl, Glenn, and Maggie are safe. You will lose major portions of your audience if any of these guys go away. What happens in the comics is utterly irrelevant.
Why not? It works for Game Of Thrones.
2015/02/24 19:38:00
Subject: Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
I've been very meh to the show since Beth died, and she wasn't a major character.
But I may be approaching done at this point. I look forward to Better Call Saul way more.
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2015/02/24 19:41:03
Subject: Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
I've been very meh to the show since Beth died, and she wasn't a major character.
But I may be approaching done at this point. I look forward to Better Call Saul way more.
I'm still posses they killed her off. Her kidnapping was what got me back into the show. Waiting a year to get her back to the group just to have her iced beforehand just soured my mood.
Exactly. Thats cheap BS in my book, especially how it felt MADE UP OH CRAP BETH'S CONTRACT RAN OUT WE HAVE TO KILL HER OFF.
Tyreese didn't bug me because I felt his character was really underutilized.
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2015/02/24 20:48:06
Subject: Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
The creator joked on the @Midnight "Walking Dead Episode" that Glenn is going to get his head bashed in by a dude named Negan with a baseball bat named lucille. I'm doubting it happens.
As for characters that can't die that are in the group due to probably ratings/major story complications:
First Tier (Unkillable)
Michonne, Rick, Carl, Daryl, Judith.
Second Tier (Less likely to die)
Glenn and Maggie are close to that group and so is Carol.
Third Tier (Depending on plot development could move up or down)
Sasha, Eugene, Abraham, Preacher, Rosita. With the preacher being the only one likely to drop down instead of stay the same or move up.
Fourth Tier (waiting to die)
Noah, Tara
This isn't counting people who appeared this week. That said I dont' think we're looking at a group death until the finale when the introduce the new big bad. 2 people relatively well loved back to back in the middle of the season puts a bit of a kibosh on that. My money is it being Noah who goes down.
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2015/02/24 21:02:32
Subject: Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
I like your groupings. I know when Carol re-appeared the wife was major jazzed. In the Frazzled household Carol is viewed as the only realistic female from a Texan mindset.
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2015/02/24 21:22:49
Subject: Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
I'd probably rank Glenn & Maggie (together) ahead of Carol. They're the main love story on the show. Carol's a pretty popular character, and killing her off might seem cruel at this point even by TWD standards. STILL, her role is diminished now with the arrival of alpha dog Rick. She's technically kinda expendable.
Personally, I think that if the event we're talking about happens, it's going to have to be higher than a 4th tier character to have the right impact and...introduction. But we'll see.
gorgon wrote: I'd probably rank Glenn & Maggie (together) ahead of Carol. They're the main love story on the show. Carol's a pretty popular character, and killing her off might seem cruel at this point even by TWD standards. STILL, her role is diminished now with the arrival of alpha dog Rick. She's technically kinda expendable.
Personally, I think that if the event we're talking about happens, it's going to have to be higher than a 4th tier character to have the right impact and...introduction. But we'll see.
Spoiler:
If we maintain storylines from the comic:
Glenn is pretty open to die; especially since we need Maggie to become Queen on the Hill. Conversely, this means Maggie is safe.
Carol is pretty safe since she's going to replace Andrea, imo, and Andrea is pretty key in the comics.
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2015/02/24 21:27:38
Subject: Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
gorgon wrote: I'd probably rank Glenn & Maggie (together) ahead of Carol. They're the main love story on the show. Carol's a pretty popular character, and killing her off might seem cruel at this point even by TWD standards. STILL, her role is diminished now with the arrival of alpha dog Rick. She's technically kinda expendable.
Personally, I think that if the event we're talking about happens, it's going to have to be higher than a 4th tier character to have the right impact and...introduction. But we'll see.
Spoiler:
If we maintain storylines from the comic:
Glenn is pretty open to die; especially since we need Maggie to become Queen on the Hill. Conversely, this means Maggie is safe.
Carol is pretty safe since she's going to replace Andrea, imo, and Andrea is pretty key in the comics.
You really think Sasha's getting groomed to be the sniper/general badass/etc when Carol's already there?
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2015/02/24 21:30:38
Subject: Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
You really think Sasha's getting groomed to be the sniper/general badass/etc when Carol's already there?
Why assume they are even going to have one? They haven't so far.
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2015/02/24 21:41:43
Subject: Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
You really think Sasha's getting groomed to be the sniper/general badass/etc when Carol's already there?
Why assume they are even going to have one? They haven't so far.
Spoiler:
Because huge amounts of the alexandria arc involve Andrea being a badass sniper and holding the fort. The tower, etc. Kind of a big deal. And Rick needs a fallback woman, which is Andrea in the comics and probably Carol in the TV show, after the domestic punching bag gets chewed up.
went total commando on Terminus? She was basically a one woman army. Easily shot up in my top 3 favorite characters.
Spoiler:
This totally made me think she was being groomed to replace Andrea. I'm not sure why Andrea dropped out of the series when she was so important in the comics, but they need someone to take her place. After Terminus? That's totally Carol.
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2015/02/24 21:48:39
Subject: Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
You really think Sasha's getting groomed to be the sniper/general badass/etc when Carol's already there?
Spoiler:
Since Terminus, who's been doing all the sniping lately? And did you catch the clip from next week's episode with them at the gate? I really don't think there's any question that she's become the marksman in the group.
You really think Sasha's getting groomed to be the sniper/general badass/etc when Carol's already there?
Spoiler:
Since Terminus, who's been doing all the sniping lately? And did you catch the clip from next week's episode with them at the gate? I really don't think there's any question that she's become the marksman in the group.
Also I'd like to point out that
Spoiler:
Daryl is more tha enough to replace comic-book Andrea as well. Not as a sniper but second-command trouble-shooter kind of way. Actually now that I think about it, he's like a survival Eugene. Kind of has his own place I guess.
You really think Sasha's getting groomed to be the sniper/general badass/etc when Carol's already there?
Why assume they are even going to have one? They haven't so far.
Spoiler:
Because huge amounts of the alexandria arc involve Andrea being a badass sniper and holding the fort. The tower, etc. Kind of a big deal. And Rick needs a fallback woman, which is Andrea in the comics and probably Carol in the TV show, after the domestic punching bag gets chewed up.
went total commando on Terminus? She was basically a one woman army. Easily shot up in my top 3 favorite characters.
Spoiler:
This totally made me think she was being groomed to replace Andrea. I'm not sure why Andrea dropped out of the series when she was so important in the comics, but they need someone to take her place. After Terminus? That's totally Carol.
Spoiler:
they don't mneed any such person. Again the show is not the comic.
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2015/02/24 22:17:53
Subject: Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
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2015/02/24 22:26:24
Subject: Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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2015/02/24 22:27:44
Subject: Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
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2015/02/24 22:36:25
Subject: Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
In this instance I am. I view the comics as the first draft. The TV show is what happens multiple rewrites later.
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2015/02/24 23:20:34
Subject: Re:Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
Killing "beloved" characters is a brave but risky element - far easier to do it in comics where no one is put out of a job by your actions.......
I am hoping "jinx" Noah gets offed soon - I still blame him for Beth's and Tyresse deaths as well as nearly getting Carol killed.
I like the fact that this is a different story to the comics - not always what they have donewith it - the whole farm epsiodes were a waste of a season, the Governor was toned down -well acted and interesting but toned down. Bored by all of the Prison stuff , liked the aftermath - pretty much all of those espisodes were really strong charcter pieces. The Beth storyline had a major let down in its "lack of pay off".
My fav remaining characters - Carol and Daryl are either radically different in the comics (Carol) or not there (Daryl).
I am hoping they do something different with Alexandria - the most recent episode was better but not great. I'd be happy for them to kill Ric and Judith off and give Carl a whole new arc - maybe as the bad guy which seemed to be posisble in earlier epsiodes - ain't gonna happen but I'd like to see what happens - Glenn taking over the reigns would work, backed by Daryl, Abraham and Carol, but then Daryl was def on the edge of just walking off into the woods a few times..............
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I suppose it's a question of: Who can they tell the most stories with?
Admittedly, that didn't work with Beth... I really was banking on Carol dying and Beth carrying the torch.
But still...
Noah's got legs (hurr hurr hurr), and lots of potential for character growth.
Eugene has a redemption arc to earn. So he's safe.
Sascha, I dunno, she might die in the next episode or two, or she'll have quite a long arc. It depends whether they go suicidal or have her working through the losses. - She might very well become a focal point character soon.
Glenn and Maggie? Well, with Glenn's words of 'I was wrong, it really does matter' in the last episode, puts him squarely in the 'moral compass' crosshairs. So I think there's good odds on him being the next to go.
Michonne, still too mysterious-ish, there's plenty of things that can be done with her.
Abraham HAS now reached Washington, technically. I can see a 'journeys end' situation with dying in sight of the Washington Monument.
Daryl and Carol. - I think they're going to explore most stuff with those 2 now. EG how they struggle adapting to Alexandria. They're probably safe for a while at least.
So, my votes for Abraham and Glenn as the next major characters on the chopping block.
2015/02/24 23:32:31
Subject: Re:Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)
Mr Morden wrote: give Carl a whole new arc - maybe as the bad guy which seemed to be posisble in earlier epsiodes - ain't gonna happen but I'd like to see what happens.
Oh trust me...Theres more to come. Carl's gonna be working through some, ugh, issues...soon enough.
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