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Haha, should get them to graffiti up the final product... 40K Yoof style

BTW, I like it, looks nice and solid as well as playable. It reminds me of a castle wall section I once made for my WFB Empire army - long since gone now unfortunately (the wall that is, still have my army lurking in a box somewhere...)

lol...don´t we all live in small boxes

well... that is a nice idea... need to see the final work to decide wether i want it smeared with graffiti then^^

my son would love it, that´s for sure^^

Just give him a small section, an alcove or corner that's not on full display, nice and subtle like... Make him proud of his handiwork Dad

hmmm.... the more you talk the more i get into that idea...hmmm... you sure you are not into selling insurances?

i think i have a plan^^

hmm, maybe a change of career... as long as it doesn't involve meerkats or opera singers (this may be lost on anyone not in the UK... checkout Compare the Market and Go compare adverts to get the joke)


Sheesh, I'm having to explain jokes now... I'm turning into my Dad !!!

I'm turning into my Dad !!!

well...better shoot me before that might happen... and my wife made a deal with me likewise if she showed signs of her mother in her...

Oh the curse of the mother-law... Sends shivers down most married men's spines... (unless the MiL happens to be a cougar...)

LOL... with that one you will never get into the danger to get drawn in any moral wrong thinking way.... for sure...! (omg... i have to rinse my mind now with sandpaper...)

Looking good vik!

NOW...was the demand for an update... ok...granted it is a rather late now...

but here it is...

i worked on the railings...

i worked on the turret idea...

i worked on the stairs to include an idea for a subteran entrance...

here are the pics...:











the work on the turrets proved to be a bit difficult...

as i wanted to have this fortress with butresses... i know stand before the problem where to put them... the walls as such are too crowded then with doors, butresses AND turrets mounted on the walls too... i could build small towers... like you get in penitentiaries...

also i cant really decide about the weapon systems... atm i am using q-tips as barrels for a what-not weapon system...

here are my tries...:





i think they look too weedy for 40k... your thoughts???

and here is the placement problem...just imagine a full tower where these turrets would be attached to...










cheers, vik...


and your input is definatly needed!!!

Very cool indeed. Although I envisaged those as sliding rather than opening on hinges. I like the way the gun emplacements echo aegis lines but the armament needs to be... Boxier, I think. I love the interior stair as well, I was worried the treads were a bit large but they've grown on me. Great job.

The triple barrels on the left look good. 'Meh' to the others.

The weapon shields look very nice but I don't think they work well overall since the fortress looks awkward with them on the corners.

Thumbs up for the subterranean entry point!!

i too think the guns need to look more heavy ... i need to see to it...

and my wife was also liking the tripple version the best...

and graven... yeah... now that you say it... those doors should be sliding ones......hmmm... but i wanted to have doors that could be opened...

at JB any ideas where to use them then instead? should i get rid of the butresses then?

I don't know. The gun ports look out of place on top of the wall. Even from a functional point of view, they don't make sense. Think arrow slits on parapet walls - unless you're planning on doing a whole series of them. I think they want to be stuck on the sides of your fortress (like the GW bastion). What if you blocked out the space between the buttresses and put a couple there? It would make the shape of the building a bit more dynamic and give it a little more functionality (firing arcs and the like). Couldn't you just plop a Predator turret on the corners? Maybe build them up 2" (1.5-2x the height of a SM) so there's a sense of a space for a guy to fit in there? Also, I think you're right about the straws. I would group them into mini-guns at least.

Regardless,I really like the arches and I love the double/double doors.

Perhaps you could shorten the buttresses to half their height and position a turret/port centered above each buttress.

You wouldn't want the turrets/ports too low anyway since defenders want to discourage sneaky attackers from dropping explosives into the ports and weapon tubes.

Which doors is Graven recommending as sliding doors?

...and where is the League of Extraordinary Riveters to ride in and save the converting day?

well i at least can follow you with the bastion setup...

the current gun ports on top of the walkways is just a very dirty mockup.... it is meant to be a stand in for a full tower...where i then stuck on the gunports...


a bit like this one then...:



only more modern looking of course^^


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 JB wrote:
Perhaps you could shorten the buttresses to half their height and position a turret/port centered above each buttress.

You wouldn't want the turrets/ports too low anyway since defenders want to discourage sneaky attackers from dropping explosives into the ports and weapon tubes.

Which doors is Graven recommending as sliding doors?

...and where is the League of Extraordinary Riveters to ride in and save the converting day?

i think he refers to the main doors... the teethed structure... the interlocking of both wings... that look usually you get for sliding doors...

and the butress idea i think could work quite well too... in fact i have toyed around with that idea too... tho i was hesitant to cut up the already done work again...

and yep... the league... seems to be all sleeping....?

I like the three barrel turrets well, but how about a larger bore gun.

Perhaps some ground level emplacements. At least on the three sides without the door. It could be accessible from underground and then you don't have to do any cutting.

Vik you talk about patience and you're cutting these tiny little pieces all slick and even! Shoot, I don't have near enough patience for that Your project looks just fantastic!

Looks great Vik! The basement under the stairs is a great touch! I think you could make some Vickers barrels hanging out of those porthtoles though

Theophony wrote:I like the three barrel turrets well, but how about a larger bore gun.

Perhaps some ground level emplacements. At least on the three sides without the door. It could be accessible from underground and then you don't have to do any cutting.

and again my vocabulary got bigger... had to look up bore... can´t understand that i didn´t knew about that word!... you are right... i have to use something else... the barrels have been nagging on my nerves for the better part of yesterday and today...
i´ve played (cut down to size) with one butress today... the following pic (look below...) i want to hear your thoughts about!

bebopdrums2424 wrote:Vik you talk about patience and you're cutting these tiny little pieces all slick and even! Shoot, I don't have near enough patience for that Your project looks just fantastic!

HAHAHA!... well... so i gather you never heard of the fulfilling calming/ soothing methode of riveting? reaching a calm valley amidst this pushy and shouty world? rivet zen...after you placed around a hundred rivets in one session you will know it

dsteingass wrote:Looks great Vik! The basement under the stairs is a great touch! I think you could make some Vickers barrels hanging out of those porthtoles though

vickers... yeah... that sounds like the way to go...!and thanks for the praise for the underground entrance... i felt it was needed... tho atm i get a strong star ship troopers fortress feeling from the build...i wanted to suggest that the fortress is more than meets the eye at first glance...


oh

yeah... there was that thing with the butress and the gunport...

looke here :




thoughts`, cheers, vik

I'm not too sure about it, but I also can't think of any suggestions for it at the same time.

I like it!..Just needs Vickers

n0t_u wrote:I'm not too sure about it, but I also can't think of any suggestions for it at the same time.

LOL... i feel that way often too

dsteingass wrote:I like it!..Just needs Vickers

thanks mate... do you share the view, this looks rather prison like?...

I like what i'm seeing so far, nice work. I can just imagine an Imperial Guard detachment held up inside, while their besieged on all sides by an unrelenting Tyranid swarm.

This could lend itself well to a modular building type approach, as you can build more structures of varying types and construct yourself a customized complex with each building interconnected via underground tunnels.

Are you going to be using any kind of textured paint, for that heavy industrial concrete look?

I like it but the weapons station and buttress seem crooked.

I second Dave's comment about the weapon. It wii need to become more impressive.

Tbh too small for 40k, I'd make them at least twice the size...

I'd say more "compound-like"

dsteingass wrote:I'd say more "compound-like"

hehe ... like a bootcamp, eh?

HAZZER wrote:Tbh too small for 40k, I'd make them at least twice the size...

well... my young padawan... only in 40k size is that much needed...... in the real world it is what you do with it...ach... who am i fooling here

JB wrote:I like it but the weapons station and buttress seem crooked.

I second Dave's comment about the weapon. It wii need to become more impressive.

yers....... the buttresses are indeed a bit crooked...all will be soleved once the fortress and all its parts are glued into place... sand PVA basing will eaqual out all crooknesses

and i am atm working on more impressive weaponry!

hk1x1 wrote:I like what i'm seeing so far, nice work. I can just imagine an Imperial Guard detachment held up inside, while their besieged on all sides by an unrelenting Tyranid swarm.

This could lend itself well to a modular building type approach, as you can build more structures of varying types and construct yourself a customized complex with each building interconnected via underground tunnels.

Are you going to be using any kind of textured paint, for that heavy industrial concrete look?

brilliant idea... this could be a really cool setting for a hide and seek scenario 40k style... start in one fortress and then get attacked.... once overrun by oposing forces you run for the next base...

as for the textured paint... i do own something like that... tho atm i am still trying to figure out what the material of the build should look like.... concrete or steel?... for concrete i have researched some good looking methodes already...

Vik, it's looking good, but you'll need to put something next to the buttresses otherwise attackers could get under the turret and have a somewhat safe spot.

Maybe some toothpicks used as spikes, or little boxes to look like claymore. Or the smoke launchers from marine vehicles to use as defensive grenade launchers. Nothing says keep back lick grenades.

And your English is better than my German that I learned 20+ years ago and never got the chance to use .

its look good. Ork language see. Well i suggest a watch tower, in the middle or just on one corner. Also battlements. Turret defenses ok, but we need cannons. Motor pool attachment please, include hanger. Good work. Grot.