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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/22 13:04:53
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@ dsteingass- Salt is easily overdone and ill-applied by even skilled modelers. I follow a thread from a specific modeler on Dakka who is *very* skilled, has won some GW sponsored events and been featured in WD Armies on Parade. He uses the salt method to show weathering on armor, battle damage, etc. Recently he's run into a challenge with some Space Marines. No matter what he does with the salt the results come out horrible. Some models need a different approach.
As for rust from the outside, do you mean literal IRL rust or modeling rust? If IRL, bare metal or painted metal?
ALSO: Teaser shots from my newest project. I expect this is going to be par with my Fuel Depot when finished, and should qualify as my annual LoER membership renewal project  :
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/22 13:12:37
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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If you look around industrial sites and equipment in rainy areas like mine, you'll often see rust growing in clumps as it blisters through cracks in paint. It will often look like a boil on the surface. So sometimes, yes it does really grow on the outside of painted metals  It's usually due to not properly sandblasting before painting of parts.
It's an anomaly, but it does happen.
If it wasn't raining NOW I'd take a picture of my Jeep bumper, which has the same thing happening to it.
edit: you are a lifetime member of the LOeR- you don't need a renewal project
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/22 13:19:29
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The 'boil-over' still comes from beneath somewhere. The only example of 'not from beneath' I can imagine is bare metal.
BTW, the image will not load even with a direct URL, I tried.
And yes I know I do not have to 'renew' my membership. I say it as a joke now and then when it has been a long time since I riveted anything at all, let alone extraordinarily. If you want me to stop so I don't confuse anyone I will.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/22 13:23:31
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yes, true, it still originates from the oxidation on the metal's surface, but appearance-wise, it can appear over the paint.
here..I upped it to my PB
I know you were joking, but you really don't need to manufacture new stresses for yourself my brother!
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/22 14:29:48
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ohhhhhhhhhh yeah, like that. Ok, I get it. Kinda like this?
... I'm going to go get a coffee.
Also, day off from work! Whoo! I'm heading to do some modeling after I finish up a few things here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/22 23:46:42
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Thanks for the rust painting tips Skalk, now I have some experimenting to do  .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/23 18:17:27
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Looking forward to the new build, Skalk.
Also worth thinking about for rust (good tips  ) is the colouration. Take some time to look for pictures of the kind of rust you want (e.g. old Vs. new rust), and look really really close at the colours involved, you may be surprised to find it's not all brown and orange...
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/23 18:49:52
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Is there a tutorial on how to do the rust effect you showed here?
I did find some videos on YouTube, do you (or anyone else) have any specific recommendations?
This one looks pretty simple , I will likely use it for my own Baneblade exhaust pipes!
Also, I found two more,
Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04RMOchGAS8
Part 2 http://youtu.be/f39h5O6cV4E
Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/05 17:20:31
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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I've been going through my collection of unfinished terrain projects and decided to finish up one of my oldest ones. I started this project as my first post on this thread (October 2011).
Last night I decided to do some work on it. Here's the current WIP:
The third level for this was done a few days after I built the main structure. It and has been a "stand alone" piece since then:
I'll be permanently attaching it tonight and blending the paint styles for cohesiveness. More updates to come.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/05 17:49:59
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Skalk, me old mucka! Welcome back. Good to see you still kicking.
Good work.
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/05 18:18:38
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Liberated Grot Land Raida
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Welcome back, and good idea with the Necromunda terrain. I should probably do the same since my old cardboard terrain is starting to look rather worn...
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A Squeaky Waaagh!!
Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'
Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/05 18:34:26
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Great to see you back!
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"But me no buts! Our comrades get hurt. Our friends die. Falkenburg is a knight who swore an oath to serve the church and to defend the weak. He'd be the first to tell you to stop puling and start planning. Because what we are doing-at risk to ourselves-is what we have sworn to do. The West relies on us. It is a risk we take with pride. It is an oath we honour. Even when some soft southern burgher mutters about us, we know the reason he sleeps soft and comfortable, why his wife is able to complain about the price of cabbages as her most serious problem and why his children dare to throw dung and yell "Knot" when we pass. It's because we are what we are. For all our faults we stand for law and light.
Von Gherens This Rough Magic Lackey, Flint & Freer
Mekagorkalicious -Monkeytroll
2017 Model Count-71
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/05 20:07:06
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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*rubs eyes *
Whoa....i am seeing ghosts!
Eager to look forward to more
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/06 22:05:07
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Necrotheadomundamancy!
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Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
Solar_Lion: "Man this sums up your blog nicely."
Anpu-adom: "being Geek is about Love. Some love broadly. Some love deeply. And then there are people like Graven. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/06 22:38:22
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Gargantuan Great Squiggoth
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Welcome home bud.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/06 22:54:09
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Whuh? Who dat?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/07 02:15:24
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Necromunda brings another wayward soul back from the dead  . Good to see you still kicking about.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/08 13:00:13
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hails to all, and thank you
Dr. H- Wanted to let you know my son is in his 2nd year of Mechanical Engineering w/ a minor in Electrical Engineering. I still can't get him to model though.
CommissarKhaine- It is a rewarding project, and full credit for my inspiration goes to dsteingass in 2011. If you haven't checked out the beginning of his thread it is recommended.
Llamahead- I've not had the opportunity to check your threads yet, still doing Epic?
Vik- I'm simply a figment of your imagination. None of this is real.
graven-  It's good to be the OP
Camkierhi- Home. I do enjoy this place. I expect to be here for some time.
Gits- Hur, jus' some naff git whuts come back fer sum muckin' about.
Theo- I've not yet tried the new Necromunda. Made the purchase, opened the box, cried a bit on the inside, closed the box, put on the shelf. I'll revisit it later. Shadow Wars, however...
Progress was slowed when I found that I had built the 3rd level walkway with one bulkhead backward, the tabs were facing inward and would not match up with the rest of the model. I struggled for some time with my options, finally deciding to tear apart the original model instead of building a new walkway. I'm unsure if I'm happy with the results as there was enough damage to one side to keep it from being a functional connection to another walkway. I will likely say it's ok because it's the Underhive and there's plenty of broken dead-ends.
Construction is complete, next is finish the paint. I've been experimenting with my airbrush but I'm not confidant enough with it to use on this project yet so everything you'll see for a while is still the old-fashioned way. I'm also searching for my Cannon A480 to take photos, so far these have been with my phone and I'm not happy with the inability to zoom in for detail.
My next post will be of the projects I completed in my absence. I wasn't here but I didn't stop modeling.
As always, thanks for checking this out and be assured that much more is coming.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/08 13:20:40
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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My next post will be of the projects I completed in my absence. I wasn't here but I didn't stop modeling.
now the expectations are rising high...^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/08 14:01:55
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That terrain brings back such fond memories...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/10 22:33:14
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Dr. H- Wanted to let you know my son is in his 2nd year of Mechanical Engineering w/ a minor in Electrical Engineering. I still can't get him to model though.
Well there's 2 ways children can go with parental activities: "I want to follow in Dad's footsteps", or "Parents are soooo uncool"  Good luck to him. He'll come around to the models eventually; we all know it's the right thing to do.
Progress was slowed when I found that I had built the 3rd level walkway with one bulkhead backward, the tabs were facing inward and would not match up with the rest of the model. ...
Oops, easily done. Looks good though.
Look forward to the showcase.
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/10 23:46:52
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
Llamahead- I've not had the opportunity to check your threads yet, still doing Epic?
Less of that recently I've been on a Frostgrave/Zombicide inspired fantasy binge recently although every now and then some Epic spices up the desk.
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"But me no buts! Our comrades get hurt. Our friends die. Falkenburg is a knight who swore an oath to serve the church and to defend the weak. He'd be the first to tell you to stop puling and start planning. Because what we are doing-at risk to ourselves-is what we have sworn to do. The West relies on us. It is a risk we take with pride. It is an oath we honour. Even when some soft southern burgher mutters about us, we know the reason he sleeps soft and comfortable, why his wife is able to complain about the price of cabbages as her most serious problem and why his children dare to throw dung and yell "Knot" when we pass. It's because we are what we are. For all our faults we stand for law and light.
Von Gherens This Rough Magic Lackey, Flint & Freer
Mekagorkalicious -Monkeytroll
2017 Model Count-71
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/12 02:58:15
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Vik- I hope these meet your expectations.
Gits- Here's a few more memory-jogging pieces.
Dr H- I bought the lad a 3D printer for the holidays and he's been looking for terrain to print. I'm hoping to showcase something soon.
Llamahead- I've seen Frostgrave and Zombicide, both look very cool. Frostgrave almost became our group campaign game in 2015 but Mordheim won the day instead.
Here are some of the pieces I worked on. Apologies for any blurred pics.
First up are my Imperial city buildings. I put a lot of thought into the design, layout, conversion, and painting. The smaller buildings were built to offer a more diverse layout for the tabletop and also fit better on my display shelves. They all have a "clean" look to them and the debris is an aesthetic representation of damage. This is intentional as the end result of all my terrain is to simulate the war-torn future but remain functional for models to be placed in and upon. I feel I strike a fair balance between the two standards.
This is a smaller building designed to offer some cover outside as well as inside. The footprint is indented on one side which was a change from most of my square / rectangular building. Pics of the roof did not come out but it is scratch build plasticard and I-beams with cork board surface to give the appearance of a tarred roof. You will notice the support beams from the main structure are all bent to face the same direction. The intent was to simulate damage from an explosive force that took part of the building down. Color scheme is similar to other buildings already in my collection to maintain cohesiveness.
Next up was a built that was surprising quick because I knew exactly what I wanted to do, built this in the same period I built the model above. Paint is a slight departure from my usual color scheme, it's a metallic blue exterior and metalic green interior. I picked up both to experiment with and I'm pleased with the results. I haven't used it again since but it's likely to come back out at some point. Roof construction has same concept as model above. The third picture shows a large pile of debris in the lower right. This was my solution to running out of floor tiles and I think it worked well enough.
Next is a small Manufactorum. I put a lot of attention into details such as the ajar door and damage to the walls. The barricade is from the ForgeWorld set with a few broken Imperial bits to fill in gaps and create the appearance of a hastily fortified position. Because this model has more intricate detail in the casting it received more attention when i was painting, such as weathering on exposed pipes and picking out cables in the mold. Of the small buildings I've posted so far this is my favorite.
Next is my favorite of the lot. It took a very long tome to build this because of the amount of conversion and customization, and again in the painting detail. I really like how this model completed. It's tall but has a small footprint so it is easy to store and more versatile on the tabletop. The attention to detail on the skull wall plates really makes this model stand out without looking out of place.
Next is a segue between my 40K table and my Necromunda table. Some people may remeber this from the beginning of the thread. This building has been reworked three times now and I'm hoping that I've found a style that will last a few years,
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The last pieces became relevant again when Shadow War-Armageddon was released. Both of these models were either bare plastic or simple base coat when SW-A was released. I enjoyed modeling and painting these. Admittedly not my best work but it looks good from 3 feet away, especially when surround by a dozen other similar structures.
My primary modeling interest keeps shifting between improving paint and detail on existing models and using collected materials to finish building others. My preference is to finish models and I'm trying to focus on paint and weathering of existing models but frequently shift back to building other things. In either case I'm modeling, and that's just fine with me.
Thanks for looking. I'll be back with more finished terrain next time, plus some progress on paint for builds I'm trying to finish.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/16 02:02:31
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Decided to build today instead of paint. I didn't intend the amount of work I put in, but it is a project that sometimes drives itself.
This is a couple hours of work. These structures built quickly. I used a paper cutting board instead of a hobby blade, it's much faster and better results for me. I truly enjoyed the process of measuring, cutting, and piecing together.
Everything is being reinforced. I don't feel the 040 plasticard is firm enough for gaming by itself, it needs bracing and underlying supports. I do this through a few different methods, but my most common is using Testor's model glue and basswood. I've tried many other methods and have found this to a fast and easy application with solid long term results
This model has the last piece of the Necromunda terrain I cut from .060 at the beginning of this thread. I cut the cards channels on additional 2 bulkheads to accept the .060, but only on one side. The other remains as it so .040 walkways can be connected.
I'm particularly happy with this piece. The hole was cut for a model I had started at the beginning of this thread but abandoned the idea. This is what the idea became and is also the last of the last. I am out of card .040 card.
The build part of this project is wrapping up. I have 10 bulkheads left for random walkways and a lot of walkways to connect, but the main buildings are built. From here I will be adding bits for detail like wires, hatches, and miscellaneous items that will help force scale perspective.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/16 04:02:58
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Gargantuan Great Squiggoth
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Wonderful work. Gods it is good to see you again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/16 04:13:11
Subject: Re: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Thank you Cam, that's genuinely decent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/16 15:45:56
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
OH-I Wanna get out of here
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Always good to see more quality terrain.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/17 03:22:14
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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...Something stirred in the old man's bones. He' waved his arms to clear the cobwebs from the long-abandoned workshop, then immediately got straight to building a damn underhive!
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/17 15:15:15
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Looks great Skalk, I'm assuming you're going to make a bunch of ramps and catwalks to go between the pieces?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/17 18:09:25
Subject: Terrain Project- Building a Better Battlefield
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Liberated Grot Land Raida
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Looking promising. I would've added some more non,-square buildings though, but I'm a sucker for irregular shapes
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A Squeaky Waaagh!!
Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'
Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
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