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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/01 23:31:05
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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that can happen to the best of us... us horders are allowed to loose overview of our stuff from time to time
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/01 23:52:59
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Fixture of Dakka
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Hah! I love it when I suddenly find/remember some bit if kit really relevant to whatever the feth it is I'm doing at the time, that's been sitting in a box for years, patiently waiting for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 18:05:45
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@ both- thanks for the support. It's a bit maddening to have this happen, I'm sure you both get that. I'm in a massive terrain project to make my table look better, and I have an insane amount of really cool stuff just sitting in a drawer. Gah.
No update today, will share new work as soon as I can.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 18:13:04
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Fixture of Dakka
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But if you'd just dived straight into the drawer you may not have had the cool ideas you've had. Swings and roundabouts my friend, swings and roundabouts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 18:25:22
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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monkeytroll wrote:But if you'd just dived straight into the drawer you may not have had the cool ideas you've had. Swings and roundabouts my friend, swings and roundabouts 
QFT, and taken to heart. You are absolutely right. If I had worked on those bitz earlier (even 6 months ago) they would have been sprayed black and drybrushed gray. Whee.
I'll do them much more justice as soon as I get cracking on that. Have 3 more Imperial Sector buildings to detail / floor / base, then it's time to rip into the PH Gothic buildings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 18:42:52
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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Cool stuff. My mouth went dry when I saw the cubbys full of bitz.... its a nice collection lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 19:10:44
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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cool stuff just sitting in a drawer
see? there is the flaw... litter everything on the floor...everything is accessable every time... also great filing system for getting new inspiration
ask my wife... that´s mostly how my mancave looks like
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 19:29:21
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Fixture of Dakka
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Now, although I agree with my learned friend from Germany there, I have to point out that there is a caveat.
When it gets to the stage where you have a hole in the sprue pile to put your feet when you're in the chair, and swivelling the chair is slightly hazardous to the mountains of bit-boxes and sprues surrounding you, it MAY be time to do a bit of sorting.
Although where I'm going to sort it to I have no fething idea.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 19:32:55
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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i like your modus operandi... saves bitz and still perseves the insporation
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 19:55:18
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Fixture of Dakka
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Wow Skalk your buildings are coming along wonderfully.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:00:09
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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ha, you were buying those Platformer floor plates from ebay and you had a big box of them? I've done that too many damn times myself!
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:16:30
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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whatever strengthenes the economy i guess^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:36:49
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@ DemetriDominov- Thank a lot! Those bitz bins are the result of collecting and keeping bits since 2nd Ed. And yes, the are sorted so I know what is where.
@ Vik x2- It's 'my' room but it's available to anyone to use (for M: TG games, board games, homework, etc) so I really do have to keep it picked up, plus the chaos of disarray makes me a bit nutty. As for strengthing the economy, I dount my $30ish dollars is going to be the tipping point for anyone (until I need gas, then it's MY tipping point).
@ monkeytroll- I laughed out loud (at work) when I read about you having to carve out a place for your feet. That's what I had before the massibe haul-out of 2012. I'm amazed I've kept it up for 7 months now. Wow.
@ GiraffeX- Thank you a lot.  I have a lot of respect for your modeling / painting skill and vision. Compliments like that are a sure sign I'm doing something right.
@ Dave- I didn't buy any PH Gothic panels, I bought HOB treadplate (which I am out of 100% right now). The furstration is I have that huge collection of stuff that hasn't seen one bit of attention. But like monekytroll pointed out, perhaps that's for the best. Now I can use the things I have learned and practiced instead of the old SOP of black spray / Boltgun Metal or some sort of grey drybrush. I've evolved way past that and I'd hate to go back to re-do work.
Thanks one and all for the feedback. As a reward, I found this on eBay. I hope someone here gets it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Necromunda-terrain-walls-building-blocks-/261106447960?pt=Games_US&hash=item3ccb283658
Really hoping to get some work done tonight. Sooooo close to being finished, but it's all the fiddly detail and such right now. Man I need like a week off to stay home and model. Just raise my fist against the entire world in defiance and loudly declare that I'm going to lock myself in my hobby room and not leave for a week. I'll be sure to stock up on beer and munchies before closing the vault door.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:49:04
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Open that platformer box..there are more of those treadplates in there!
I am still waiting on my 4 sets of Russian Robogear building sprues from Russia ebay.
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btw Skalk..not a crit per se, but think of it as a "challenge"
This ppe would be made out of different metal than the walls, so it would rust and corrode differently, and have a different color!
If you are going for realism, your balls should be out and leading the charge!
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2012/10/02 20:55:13
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:57:19
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@ Dave- caught me again! Challenge accepted, and I'll post new pics when I have it done. I might even have a surprise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 21:25:01
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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My mate metropolis built a gladiator pit out of one of those builder sets. Worked a treat. Great find mr skalk!
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Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
Solar_Lion: "Man this sums up your blog nicely."
Anpu-adom: "being Geek is about Love. Some love broadly. Some love deeply. And then there are people like Graven. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 21:26:37
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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actually my mancave is in the middle of our living room... i still clutter around with my stuff but in essence i too have to keep it passable...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 21:33:43
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@ graven- I was so psyched to see those bits online. I had no idea, I just stumbled on them by happenstance.
@ Vik- Viktor von Domm wrote:actually my mancave is in the middle of our living room... i still clutter around with my stuff but in essence i too have to keep it passable... 
... your wife hasn't smothered you with a pillow yet for destroying her living room? Wow. She sounds like a keeper.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 21:40:07
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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lol... well she screams occaisionally at me to clean up...which is mostly handy as i need to do that to keep productive anyway  ...
and she is indeed a keeper... after all she keeps dragging stuff at home for me to build with too^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/03 18:22:39
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
Cupertino, California USA
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Hey Skalk let's see a wide shot of your table soon! I would love to see what it looks like put together. BTW how's my Huron doing? I got another one to build with my Dark Vengeance guys. Call it Huron 2.0
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/03 18:58:34
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@ Vik- I have to admit I laughed at the idea of an angry woman screaming at you in Deutche.
@ GD1- That's my goal in the near future, a full table shot. Trying to entice Galorn and Briancj back to VT. Ha. Huron has a special place on my display shelf. He's only seen action once but it was such a crushing victory I almost felt bad. Even funnier is that Huron never actually saw combat, he was too far back. I only lost total 1/2 a squad in that game. Good luck on Huron 2.0m I hope it's as awesome as Huron 1.
Short update, and an idea of where I'm going next.
First is my current project. I've been doing more detail work.
I know there are bits I didn't 'finish' like some of the trim work I painted gold on the face but not the edges. I'll get to this via painting in the edges, or see if the wash I'm going to use will 'fill in' and shade so it doesn't matter.
I also realized what was 'wrong' with the walkway panels- not enough contrast. So I did this:
Sprayed black and painted w/ Tamiya Gunmetal. I really like how this came out and once I get the rust / wash done it'll look pretty awesome I think.
While waiting for that to dry, I decided to lay out my next phase of the Imperial Sector project. I'll be trying a couple new things with this one.
Here's the rest of my IS buildings. I've decided to not repaint them. I've already put a lot of detail into them and at most I'll do some touchup work.
I'll make an exception is this one and repaint. Colors are ugly and detail is lame. BTW, I didn't paint this one, it's still same / same from when I bought it on eBay.
That's it for now. Will post new progress as it happens.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/03 20:57:43
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Looks tremendous and that boom just made my day!
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Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
Solar_Lion: "Man this sums up your blog nicely."
Anpu-adom: "being Geek is about Love. Some love broadly. Some love deeply. And then there are people like Graven. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/03 21:35:12
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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exactly... that bom reminded me strongly of the incredible hulk... "hulk smash!"
and all those differently colored ruins... looks like a candy shop... in a very cool way
and skalk... it is only funny if you are lsitening to that from afar...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 04:05:08
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Using Inks and Washes
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Hey skalk!
Sorry I haven't had much time to post lately (on my iPhone in the mess room during a lull right now) - I have been neglecting your fantastic updates.
Thanks a bunch for posting that evolution of your ideas - its really really interesting to see how your mind works and how your terrain bits take shape. Your CoD stuff is some of the best I've seen - I really envy your patience putting that much detail into those sets. You're going the extra mile when it comes to realism too - they're looking like buildings that might have once had a purpose, rather than generic battlescape, and the way they've been damaged sEems logical and fitting. Hard to do with those kits!
This blog is really inspirational, and I'm always looking and absorbing ideas, even if I'm not getting to compliment you as much as I'd like!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 06:35:54
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Looking good chief. I'll definitely be up for another run up to play... I'll have to look at my schedule for the coming months to do so tho.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 12:12:05
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That painting REALLY makes those panels look awesome man, the effort is soo much worth it with those GW panels. I love the blue and brassy color.
Scarp, I LOVE the new DCM title, you should change your avatar to Griffon!
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 13:36:08
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@ Vik- and skalk... it is only funny if you are listening to that from afar...
That made me laugh at work. Ha! And yes, I imagine it is.  Also, thanks for the compliment on the ruins I'm working on now. Always nervous about adventures away from the known, especially when it comes to colors.
@ Scarp- Never any worries about posting. This thread isn't going anywhere.  Thank you for the descriptive post and the high compliments! The fact you typed all that on an iPhone is impressive. I really appreciate your feedback, it's the sort of thing that helps me check my course and make sure I'm on the right track. My time for modeling these days has diminished but I'm still making an effort to put in an hour or so every couple days. I'm really glad you saw the way I've been 'directing' the damage. I looked at a lot of IRL photos and in all of those ruins there's hardly a level place to stand. With consideration to game mechanics and physical realities of miniatures (the fall over a lot on flat surfaces) I went for a look that would be an ascetically pleasing model while maintaining 100% tabletop functionality. Sounds like I'm reaching that goal. Thanks for your time man, always appreciate it.
@ Galorn- Probably November at this point. I've got a lot of stuff to get done very soon (all those super fun 'pre-winter' things like haul / cut / stack firewood, fix the broken window I promised to fix all summer.... that sort of stuff). First weekend I know I'm (mostly) available is Nov 3-4, I'm on call for my job so I know I'll be home all weekend by default. We can all PM about it, but wanted to give you a heads up here. We'll figure it out.
@ Dave- Remember when I posted this:
And you said this:
dsteingass wrote:Nice job with those steps man!
CoD panels aren't usually seen painted up to that level of detail, it's good to see.
I remembered that when I started this new project and put some attention into the detailing. I still credit you as being my final motivation to finally start this thread. You're more of an inspiration than you likely know. I have a lot of respect for your work and knowing I have the attention of those I respect does motivate me to work harder.
Another small update tonight. Did some more fiddly detail work on the piece I'm working on. Nothing so great that I feel it needs to be shared individually, but I couldn't remember if I took a shot of the door since I started painting it so here that is. if you've seen it before... well, here it is again:
I think the build came out very well. The paint will look better before it is done.
I also got some work on Building #2. The layout and design is directly influenced by madmarty. I really like the long narrow ruin look and now that they are getting actual bases that's how the will go on the table. With all the walls separate / no base it's easier to just make a jumble. This will add order to the chaos.
You'll also notice a change up. The *BOOM* crater had to be moved back a couple inches, and I found the piece that finished the footprint of the building. I'm looking forward to working on this one.
Hmm. After seeing that last pic something occurred to me. The circle / crater thing on the hardboard (dissected by the outline for the base I'll be cutting out soon) was a crater in a different design. Seeing it there now... hmmm.... HMMMM...
I have some more thinking to do. And that's why I like WIP projects so much. The possibilities are limited only by my time, resources, skill, and imagination.
That's it for now. More coming!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 13:42:14
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Thanks Skalk!
Just remember forensically where the dirt and rubble would've landed after that crater was made, and you'll have an awesome look there!
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 19:36:31
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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hey skalk... while the walls looks very good...weathering and peeled paint and all... but now the door leaf looks ale in comparrision... is there something you could do about it?
by the way... i really like that chaosy marine standing next to the door!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 21:44:23
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@ Dave- Oh yeah, all over that. Looking at actual photos of wartime damage to civilian construction. I have some good ideas how to pull it off.
@ Vil- Not sure what you're pointing out. If it's the paintjob on the front door, it's not finished but the door is constructed from forged steel and the eagles are solid gold. The door will have a couple rust spots, but it will endure the elements and the passage of time much more readily than the rest of the building.
SUPPLY DROP!!!
Whooooo! Yeah! Man I am WICKED psyched! Wish it were Friday, but I'll do what I can when I get home.
Also, wanted to share a bit of an update on an idea. Check this out.
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