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Also, Simplist way to defeat an angel.
Mirrors, Tape one to the back of your head, and a few to your front, and any angel that attacks you sees its own reflection.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Also, Simplist way to defeat an angel.
Mirrors, Tape one to the back of your head, and a few to your front, and any angel that attacks you sees its own reflection.

This man, right here, is genius.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Also, Simplist way to defeat an angel.
Mirrors, Tape one to the back of your head, and a few to your front, and any angel that attacks you sees its own reflection.

That would only work if there was a light source, and angels aren't too dangerous in the daylight anyway.

 Testify wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Also, Simplist way to defeat an angel.
Mirrors, Tape one to the back of your head, and a few to your front, and any angel that attacks you sees its own reflection.

That would only work if there was a light source, and angels aren't too dangerous in the daylight anyway.

Well, one in the daylight did zap Rory and Amy away.
Angels are awsome!

I liked the episode, Weeping Angels are by far my favorite villain in Doctor Who, I agree they're not as scary as they used to be in "Blink", but when you have an entire planet of them, you kinda throw your hand a little early.

I felt it was actually a sad way to go for Amy and Rory, killing them off without actually killing them... (Just don't let me know that all of the recent companions have been killed off without being killed off)

Also, River is getting near the end of her life in the series as well isn't she? This is the first time since meeting the 10th in the "Silence in the Library" that she is mentioned to be a professor. So, we might not be seeing much of her in the future. Though granted, with the whole, "she's a time traveler" we could be stuck with her for a while.

Yeah, remember, they have to ask each other what order they're meeting in.

And here's one for you: Sure, 1938 is off limits, but how about 1939? Sure, they were sent back in time, but there's a lot of time back there where they were, not just that year. The Doctor does not think things through terribly well. And how did the move at all? As the Doctor puts it New York is, after all, the City that Never Sleeps. Wouldn't there ALWAYS be someone looking?

Why not land in New Jersey in 1938, and cross the river?

It's all governed by the need to generate plot points, of course.

I keep missing every new episode so far... Pfft. Maybe should track them down they sound so awesome!

They are on BBC iPlayer Sharazad (so free so long as you have a TV license...).

Also, yeah, full of holes an pretty terribly done. I am disappointed.

 Sharazad wrote:
I keep missing every new episode so far... Pfft. Maybe should track them down they sound so awesome!

You can see them all on the Doctor Who website.

 Revenent Reiko wrote:
They are on BBC iPlayer Sharazad (so free so long as you have a TV license...).

Also, yeah, full of holes an pretty terribly done. I am disappointed.

 Darkvoidof40k wrote:

 Sharazad wrote:
I keep missing every new episode so far... Pfft. Maybe should track them down they sound so awesome!

You can see them all on the Doctor Who website.

Thanks you two I will do so

No worries.

The 'Pond Life' episodes are still on YouTube as well AFAIK...

Fairly good episode, though still not a die hard fan.

The two problems with Doctor Who is that they make stuff up to resolve problems and the stories are always full of glaring plot holes, so that you're constantly going "Huh?" or "Hang on a sec".

This makes it bloody hard to suspend disbelief. Moffat's other show (Sherlock) is no better.

hotsauceman1 wrote:Ok, Um Alot of Gripes and one big TY to the producers

Spoiler:

1: As people have said, The Statue, I'm not going to go into it. But there was quite a bit of time no one had their eyes on it
2: The baby Angels, How are they made?
3: Its said that they used it as a farm, Ok makes sense, But how did they get fed? It said they can't leave, and i think the angels would raise a few eybrows at the grocery store
4: JOY TO THE WORLD, AMY AND RORY ARE GONE!!!!!!!!
5EATH TO THE WORLD, River is in.
6: Rory dies more often then Daniel Jackson.

1. Yeah,thought that was over the top silly.
2. Well you see, when a mommy angel and a daddy angel get together...
6. And both shows comment on their resurrection habit in the show.

You people and your petty plot holes. That was a great episode. A bit funny, quite scary and very sad. A near perfect Doctor Who episode. I will miss the Ponds.

Well, When you realize a Blatant Plothole, Such as the Statue of liberty being an angel, it takes you out of the episode.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Well, When you realize a Blatant Plothole, Such as the Statue of liberty being an angel, it takes you out of the episode.

Yeah, a good DW ep doesn't overly break suspension of disbelief quite so badly. Even using the rules of the Whoniverse, this ep broke several rules re the Angels that already existed. As well as basic logic.

Moffet really went out of his way to put Amy and Rory on a bus, but the plot holes are big enough to lose a dalek fleet in.

 Darkvoidof40k wrote:

 Sharazad wrote:
I keep missing every new episode so far... Pfft. Maybe should track them down they sound so awesome!

You can see them all on the Doctor Who website.

That only works if you have a UK IP address. they block the other countries from viewing the episodes there.

Why can't any of these latest doctors do this?

sirlynchmob wrote:

That only works if you have a UK IP address. they block the other countries from viewing the episodes there.

After all, us foreign devils have no need for British Sci-fi.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Why can't any of these latest doctors do this?

Because a man dressed up like Frankenstein instantly gains +5000 strength points and you just don't do that these days.

Oh, and there's the force field that eats everything bridge to cross.

I don't suppose that all the moaners could actually stop and remember the show is aimed at kids? As the target audience is the under 14 year olds, I don't think blatant storyline pot holes really matter to them?!? Please try an remember this when picking holes with it.

It's designed for kids, but written in such a way that mum & dad feel able to sit and watch it at the same time, thus making it a family experience. It is not supposed to be X-files, Supernatural, Fringe, Grimm, etc.

The British newspaper TV critics seem to be aware of this as they have given it good reviews, with comments about it being borderline scary for adults as well.

Before the whiners go on about having the right to express their opinion, I would say this. Yes you have a right to express your opinion, but take a moment to stop and put things into perspective. An adult pickin holes in the Dr Who storyline is as pointless as scoffing at a kids art & craft show when they make a house out of an old cereal box.

I've made the same point myself, and I am a huge doctor who fan.

However I do feel the Angels episode was the weakest this series.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Why can't any of these latest doctors do this?

When Doctor Who was a badass (and budgets were tiny).


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 Kilkrazy wrote:
I've made the same point myself, and I am a huge doctor who fan.

However I do feel the Angels episode was the weakest this series.

Frazzled learned 3.7 minutes after then ending that if he brings up the topic of "hey why doesn't the Doctor just wack all the angels, by launching them on a slow trip to the sun" he will be shouted down and beaten ad and face by Genghis Connie in holy umbrage. Rodney will wimper and TBone will pee on me.

On the positive I'm glad the'y've moved on already. The foreshadowing was getting lame. The Doctor needs to grab the dalek chick, the Great White Hunter, and Nefertiri and start a five episode party. culminating in an episode involving the wiener dog legions.

Frazz, Angels, Aslong as they are quantum locked, they are inv invincible. They are stuck in that moment of time.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Frazz, Angels, Aslong as they are quantum locked, they are inv invincible. They are stuck in that moment of time.

Can you physically move them? Put mirrors around them. Put them in a box. Put said box in space at ~27 kph towards the sun or nearest star depending on preference.

You wouldn't get Daleks with this sort of can't do attitude...

 Wolfstan wrote:
I don't suppose that all the moaners could actually stop and remember the show is aimed at kids? As the target audience is the under 14 year olds, I don't think blatant storyline pot holes really matter to them?!? Please try an remember this when picking holes with it.

Saying 'Well it's for kids and poor writing doesn't matter there' in this day and age is a poor excuse. It's like saying 'It's just for American TV, it doesn't have to have good writing, just lot of cleavage and six packs'. To a degree, that's true, but only if you're producing abominations like Jersey Shore.

This is Doctor Who. One would hope that it's held to a marginally higher standard than Spongebob Squarepants or Ren and Stimpy.


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Frazz, Angels, Aslong as they are quantum locked, they are inv invincible. They are stuck in that moment of time.

I might point out that the Doctor has beaten them before by positioning them so that four of them were looking at each other.

I view Dr. Who as "pulp" sci-fi, it's supposed to be epic and exciting, funny and more than a little bit ridiculous. Time travel is not scientifically possible, so the whole damn show doesn't have a shred of plausibility to it to start with, never mind the complete and utter unrealism of basically everything else about the entire show. Suspension of disbelief is a perquisite for sci-fi such as this, if you're constantly hung up over whether or not some people would have definitely been looking at the statue of liberty at 3am on a pitch black night (remember, the angels are able to turn out *all* the lights), then you're never going to enjoy the show.

It's in the same category as Farscape or Stargate (SGU excluded).. it's not "hard" sci-fi like Trek (original series excluded), BSG, Babylon 5.

So, yeah, I forgive all plotholes that make the show cooler... statue of liberty coming to life might not be scientifically or plausibly accurate (although David Copperfield did make it disappear that one time, which makes you wonder. ).. but it is extremely cool, so I happily excuse it on account of rule of cool... the opening scene was made a whole lot creepier by its addition.

Don't say hard. thats actually a historically defined genre.
Soft-space opera.
Hard-real sciency based. Think the actual space issues in 2001 and 2010.