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That's what I thought. Could be a brutal mid-season finale.

Funny thing is Rick's crew already knows you can fight with hand weapons and win against stupid numbers of walkers if you don't break. That's how they cleared the prison. They've just gotten lazy because zombies haven't really been the threat for the last season 2 seasons Though to be fair there are all of what, 6 people left from that group and 2 of them are outside the walls and one inside is a teen.

Might be part of why they showed Rosita training people though. So that if they go that route they have an excuse for it working.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking when seeing the training. Now they just need a few dozen sets of Gladius and Tower Shield and they'll be good to go.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Yes to the woman and son.

However, it will be really interesting to see what might change from the comic.

edit: nevermind. I think you may be right.

 gorgon wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Yes to the woman and son.

However, it will be really interesting to see what might change from the comic.

Spoiler:

I still think Jessie has a chance to live by picking up comic Andrea's storyline. That's a sizable hole in the show storyline, and they're still doing that blender thing in the translation from comic to show. Note that in the comic it was Holly who had a fling with Abraham. Of course, Holly is already dead in the show (having died on the table), and now Sasha seems to be picking up that material.

On the other hand, Jessie's fate in the comic would certainly get some watercooler talk going the next day.

Still, I could easily see Jessie surviving and Sasha ending up being the one at the Sanctuary in place of Holly.

Not sure but I thought

They're blending skill sets and attitudes quite a bit. I feel like Carol actually picked up quite a bit of the Andrea personality up to where I'd read in the comics. Sasha just has the sharp shooter thing going for her which Carol proved she could do just fine at Terminus.

 Hulksmash wrote:
They're blending skill sets and attitudes quite a bit. I feel like Carol actually picked up quite a bit of the Andrea personality up to where I'd read in the comics. Sasha just has the sharp shooter thing going for her which Carol proved she could do just fine at Terminus.

Carol kicks ass full stop

Also a friend suggested ?

Personally I hope not as I find the comics character cool and the Tv show one deeply, (Noah style) annoying

Actually



And regarding Andrea, that's one of the major mistakes made early in the show, IMO (right there with "splitting" comic Rick into TV Rick and Shane). She's a great character...I have no idea why they translated her into someone so unlikable. And they're still juggling characters trying to correct the situation and fill that void. Right now there's no one character who replaces comic Andrea, nor do I think there will be...that role effectively has been dispersed over a few female characters.

Which I actually think is good. It gives more story and individuality to the various females on the show.

As for the show Andrea yeah. I don't know why she was so horrible in the show. But that was back when they were consciously trying to distance themselves from the comics. Gimple has a different style and approach (and it's working very, very well for TWD) than the first 2 show runners had. Show runner 3 and Gimple worked on shifting it back to the comics.

Not too much I hope as I quite like many of the changes so far.

 Alpharius wrote:
Not too much I hope as I quite like many of the changes so far.

That's actually something I really enjoy. I LIKE that I can watch the show without having people who've read the comics spoiling big things for me, even accidentally.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Not too much I hope as I quite like many of the changes so far.

That's actually something I really enjoy. I LIKE that I can watch the show without having people who've read the comics spoiling big things for me, even accidentally.

Its definately a good thing to go their own way - even if i think the comics story has been better overall - some good stuff in the show - Daryl/ Carol/Beth and others........

We just watched the latest epsiode - lots of good Rick stuff, not enough Carol but its coming
Happy to see Glenn alive but wasn't bothered either way really
Looks like another cull of non name and vaguely recall their name Alexandrians coming up - jeez they keep finding more of them to sacrrfice - there must have been loads that never did anything or came to any of the meetings
Former gun bunny girl was fun with the machette training - hopefully they kill offf the priest and the fake scientist.

Finally they called Morgan out on his B@$gak - Hurrah!!
Except not enough - given his action towards the end - seriously........I'd rather let someone else do the hard things cos I don't want to.........lets see who else dies as a direct result of my actions so I can feel a bit bad. even worse lets conceal insane psychos that could break free or turn into zombies - total idiot.

I don't think the "help" could have been Glenn considering the timing of when you saw it happen in the previous episode. Daryl, Abraham and what's her name all spent the night somewhere and then met up sometime during the next day and headed back to Alexandria, which is when they heard the "help". That's about the same time when Glenn is on the road walking back to Alexandria himself.

So I'm pretty sure it is going to be someone inside of Alexandria trapped by walkers who calls out for "help".

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Not too much I hope as I quite like many of the changes so far.

That's actually something I really enjoy. I LIKE that I can watch the show without having people who've read the comics spoiling big things for me, even accidentally.

It's fun for the people who have read the comics too.

I have reasons to think that one female character might die in the very next episode. And I have reasons to think that she might be a cast member 3 seasons from now. I really don't know which way it's going to go, even though I know where the larger story's headed.

Ive been following the show for a while, and I got as far as book 7 in the comics, am I right in saying that there is a little bit too much filler content in the show or is that me just being picky?

 Daemonhammer wrote:
Ive been following the show for a while, and I got as far as book 7 in the comics, am I right in saying that there is a little bit too much filler content in the show or is that me just being picky?

Thats always going to be subjective - I think there is too much - others will disagree It only matters if you think there is or is not.

There is actually a hell of a lot of filler in the show. Usually its good. They really know how to stretch out the source material.

The Terminus Cannibals and Wolves were originally very small and minor groups who only appeared in a handful of issues each, but the show inflated their numbers and turned them into several episode long story arcs.

I find the little conversations they have, the little heart-to-hearts, in the show....not good most of the time. Many times in the comic I've been taken aback or really interested in the conversation but not in the show. Maybe it's me, maybe I pay more attention to written fiction than spoken but I honestly think the show's dialogue isn't that great. For some reason they take the overall arc of the comic but none of the dialogue. They seem to completely rewrite all dialogue from scratch for the show which is a shame because the book has a pretty good script IMO.

Hmmm, that scene with the Wolf guy escaping might have been the dumbest thing TWD has ever done.

 yakface wrote:

Hmmm, that scene with the Wolf guy escaping might have been the dumbest thing TWD has ever done.

It is definitely right up there...

We're supposed to think he can make it out of there alive and well, dragging Denise along?

I suppose we might find out that he just offs her ASAP, but still...

All I can say towards the end of the show.....duck tape.....should have used duck tape

 Alpharius wrote:

 yakface wrote:

Hmmm, that scene with the Wolf guy escaping might have been the dumbest thing TWD has ever done.

It is definitely right up there...

We're supposed to think he can make it out of there alive and well, dragging Denise along?

I suppose we might find out that he just offs her ASAP, but still...

I don't think we're meant to think anything other than that he went out the door, which apparently wasn't crowded with walkers when Carol and Morgan entered. I expect the next episode will pick up seconds after this one ended, so I'm sure we'll get some quick resolution. I don't think Denise is going to die, and won't be surprised if we get some kind of minor twist involving the Wolf.

Morgan may have been wrong to let him live, but he was right that it was something that could have waited given the situation outside. Carol's losing her grip...that was NOT the clear-headed Carol we're used to seeing.

It's also interesting to note that Sam, who has gone full-on crazy recluse ever since being traumatized by Carol (something they reminded us of with his drawing), is also about to get people killed. Although given the horrific situation, I doubt pre-trauma Sam would have kept his gak together. It will be very interesting to see if the escape there goes as it did in the comic. If so...that'll get some water cooler talk going next year. LOL.

And of course, the preview gave us the first official mention of one Mr. Negan.

No need to be shy - post that link for the scene in question!

So if not for the Wolf scene I would have mostly enjoyed tonights episode (only other issue is the "cliffhanger/unresolved" crap that they normally don't do). That scene did dampen my enjoyment though. The sheer stupid of it was frustrating.

Carl was awesome. And a huge change from the kid who blasted a dude who might or might not have been surrendering.

Good point on Carl, and yeah, the whole "Wolf Arc" is just...dumb.

The Wolves are, in the Apocalypse, not a redeemable group - or at least the W Man we know isn't.

I guess I'd agree that the scene and what led up to it was kinda dumb, other than as a way to give those two good actors a dramatic moment and create a kind of physical manifestation of the battle for Alexandria's soul.

But again, perhaps it was an intentional choice to show that Carol -- although not wrong -- is headed for a breakdown. There's no reason to pick THAT fight -- which she's probably not going to win -- at that juncture while her people are in trouble. Morgan tells her as much.

Deanna was fething badass! Choosing to give them hell instead of meekly opting out like Nicholas, and that roar of defiance.

And the manner of her death I think may settle the debate once and for all over a certain upcoming, er...injury.



It could also happen to a different character. They could pull a Merle Dixon again, and do it to a minor supporting character rather than a main cast character, so they can cut costs on prosthetics and special effects simply because the supporting character features in fewer episodes.

I think it is more likely that



Though maybe that's too obvious now?

 Alpharius wrote:
I think it is more likely that

Spoiler:

Ron will "accidentally" shoot Carl's eye out.

Though maybe that's too obvious now?

carl did take his gun away.