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My point was even though she is meant to be smart she doesn't ever actually do anything smart in game.

Does anyone but the Doctor ever do anything smart in game?

Only really obvious things, but the Doctor tells them it's smart and apparently also kisses them, too.

 Corpsesarefun wrote:
My point was even though she is meant to be smart she doesn't ever actually do anything smart in game.

Oh, I understood that, but my point was that there isn't a lot that she can do in game other than doctor stuff.

Heh, didn't even notice that I said "in game" but I suppose it's a valid analogy to use among wargamers.

My point was that she should've done more doctor stuff.

 Corpsesarefun wrote:
Heh, didn't even notice that I said "in game" but I suppose it's a valid analogy to use among wargamers.

My point was that she should've done more doctor stuff.

Now that I think about it a cool twist would've been if she'd somehow saved the 10th Doctor's life at some point.

I think the Doctor needs a single male companion, around 22 or so, bored with life and he and the doctor go on adventures and they become best of friends, then something horrible happens to him like all the companions.
And no girl following them around.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I think the Doctor needs a single male companion, around 22 or so, bored with life and he and the doctor go on adventures and they become best of friends, then something horrible happens to him like all the companions.
And no girl following them around.

That would be interesting, but I suppose they won't want to break their current 21st century sex appeal stamp on everything that the show's had since revival. In fact I remember there were quite a few one or two episode 'companions' the 10th and 11th had, but sadly they never featured beyond that.

 Darkvoidof40k wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I think the Doctor needs a single male companion, around 22 or so, bored with life and he and the doctor go on adventures and they become best of friends, then something horrible happens to him like all the companions.
And no girl following them around.

That would be interesting, but I suppose they won't want to break their current 21st century sex appeal stamp on everything that the show's had since revival. In fact I remember there were quite a few one or two episode 'companions' the 10th and 11th had, but sadly they never featured beyond that.

That and Steven Moffat only seems to write the same sexy, sassy, attractive, sitcom-girl characters in everything, particularly if you're actually familiar with his sitcom work. It's there quite strongly in the last episode with Queen Nefertiti and the dalek-girl from the last episode, that will be his future companion, is a very clear example. Amy, River and others exhibit similar traits... it's a bit predictable to be honest, the characterisation of the dalek-girl was not at all inspired.

Yeah, They are supposed to come off as strong women, but they come off and pushy and abusive. I felt as the thing between Rory and her about not having kids was way to forced. She Just came off as chewing the scenery.
We need a different companion.


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Also I still say that one guy who defeated the cyberman to save his baby deserves to bee a companion, with his baby. He will run around with his baby carrier on his front fighting daleks. And one episode will be the baby getting loose on the TARDIS and breaking it.
Imagine the wacky adventure, The Doctor and the baby.

Yeah, They are supposed to come off as strong women, but they come off and pushy and abusive

Really? I think they come quite annoying at times when they're confident in a really bad situation, like Amys "Geromino" before they entered the prison planet.

Moffats companions seem to be more similar to each other then RTDs were.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Yeah, They are supposed to come off as strong women, but they come off and pushy and abusive. I felt as the thing between Rory and her about not having kids was way to forced. She Just came off as chewing the scenery.
We need a different companion.


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Also I still say that one guy who defeated the cyberman to save his baby deserves to bee a companion, with his baby. He will run around with his baby carrier on his front fighting daleks. And one episode will be the baby getting loose on the TARDIS and breaking it.
Imagine the wacky adventure, The Doctor and the baby.

As much as I truly, deeply, hated that episode for its ending, that would be funny. "Daddy Doctor" would have to be the episode's name, for sure.

I was actually hoping that he got a dalek sidekick. Not just the hot girl in it. Imagine the doctor showing up everywhere with a dalek in tow, would be interesting to say the least. Plus they could keep the smoking hot companion thing but add a twist. How can he fall in love with a Dalek?


While I'm on the subject of hot companions, that girl almost got me in hot water with the misses, shes so good to look at i forgot me Julie was in the room for a minute and was like daaamn. She got all pissy that the doctors sidekicks keep getting hotter and hotter. Don't get me wrong, and I'm sure some people will disagree the ginger was hot but shes got nothing on the new one IMO.

Meh, i prefer amy.

I actually weirdly wish they had made James Corden his newest assistant, the episodes that Matt and James have been in together are excellent and it would add a great new dynamic to the show to break out of this pushy, head strong female assistant who eventually is hurt or broken routine.

The concept of him having a best friend rather than a partial love interest would make for an interesting plot point and the fact that his girlfriend/baby could tag along also in some episodes makes for an interesting break or two into something very different.

Don't get me wrong I enjoy sexy assistants as much as the next guy, but I do watch for the story/plot....... honestly

 Rysaer wrote:
I actually weirdly wish they had made James Corden his newest assistant, the episodes that Matt and James have been in together are excellent and it would add a great new dynamic to the show to break out of this pushy, head strong female assistant who eventually is hurt or broken routine.

The concept of him having a best friend rather than a partial love interest would make for an interesting plot point and the fact that his girlfriend/baby could tag along also in some episodes makes for an interesting break or two into something very different.

Don't get me wrong I enjoy sexy assistants as much as the next guy, but I do watch for the story/plot....... honestly

O GOD no! PLEASE!

I didnt like Corben as an 'assistant' in the episodes he was in (apart from being vaguely funny, i hated those episodes with only one exception, the line 'there is no second floor'...) i dont want him in any more...

yes, i agree there shouldnt always being a pretty assistant just to make the Doctor interested (loved Rose as a love interest, and the way she kept being referred to in the 'one that got away' type of thing, but hated how they kept bringing in more women to continue the idea. It also didnt work when Tennant left, introducing a (taken) female as a love interest is just wrong (not that im unhappy with Amy at all as a pretty girl on screen )

I quite liked him to be honest but I get that he isn't everyones cup of tea, it doesn't even have to be James Corden, I'd just like a male assistant for a change.

I agree though the whole Rose love interest was great as it was handled very well and felt genuine, but ever since then we've had the same assistant plot forced on us time and time again with little to no success. The Amy/Rory/Doctor love triangle sort of thing was just a bit strange and pretty wrong really.

What would be interesting would be an actual alien assistant, it opens thousands of new opportunities and stories, but I get that the Doctors love of humans is probably the reason we won't see this anytime soon.

 Rysaer wrote:
I quite liked him to be honest but I get that he isn't everyones cup of tea, it doesn't even have to be James Corden, I'd just like a male assistant for a change.

I wouldnt mind a different person (with a different character/backstory) but not Corben, it felt too much like a gimmick (exactly like Tate tbh).

 Rysaer wrote:
I agree though the whole Rose love interest was great as it was handled very well and felt genuine, but ever since then we've had the same assistant plot forced on us time and time again with little to no success. The Amy/Rory/Doctor love triangle sort of thing was just a bit strange and pretty wrong really.

Agreed on all counts. Especially with Rose's exit (the last thing the Doctor saying across the rift, but not quite being able to say it in time...choked me up im not ashamed to admit). Actually starting to get bored of the triangle, it was fun when he was first introduced (who the hell is this? Why is he so close to you? That sort of thing), but is getting more tired the longer they play on it...

 Rysaer wrote:
What would be interesting would be an actual alien assistant, it opens thousands of new opportunities and stories, but I get that the Doctors love of humans is probably the reason we won't see this anytime soon.

Definitely. As said earler on, there have been alien assistants before, the problem is that they all 'just happen' to look entirely human...some like Chan Tho (the assistant to the Master before he got his memories) would be cool (although the voice may get irritating), or the daughter of the dryad woman from series one (the new series), one of the cat-people, something like that...theyve done compassionate (Rose, Tate, Martha till she went UNIT), theyve done ruthless (River, Captain Jack to an extent), they need something different, logical maybe? (robot - the upoming Dalek, obviously ) but with something to balance that out (a psychic empath like Deanna Troy from ST: TNG? that way they could argue everything out, allowing the Doctor to make his own choices in the background, allowing the 'darker' side of the Doctor that weve been seeing recently to come forward maybe?

Just my thoughts..

 Revenent Reiko wrote:
I wouldnt mind a different person (with a different character/backstory) but not Corben, it felt too much like a gimmick (exactly like Tate tbh).

Yeah I can relate to that, I think it's because this is the only thing I've ever actually watched with James in it I probably have more tolerance to him, I never watched Gavin and Stacy etc, but I agree that Catherine Tate did feel more like a gimmick.

Agreed on all counts. Especially with Rose's exit (the last thing the Doctor saying across the rift, but not quite being able to say it in time...choked me up im not ashamed to admit). Actually starting to get bored of the triangle, it was fun when he was first introduced (who the hell is this? Why is he so close to you? That sort of thing), but is getting more tired the longer they play on it.

I was genuinely choked up for a good bit, don't worry, it's man tears

Also it was amusing at first I agree, but it has reached that stage where it is getting very tired/stale.

Definitely. As said earler on, there have been alien assistants before, the problem is that they all 'just happen' to look entirely human...some like Chan Tho (the assistant to the Master before he got his memories) would be cool (although the voice may get irritating), or the daughter of the dryad woman from series one (the new series), one of the cat-people, something like that...theyve done sompassionate (Rose, Tate, Martha till she went UNIT), theyve done ruthless (River, Captain Jack to an extent), they need something different, logical maybe? (robot - the upoming Dalek, obviously ) but with something to balance that out (a psychic empath like Deanna Troy from ST: TNG? that way they could argue everything out, allowing the Doctor to make his own choices in the background, allowing the 'darker' side of the Doctor that weve been seeing recently to come forward maybe?

Just my thoughts..

Yeah that would be awesome, and I agree with everything you've said here.

What I would actually find quite interesting is to play on the Doctors loneliness, they should bring someone like the Dream Lord back as he continues to travel alone, to nibble at the back of his mind and generally mislead/trick/counteract the Doctor. It would make for some interesting story arcs as well as giving us more a glimpse of the Doctors real psyche.

Going in I thought Tate would be very much a gimmick, and that it would bring down the quality of the show, (to clarify, I hate the catherine tate show, and pretty much everything else I've seen her do) but I think ultimately, at the end of the day, she actually did quite well - she conveyed a very human perspective to it, and while bossy / full of it, she played the part well, certainly enough to counter my intial reaction and to make me feel that the Donna episodes were some of the better ones (certainly better than the martha season).

 Rysaer wrote:

 Revenent Reiko wrote:
I wouldnt mind a different person (with a different character/backstory) but not Corben, it felt too much like a gimmick (exactly like Tate tbh).

Yeah I can relate to that, I think it's because this is the only thing I've ever actually watched with James in it I probably have more tolerance to him, I never watched Gavin and Stacy etc, but I agree that Catherine Tate did feel more like a gimmick.

I never watched any of that either, but i was aware of it. I just dont like dumping a recognised comedian into a show like DW really adds anything to it other than gimmick value. Tate was alright because she added a strong female at the same time, was still quite annoying after a while.

 Rysaer wrote:

Agreed on all counts. Especially with Rose's exit (the last thing the Doctor saying across the rift, but not quite being able to say it in time...choked me up im not ashamed to admit). Actually starting to get bored of the triangle, it was fun when he was first introduced (who the hell is this? Why is he so close to you? That sort of thing), but is getting more tired the longer they play on it.

I was genuinely choked up for a good bit, don't worry, it's man tears

Also it was amusing at first I agree, but it has reached that stage where it is getting very tired/stale.

Assuming im a man...? Only kidding, i am Agree though, there are times when its acceptable (and there is the whole 'if it makes you feel that way, it was done well, because it was meant to).

 Rysaer wrote:

Definitely. As said earler on, there have been alien assistants before, the problem is that they all 'just happen' to look entirely human...some like Chan Tho (the assistant to the Master before he got his memories) would be cool (although the voice may get irritating), or the daughter of the dryad woman from series one (the new series), one of the cat-people, something like that...theyve done sompassionate (Rose, Tate, Martha till she went UNIT), theyve done ruthless (River, Captain Jack to an extent), they need something different, logical maybe? (robot - the upoming Dalek, obviously ) but with something to balance that out (a psychic empath like Deanna Troy from ST: TNG? that way they could argue everything out, allowing the Doctor to make his own choices in the background, allowing the 'darker' side of the Doctor that weve been seeing recently to come forward maybe?

Just my thoughts..

Yeah that would be awesome, and I agree with everything you've said here.

What I would actually find quite interesting is to play on the Doctors loneliness, they should bring someone like the Dream Lord back as he continues to travel alone, to nibble at the back of his mind and generally mislead/trick/counteract the Doctor. It would make for some interesting story arcs as well as giving us more a glimpse of the Doctors real psyche.

Thank you.

I mostly agree, but they played around with that after Rose left. I got a bit tired of the thousand yard stare Tennant was forced to adopt episode after episode, kind of ruined the poignancy of the season ending from before actually. I think there has been enough of the loneliness of the Doctor 'on his own', i think a much better idea would be for him to have a larger group of companions like previous Doctors, but while they are celebrating a victory (over a generic, but dangerous enemy, doesnt really matter who as such....), he is left out, not feeling the same sense of achievement because its nothing new anymore. Focus more on him getting jaded, sick of the endless cycle of saving everyone/everything with noone to really help, losing his will to go on...he could even give up on it for a while, and Watch the Galaxy Burn (see what i did there? ).

I like the idea of the Dream Lord though, they never brought that back like i thought they would, wouldnt be a bad time to do it actually, but as a villain over a number of stories, affecting everything, manipulating everything like other enemies have before, but from within the Doctor's mind as opposed to being a tangible enemy like previous villains.


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 Ovion wrote:
Going in I thought Tate would be very much a gimmick, and that it would bring down the quality of the show, (to clarify, I hate the catherine tate show, and pretty much everything else I've seen her do) but I think ultimately, at the end of the day, she actually did quite well - she conveyed a very human perspective to it, and while bossy / full of it, she played the part well, certainly enough to counter my intial reaction and to make me feel that the Donna episodes were some of the better ones (certainly better than the martha season).

Agreed, mostly...

Completely agree with going in pre-disposed to not liking her, and finding out she actually did quite well. My problem with her was that the character only seemed to have depth to it when it was written in (not sure that makes much sense), but she did prtray the character she was given very well.

Meh, give me a companion who wacks people.
Companion Bob: Oh no we're surrounded by X!
Doctor: I'll just get out my sonic scredriv
(wack wack wack) Companion Bob: ok we're good. Lets go.
Doctor: er...wow.

Or a companion that challenges his cutesy stick his nose in ethics.

I like a Dalek companion myself. Doctor can control to an extent but sometimes its just got to let a little EXTERMINATE! hang out.

 Frazzled wrote:
Meh, give me a companion who wacks people.
Companion Bob: Oh no we're surrounded by X!
Doctor: I'll just get out my sonic scredriv
(wack wack wack) Companion Bob: ok we're good. Lets go.
Doctor: er...wow.

Her name was Ace, she was the last companion of the original series, and she beat a Dalek with a ball bat and had a penchant for explosives.

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Meh, give me a companion who wacks people.
Companion Bob: Oh no we're surrounded by X!
Doctor: I'll just get out my sonic scredriv
(wack wack wack) Companion Bob: ok we're good. Lets go.
Doctor: er...wow.

Her name was Ace, she was the last companion of the original series, and she beat a Dalek with a ball bat and had a penchant for explosives.

Sounds like my wife. She drive a red van?

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Meh, give me a companion who wacks people.
Companion Bob: Oh no we're surrounded by X!
Doctor: I'll just get out my sonic scredriv
(wack wack wack) Companion Bob: ok we're good. Lets go.
Doctor: er...wow.

Her name was Ace, she was the last companion of the original series, and she beat a Dalek with a ball bat and had a penchant for explosives.

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I preferred leela, she was hot, And had a habit of killing things.

Just jumping in here.

I always thought a cool character to reintroduce is the Doctor's daughter, from the episode where his genes are used to clone her from a single parent. She would make a cool companion, or maybe have the two of them meet once in a while. Plus, the actress was really cute!

I have to admit I was kinda disappointed when River Song didn't turn out to be her in the end. That would have been just as interesting a twist.

Just wondered what she's been off doing while the Doctor gets all the screen-time.

Well That Was Tennants Wife(and the Daughter of the 5th doctor's Actor)
So there may be conflict.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Well That Was Tennants Wife(and the Daughter of the 5th doctor's Actor)
So there may be conflict.

I knew she was Peter Davisons daughter but I didn't realise she was married to David Tennant.

Learn something new every day, also I heartily agree with you AegisGrimm she is really cute.

 Frazzled wrote:
Meh, give me a companion who wacks people.
Companion Bob: Oh no we're surrounded by X!
Doctor: I'll just get out my sonic scredriv
(wack wack wack) Companion Bob: ok we're good. Lets go.
Doctor: er...wow.

Or a companion that challenges his cutesy stick his nose in ethics.

I like a Dalek companion myself. Doctor can control to an extent but sometimes its just got to let a little EXTERMINATE! hang out.

Isn't that what River did?

"oh you're zapping something with your sonic screwdriver? allow me to shoot everyone"

sirlynchmob wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Meh, give me a companion who wacks people.
Companion Bob: Oh no we're surrounded by X!
Doctor: I'll just get out my sonic scredriv
(wack wack wack) Companion Bob: ok we're good. Lets go.
Doctor: er...wow.

Her name was Ace, she was the last companion of the original series, and she beat a Dalek with a ball bat and had a penchant for explosives.

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I preferred leela, she was hot, And had a habit of killing things.

Leela was indeed a wonderful companion. There's a rather charming moment in "The Talons of Weng-Chiang" in which the Doctor finds himself obliged to deflect the police from investigating the deaths she caused rather than the murders carried out by the story's villain.