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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 16:10:29
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@ Galorn- old color, just recently axed by GW w/ the new range.
@ Dave- have you found a comparable color? I took a swatch to Home Depot a few years ago and still have most of the quart I had them mix for me, color was a really close match. I kist need something I can spray, brushing large areas is becoming less and less ideal for my desired results as I learn to model and paint better.
Small update, but it's better than complete inactivity. Here are the pics of what I've been doing w/ those Armorcast walls Dave sent me. I tried two different methods, both with the same rattlecans. First up are the smaller walls that I based blue and misted w/ rust:
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Second set (Larger walls) was based rust and misted blue:
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I'm undecided which I like better. Opinions? Keep in mind, this is JUST spray, no other detail has been added. C&C welcomed and requested.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 16:59:18
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Sweet-looking!
Yeah, Vallejo makes a shadow grey, and I think GW has a new base and layer paint that matches it. I always basecoat with a primary blue first, then mist and blend in the intermediate blue over top of it, with a few greys for highlight.
However, nowadays rattle cans scare me more than the airbrush does. It used to be the other way around. Too much potential for heat and humidity to ruin a rattlecan job. Your latex paint can be sprayed through an airbrush too, you can get some really cool effects with latex by wiping it for streaks or by spraying rubbing alcohol over the paint to mottle and mist it. Latex just takes a lot longer to dry, so it's workable a lot longer than acrylic. Automatically Appended Next Post: Just for fun, try adding some of the blue weathering powder to water, make a wash, and try it out!
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 17:55:40
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Fighter Ace
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Rust first Blue second Skalk... Looks waaaaay better in my opinion. Nice walls too
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Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 18:00:57
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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See, I prefer adding the rust afterwards myself, painting highlights around the chips for a forced depth effect, but that's just preference.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 18:10:07
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I agree with MauS, the rust first solution seems perfect and looks really close to the original necromunda blue passageways
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 18:23:29
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Fixture of Dakka
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As a technique I'd generally agree with Dave, but as a quick and easy spray (which is what I'm guessing you're looking for) the rust-blue mist method looks the better of your tests.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 18:40:27
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I love the front of the second set. The blue walls always jarred slightly to me but that really, really works.
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Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 19:38:45
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@ Dave- The end result of either technique will have add'l rust built up via sponging and washes. I really want to practice the technique Ash uses for his 'chipped paint' effect on these walls.
@ Maus / Joe / monkeytroll / graven- I have to admit I liked this one better as well. I am looking for 'quick and easy' for sure, but without sacrificing a noticeable degree of quality. There's *much* to be done still, but overall I feel I have a reasonable grasp of the basic technique.
Thanks to all who commented so far. I really appreciate the feedback. Now that I've improved my overall skills and I have found the theme for my entire tabletop (heavily damaged / abandoned Imperial outpost) I have a lot of re-work to perform on previously 'finished' pieces, and I have a lot of ideas for what it coming next.
Just throwing this out there in hopes of a few responses- have been exposed to salting, sponge weathering, and washes. Does anyone else have a technique they have used w/ success that they would like to share? If you have a thread w/ your work, feel free to link it here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 19:50:57
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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You've come a long way buddy! Good work and remember sometimes the simplest techniques are still the best techniques. I like to think that with terrain a lot of times less is more. Good on you for trying different approaches and keep up the great job!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/19 15:34:39
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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madmartykmf- Thank you for the compliment. I'll keep pushing my limits and changing up my techniques. Today's update is about exactly that.
Not much of an update, but I'm sharing what I can when I can these days. First up is a collection of things I've had for a while mixed with things I just recently acquired.
These are the two larger walls Dave sent me as part of my LoER Terrain Contest package. I apologize for the poor pics, I was in a hurry this morning.
Side 1 (first pic) I'm going to put some time into this because I really like it. Same of the 2nd section of wall. I've been picking out small details, like how the electrical conduit would still be gray, how different electrical lines would be color coded, etc.
Side 2 (2nd pic) This is my external facing side, and it's taken a lot of damage. The fresh metal (non-rusted) is due to impact craters from Heavy Weapon fire, and the top is almost like it was hit w/ a Melta of some sort. I'll be picking out more detail on this as well.
Here's a shot of everything (minus base it will be on)
The big walls are old Epicast stuff that Dave sent, the small 'walls' are from some GW thing that was around before I got back into gaming. They are resin and somehow I wound up w/ a lot of them. Both have been cut to fit the flat edge of the building.
The floors are bitz from the Pegasus Hobbies Platformer servies, bought handfuls of them from Hoards 'O Bitz on eBay.
It's a really simple and very effective build, will be quick to assemble once painted, and will be a valued addition to my game table. I'll share more pics as I make progress.
One more things to share, special for Vik- I didn't have a real chance to enter into your contest, but I wanted you to know that the inspiration was not lost and eventually I will have a finished piece from my prior efforts and your idea was directly responsible for that:
Eventually it'll have rivets and bitz etc. My ultimate goal is to send it to Galorn for a non-IP cast of a futuristic power generator. A lot of work between now and then, but I wanted to share at least this much.
That's all for now. I'll keep going as best I can.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/19 15:51:20
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That is gonna be cool Skalk!
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/19 19:47:43
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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gotta agree... that will be a nice addition once finished to galorns shop!
and the walls look very neat... all clean and so on^^... now dirty´em up boy!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/19 23:10:33
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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no.. fraking way.. where are those walls from? I was helping dig through someones bits box the other day at my local GW and not one of us could figure out what these walls where.. and those are the walls!!
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"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/20 03:22:38
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Armorcast, GO BUY THEM! They are oop and worth gold.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/20 03:49:32
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
California + Philidelphia
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Wtf he didnt want them... he's the guy I'm getting the oop squats from.. I need those walls too! I'll try my hardest to!
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"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 14:00:37
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I still have some left if you strike out...
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 18:45:13
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@ Dave- Yup, it really is going to be cool. I've been working on a different project though, and it's coming right along as well. Pics and details below. Also, once again... thank you so very much for sending those Epicast walls! I hope I'm doing them justice. I can guarantee they have found a happy and very appreciative home with a game table they will see quite often.
@ Vik- I'm going to give them some special attention because I want ot to be a salable item people woud have interest in, plus it's pride / bragging rights to know something I made is being produced and sold to others.
@ Rogue- Hi
Somewhat decent update this time. I decided to take my paint box back to work but instead of working on my Cultists I focused on the project I gave a sneak peak at in the last post. Here's pics of where I am so far. Apologies for the bad photos, I had to take them on my phone as I left my camera at home.
Details aren't done, but you can see I'm putting a little effort into this one. I've been even more critical of my work since building the 'lids' platform and I'm hoping my attention to detail will help sell the idea of what I'm trying to do a lot better.
The colors I added were unnecessary, I could have sprayed the entire thing rust and left it at that. Booooorrrriing. So I've picked out some conduit, pipes, freshly exposed metal, button / levers, etc. More is coming, but note that it's all complimentary and subdued. No screaming bright "HHHEEYYY!! LOOK AT ME!!!!" parts at all.
I considered putting some Shadow Grey on it, but have decided to not. I will put that into the mix on another piece. This is an experiment in 'mostly rusty'.
I would try the weathering powders Dave gave me, but this piece is already detailed enough (look at all the rivets!) so I'm saving that for a more bland / plasticard piece.
I'll post more once I have somehting to share. With any luck I'll have time enough to finish this up soon but this weekend is straight out so don't expect anything before... Tuesday?
Thanks for looking, C&C always welcomed, and I'll be back!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 19:26:38
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Fixture of Dakka
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Looks good, like that you picked out the details, it is too easy sometimes to not bother with stuff like that.
Don't discount the powders just cause it's a detailed piece, a light touch with the rusts will just add further texture, which is no bad thing for rust.
Or try making a wash with them and applying it around a few of the rivets. Some gentle brushing once it's dried should look nice, wih the odd little dribble.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 20:11:01
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Just try some streaking of rusty stains with the powder/water wash and then tell me you're still scared of the powders! Automatically Appended Next Post: Soon, you'll have each rivet leaving a stain! Automatically Appended Next Post: If you first gloss-coat it efore applying the wash, it will pool around the rivets with no effort from you.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2012/09/21 20:12:53
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 20:25:03
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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i know there is no chance it will stay that warm reddish color... but i like it atm as is... has for me a bit of a steampunk vibe... even tho it is riveted steal it reminds me from the general look of clinker...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 20:28:27
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Vik, did you have Hogan's Heroes on TV?
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 20:40:24
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Klinc : HOOOOOGGGAAAAANNNNNN!
Sgt. Schultze: Oh boy.... I Know Nothing. Noooothing!
Hogan: Yes Boss?
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Link to my Index Thread here on dakka
Find me on Twitter Sam Butler @Rivet_Zone
Winner "Best 40k Table" Daboyz GT 2010,2011
"Sic Vis Pachem Parabellum" - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 21:26:49
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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at dave... of course
and galorn... wasn´t it serg. schultz? i am a bit touchy about this name as it is my true RL last name
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 22:45:42
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
California + Philidelphia
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hey skalk... skalk...
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those walls are like.. cool and stuff...
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"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 05:19:07
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Viktor von Domm wrote:at dave... of course
and galorn... wasn´t it serg. schultz? i am a bit touchy about this name as it is my true RL last name
I believe it was Sgt as Americans were making the show... I could be wrong. but im pretty sure it was sgt.
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Link to my Index Thread here on dakka
Find me on Twitter Sam Butler @Rivet_Zone
Winner "Best 40k Table" Daboyz GT 2010,2011
"Sic Vis Pachem Parabellum" - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Veni, Vidi discessi.-Galorn. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 06:39:06
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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The Hammer of Witches
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Hooray for skalk! So much terrain its coming out of his ears
Trying to catch up with peoples plogs but I always seem to arrive late.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 15:49:53
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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New pieces are looking really good, bud. The subdued colors used on the wall accents really works. Just keep in mind that your heresy grows bigger each time you tote that Hello Kitty lunch pale.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/22 18:08:13
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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Galorn wrote: Viktor von Domm wrote:at dave... of course
and galorn... wasn´t it serg. schultz? i am a bit touchy about this name as it is my true RL last name
I believe it was Sgt as Americans were making the show... I could be wrong. but im pretty sure it was sgt.
i was more referring to the schultze vs schultz... the namefamily is quite big and with lots of variety...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 03:57:38
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Viktor von Domm wrote: Galorn wrote: Viktor von Domm wrote:at dave... of course
and galorn... wasn´t it serg. schultz? i am a bit touchy about this name as it is my true RL last name
I believe it was Sgt as Americans were making the show... I could be wrong. but im pretty sure it was sgt.
i was more referring to the schultze vs schultz... the namefamily is quite big and with lots of variety... 
well according to the great Wikipedia... S ergent Shultz (no e)
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Link to my Index Thread here on dakka
Find me on Twitter Sam Butler @Rivet_Zone
Winner "Best 40k Table" Daboyz GT 2010,2011
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 09:10:17
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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ah... see i had that thought too^^
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