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 Tappers wrote:
Anyway, if John Hurt was the war doctor, does that make him the ninth doctor? And Eccleston the tenth, Tennant the eleventh and so on?

Post Day of the Doctor in the Doctor's personal timeline, yes. He regains the name of the Doctor after that event. Before that time, no.

So basically, Smith is 12 and Capaldi 13.

 pretre wrote:

 Tappers wrote:
Anyway, if John Hurt was the war doctor, does that make him the ninth doctor? And Eccleston the tenth, Tennant the eleventh and so on?

Post Day of the Doctor in the Doctor's personal timeline, yes. He regains the name of the Doctor after that event. Before that time, no.

So basically, Smith is 12 and Capaldi 13.

And by some wonky Doctor Who fluff, Time Lords don't regenerate after their 13th iteration, but there are of course exceptions to this rule.

 Alfndrate wrote:
And by some wonky Doctor Who fluff, Time Lords don't regenerate after their 13th iteration, but there are of course exceptions to this rule.

We also don't know if any of the following may have affected it:

- River giving him all her regens reset his or gave hium extras
- He finds Gallifrey and the High Council gives him another 12 regens (similar to the offer they made to the Master)
- It was never a biological law, but a Time Lord law and since there's no one around to enforce it...

Actually, they Retconned it. the 13 regeneration are just rules made by the council. They can do it indefinitly.
Now, I found it lacking, The Big bads where rubber suits, bad ones. No high stakes, No epicness TBH

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Actually, they Retconned it. the 13 regeneration are just rules made by the council. They can do it indefinitly.

Citation needed. They may be intending to do that but have never said so in universe.

The Day of the Doctor 50th special was fantastic! As for the Regenerations I seem to remember Moffit (or maybe Davis) commenting in an interview that it was Time Lord law as regenerations after the initial twelve started to have issues with personality degradation or some such.

Right, out of universe speculation until it hits the screen.

Death of the Doctor he says he can regenerate more times then 13

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Death of the Doctor he says he can regenerate more times then 13

The line was 507 times...
5+0+7 = 12

Also it was mentioned several times that the line was a throwaway...

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Death of the Doctor he says he can regenerate more times then 13

Yeah, he was pulling the guy's leg. He says he can regenerate 507 times to him. Davies is later quoted as saying that this was probably a joke.




I mean listen to the music in the background when he says it.

 pretre wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
And by some wonky Doctor Who fluff, Time Lords don't regenerate after their 13th iteration, but there are of course exceptions to this rule.

We also don't know if any of the following may have affected it:

- River giving him all her regens reset his or gave hium extras
- He finds Gallifrey and the High Council gives him another 12 regens (similar to the offer they made to the Master)
- It was never a biological law, but a Time Lord law and since there's no one around to enforce it...

Or somebody misheard him and it is actually thirty, not thirteen? Just a speculation.

From the original, it was quite obviously 13.

Still, dont think they are not going to make some BS up about it.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Still, dont think they are not going to make some BS up about it.

I already listed three perfectly non-BS reasons that they could use. They don't really need to make anything up.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Still, dont think they are not going to make some BS up about it.

The Doctor may be a Time Lord, but he's also a cash cow... so of course they're going to come up with some stupid BS about it.

 Tappers wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
I'm so glad that there are people that like Eccleston just as much as I do

It's okay. You're not alone anymore.

I don't understand why not many people love Eccleston. As well as the excellent scripts, Eccleston's Doctor was kinda like a sarcastic, normal bloke, and so made the series really scary. The episode with that gas mask child is the scariest Dr Who episode of all time.

Personally, while I don't mind Eccleston as The Doctor, the biggest draw back to his series, is Rose. She quite literally kills any desire I would have to like him/ his Doctor. Personally, I think that if he had been able to stick around a bit longer, and gotten Martha instead, he may have been more likeable for me.

I do think it somewhat sad also that with the writing he had, his companion was able to so thoroughly destroy my enjoyment of his portrayal, but YMMV.

Given the revelations about Gallifrey still being around, I'm pretty sure they're going for the granting of another cycle. There's a precedent in The Deadly Assassin, where the master is seeking another set, so they don't need to retcon anything, and it makes sense given the new plot arc.

Gives the Capaldi doctor a quest as well. Find Gallifrey so I can get more regens.

I just read something, Apparently regenerations can change gender......
We need a female Doctor

And what with the Silence plot arc apparently being wrapped up at Christmas, they're going to need a new overriding story. The Quest for Gallifrey+ Bonus Lives is making more and more sense.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I just read something, Apparently regenerations can change gender......
We need a female Doctor

That's been known for a while. One of the doctor's time lord buddies did it previously and it was confirmed again in the Night of the Doctor.

 Paradigm wrote:
And what with the Silence plot arc apparently being wrapped up at Christmas, they're going to need a new overriding story. The Quest for Gallifrey+ Bonus Lives is making more and more sense.

Doctor Who and the Quest for the Infinite Arcade Tokens

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Tappers wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
I'm so glad that there are people that like Eccleston just as much as I do

It's okay. You're not alone anymore.

I don't understand why not many people love Eccleston. As well as the excellent scripts, Eccleston's Doctor was kinda like a sarcastic, normal bloke, and so made the series really scary. The episode with that gas mask child is the scariest Dr Who episode of all time.

the biggest draw back to his series is Rose.

Somebody who dislikes Rose?! I think this is the first time I have encountered anyone with such an opinion. Why did she ruin it for you?

She is just not that fun of a character. She doesnt have the sense of Awe the other do.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
She is just not that fun of a character. She doesnt have the sense of Awe the other do.

Explain that better.

Companions are supposed to be Awe-inspiring or are supposed to be inspired with awe?

I must admit I am not the biggest fan of Rose. I found her character very annoying, the Bad Wolf thing got tired, and the romance with the Doctor really annoyed me. He spent 900 years pre-Rose avoiding relationships with humans, and all of a sudden he's head over heels with Rose? No, sorry, I don't buy that.

Rose also destroyed the character of Martha Jones, which was a shame.

 Paradigm wrote:
the Bad Wolf thing got tired

Explain. You mean the idea that there were clues up until the final story?

He spent 900 years pre-Rose avoiding relationships with humans, and all of a sudden he's head over heels with Rose? No, sorry, I don't buy that.

Knowing what we know now about the War doctor, perhaps Eccleston needed someone, needed true companionship or love in order to get over what he did.

Even the biggest loner needs love sometimes.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I just read something, Apparently regenerations can change gender......
We need a female Doctor

Just to quickly bring this back into light...

We need a ginger doctor before a female one, at least let the poor boy have his ginger hair for once

Ginger Female doctor? Or is that too Pond-ish.

 pretre wrote:
Ginger Female doctor? Or is that too Pond-ish.

I wouldn't kick that doctor out of the TARDIS if you catch my drift.