The Doctor Who Thread

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**hotsauceman1**

Darkvoidof40k wrote:
Hot damn. Guess they just took it off the channel I watched it on way back then. *curses*

Anyway, back to the Who..

Just a Quick Note, The man who played LT. Data in TNG is playing the villain this series/season.
Now not to derail the Thread, I would like the Doctor to go to 12th, i want someone like Chris back. He had a nice flavor.

**p_gray99**

Eh, TBH although Tennant and Eccleston (spelling?) were good, 4th doctor is still the best. Can't we have it go back to something like that?

**Lord-Loss**

Arkon wrote:
I'm watching Asylum of the Daleks at the moment. Did the writers swap with Cybermen ? I thought Cybermen converted people, by destroying their emotions, and that Daleks where a specie, who evolved into that. Now this episode saying they convert people goes against all that I can remember. Or am I missing something ?

They're crazy daleks, so I assume they just chopped her up and put her on a life support system inside a Dalek case.

**Kilkrazy**

Spoiler:

**NecronLord3**

Lord-Loss wrote:
Arkon wrote:
I'm watching Asylum of the Daleks at the moment. Did the writers swap with Cybermen ? I thought Cybermen converted people, by destroying their emotions, and that Daleks where a specie, who evolved into that. Now this episode saying they convert people goes against all that I can remember. Or am I missing something ?

They're crazy daleks, so I assume they just chopped her up and put her on a life support system inside a Dalek case.

No it was total assimilation, at the molecular level, and is just complete crap IMO. Daleks hate anything not Dalek, they would kill first before assimilating anything.

**hotsauceman1**

Ill admit i loved the quipp aabout them destroying the doctor
Dr. "This is appaling, that you find hatred and destruction beautiful"
Dalek "Maybe thats why we cant destroy you"

**NecronLord3**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Ill admit i loved the quipp aabout them destroying the doctor
Dr. "This is appaling, that you find hatred and destruction beautiful"
Dalek "Maybe thats why we cant destroy you"

That was probably the best part of the episode.

**Anung Un Rama**

NecronLord3 wrote:
hotsauceman1 wrote:
Ill admit i loved the quipp aabout them destroying the doctor
Dr. "This is appaling, that you find hatred and destruction beautiful"
Dalek "Maybe thats why we cant destroy you"
That was probably the best part of the episode.

My favourite part was "DOCTOR WHO?!"

**Darkvoidof40k**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Darkvoidof40k wrote:
Hot damn. Guess they just took it off the channel I watched it on way back then. *curses*

Anyway, back to the Who..

Just a Quick Note, The man who played LT. Data in TNG is playing the villain this series/season.
Now not to derail the Thread, I would like the Doctor to go to 12th, i want someone like Chris back. He had a nice flavor.

Brent Spiner as a villain? Oh ho ho, this should be brilliant.

If it isn't I will don my cloak and go hunting.

As for Daleks converting humans and such.. well, originally they weren't like that. But since quite old series even they had begun converting humans into Daleks, I believe. Act of desperation I think, akin to conscription perhaps. I suppose the bad habit simply developed.

Then you've got Davros' Daleks from Tennant's second last series who were pure, 100% excellent life-hating pepper cans with lasers, just as they should be.

Mind you it sucked hard that they were defeated so easily. That's the thing, Doctor Who needs to bring back its 3-4 parters, that would truly make some of the plots that turned out quite badly have a chance to really expand and become rather impressive and enjoyable.

**Revenent Reiko**

Agreed, the one episode stories were always filler, with the longer 2-3 parters giving more of an insight into the overall plot line, and then the finale bringin it all together.

This series so far is filler through and through...

**Darkvoidof40k**

Revenent Reiko wrote:
Agreed, the one episode stories were always filler, with the longer 2-3 parters giving more of an insight into the overall plot line, and then the finale bringin it all together.

This series so far is filler through and through...

The majority of each series now are just the icing in the middle of the cake. You have to wait several weeks later for the actual cake itself, by then it's stale and to top it off it's thrown in your face when you least expect it.

**hotsauceman1**

Darkvoidof40k wrote:

As for Daleks converting humans and such.. well, originally they weren't like that. But since quite old series even they had begun converting humans into Daleks, I believe. Act of desperation I think, akin to conscription perhaps. I suppose the bad habit simply developed.

Then you've got Davros' Daleks from Tennant's second last series who were pure, 100% excellent life-hating pepper cans with lasers, just as they should be.

Mind you it sucked hard that they were defeated so easily. That's the thing, Doctor Who needs to bring back its 3-4 parters, that would truly make some of the plots that turned out quite badly have a chance to really expand and become rather impressive and enjoyable.

I agrree, Poison Sky is mt favorite. Also the dalek that converted humans where considered "Wrong" and disposed of

**Revenent Reiko**

Darkvoidof40k wrote:
Revenent Reiko wrote:
Agreed, the one episode stories were always filler, with the longer 2-3 parters giving more of an insight into the overall plot line, and then the finale bringin it all together.

This series so far is filler through and through...

The majority of each series now are just the icing in the middle of the cake. You have to wait several weeks later for the actual cake itself, by then it's stale and to top it off it's thrown in your face when you least expect it.

Not only when you least expected, the throw is so rushed most of it goes over your head...

although, i want to know what cakes you are getting that have icing in the middle....the ones my mum makes have buttercream, but thats lovely, and should not be compared to this series of DW

**Darkvoidof40k**

Revenent Reiko wrote:
Darkvoidof40k wrote:
Revenent Reiko wrote:
Agreed, the one episode stories were always filler, with the longer 2-3 parters giving more of an insight into the overall plot line, and then the finale bringin it all together.

This series so far is filler through and through...

The majority of each series now are just the icing in the middle of the cake. You have to wait several weeks later for the actual cake itself, by then it's stale and to top it off it's thrown in your face when you least expect it.

Not only when you least expected, the throw is so rushed most of it goes over your head...

although, i want to know what cakes you are getting that have [i]icing[/i[ oin the middle....the ones my mum makes have buttercream, but thats lovely, and should not be compared to this series of DW

I'm the last person to ask about culinary practices and details. I'll just call the filling icing and be on my merry way.

**Kilkrazy**

Revenent Reiko wrote:
Agreed, the one episode stories were always filler, with the longer 2-3 parters giving more of an insight into the overall plot line, and then the finale bringin it all together.

This series so far is filler through and through...

One episode isn't always long enough to make the most of a story. I'm not against one episode stories as such. Some of them have been excellent, e.g. Blink.

The two parters have generally worked well.

In the old style series there were sometimes 3 to 4 episode long mini-series.

**Revenent Reiko**

Icing it is then...

**Rysaer**

Having only just watched the 'last' episode on the iPlayer, I thought overall it was pretty good but could have done with a bit more filling, and I called the ending a few minutes into the episode, which I understand may be easy in a show about time travel but I roughly predicted this when the early rumours of this series came out

On a more serious note, River Song looked great in this episode

**Anung Un Rama**

Rysaer wrote:
Having only just watched the 'last' episode on the iPlayer, I thought overall it was pretty good but could have done with a bit more filling, and I called the ending a few minutes into the episode, which I understand may be easy in a show about time travel but I roughly predicted this when the early rumours of this series came out

Me too. As soon as they explained the old Angel rule again it was pretty obvious how they were gonna write the Ponds out. Though I was expecting that the Doctor stays with them till the end.

**Frazzled**

Yea serious plothole. Why don't he just go back to 1939???

**hotsauceman1**

Because, Something having to do with timelines, Like how the Doctor Couldnt Take Donna Back to her Wedding.

**CthuluIsSpy**

Well, I just saw Asylum of the Daleks. I have to say that its the best episode I've seen since that one with Vincent Van Gogh. The twist at the end was great.

**Rysaer**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Well, I just saw Asylum of the Daleks. I have to say that its the best episode I've seen since that one with Vincent Van Gogh. The twist at the end was great.

Both great episodes, although the whole dalek/human conversion thing kind of bugged me but that twist. Wowsers.

Vincent Van Gogh Episode can still give me man tears.

**CthuluIsSpy**

Rysaer wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Well, I just saw Asylum of the Daleks. I have to say that its the best episode I've seen since that one with Vincent Van Gogh. The twist at the end was great.

Both great episodes, although the whole dalek/human conversion thing kind of bugged me but that twist. Wowsers.

Vincent Van Gogh Episode can still give me man tears.

Yeah, the nano bot conversion thing was weird. It was certainly sinister, but the fact that it results in a stem sticking out of the poor bloke's head was a bit...odd.

Ditto on the Van Gogh episode. Though I don't actually have man tears.

**Rysaer**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Ditto on the Van Gogh episode. Though I don't actually have man tears.

I literally have man tears, they come out in the shape of small tear sized men. Trufax.

Also I'm hoping we will see more of the newer villians/races as I feel the Dalek angle has been overworked slightly in the last little while, I love them as villians but I'd like to see more new villians or even the resurgence of some older ones.

**reds8n**

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/articles/What-Happened-to-Brian-and-the-Ponds

Rory’s dad, Brian Williams, only appeared in two episodes but swiftly established himself as a favourite amongst Doctor Who’s audience. After Amy and Rory’s heart-breaking departure in The Angels Take Manhattan we received many emails asking what happened next to Brian. Did he ever find out what took his son and daughter-in-law? If so, how? And would Brian – and viewers - ever learn more about Amy and Rory’s life after the Doctor?

A special scene was written by Chris Chibnall that revealed some of the answers but sadly, the sequence was never shot. However, we’re happy to announce that we’ll be bringing you the scene tomorrow. Using animated storyboards and a voice-over specially recorded by Arthur Darvill, we’ll discover more about Brian and the Ponds, post-Angels.

It begins with Brian alone, doing what he once told the Doctor must be done – watering the plants. But his life is about to change forever…

Doctor Who’s Executive Producer, Caro Skinner, said, ‘We’re delighted we can present this lovely scene written by Chris Chibnall. People took Rory’s dad, Brian, to their hearts very quickly, so it’s fitting we can give the character a degree of closure in this poignant piece.’

P.S. is a short video written by Chris Chibnall and will be essential viewing for anyone who wants to know more about what happened to Brian, Amy and Rory. It will be available to watch on this site tomorrow, Friday, 12th October.

**Vitruvian XVII**

Awesome! I loved that guy.

edit: Just watched it, that was sad.

**Anung Un Rama**

I thought they adopted little River. Where did those pictures in the orphanage came from?

**hotsauceman1**

Bringing up river, Who the hell took care of her while she was melody?

**CDK**

Dang It's not running for me! Must see it!

**NecronLord3**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Bringing up river, Who the hell took care of her while she was melody?

She was raised by that military race to be an assassin but she obviously regenerated one or more times and became the black friend of Rory and Amy. For all we know she lived 10 lifetimes before becoming River Song.