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2012/09/27 11:55:29
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 43 - September 24, 2012 - Flight of the Vendettas (p.58)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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No, I mean why is it so long? Is there some other function to it besides a carrying handle and a sight? Is it also a mechanism of some sort? Or is it just that long so it stays true to the barrel of the weapon?
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2012/09/27 12:02:46
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 43 - September 24, 2012 - Flight of the Vendettas (p.58)
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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but there is a massive different between playing wargames, watching action movies and the like and getting in fights and throwing punches.
the first two are simulated, no one gets hurt, the latter... well... you get my point lols  Automatically Appended Next Post:  dsteingass wrote:No, I mean why is it so long? Is there some other function to it besides a carrying handle and a sight? Is it also a mechanism of some sort? Or is it just that long so it stays true to the barrel of the weapon?
absoloutely no idea, I always thought it was a folding one, but even then that doesnt explain its size... I'm sticking to my original idea... bludgeoning people with 
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2012/09/27 12:11:33
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 43 - September 24, 2012 - Flight of the Vendettas (p.58)
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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iirc the iron sight is a different approach to get scopes on... on the new rifles from HK you get these ripped structures where you can modify scopes and lasertacs and lights... the L85 doesnt support these... so you just screw thr scope on top of the iron sight /handle... it is a bit weird looking then...
i know its just an airsoft gun in the pic^^
and i know its something else to punch someone or play a game... till you wallop someone with your squiggoth
thats then called holistic tabletop
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2012/09/27 12:15:16
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 43 - September 24, 2012 - Flight of the Vendettas (p.58)
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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the bottom varient as an Airsoft rifle is sweet as hell!!!
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2012/09/27 12:22:48
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 43 - September 24, 2012 - Flight of the Vendettas (p.58)
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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yes... i would like that... tho i still want my pump action shot gun... that would be my lil laddy of misfortune
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2012/09/27 13:28:16
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 43 - September 24, 2012 - Flight of the Vendettas (p.58)
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
California + Philidelphia
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 AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:Dude, I'm 5'10" and broader than the vast majority of men... I get mistaken for military and people back down from fights when I stand up...
which I don't get... I'm a pacifist 
dude.. dude
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"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
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2012/09/27 15:35:46
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 43 - September 24, 2012 - Flight of the Vendettas (p.58)
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:Well anything that was the precursor to the SA-80 and later models, had the issue of jamming and barrel warpage. which is why the short barrel was brought into use... tbh, the now shorter barrel range is negligible compared to having to replace the barrel at half its supposed life usage...
also the magazine was know to occassionally just... kinda.. well fall out... Viktor von Domm wrote:that makes sense... tho i never heard of that error of a HK G3... same area back then and you could fire almost endlessly the way heavier amo out of these butugly gunsticks... it´s a puzzler why the L85 was so error friendly...
Rushed into production to replace the Fn-Fal as the service weapon of the British army. AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:I never understood it either... might have been a manufacturing error, or possibly the stress testing wasn't as thorough as it should have been... who knows... at least its fixed now
more or less AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:same goes for the P-90 too... in fairness I think that was the reason for the design of both guns tbh... gotta hand it to British and Belgian ingenuity never been a fan of American guns though... they always seem too big and unweildy imo... then there's the good old PSG-1, good old heckler and Kosch
the P90 is not a rifle, its an SMG. It was originally intended to for vehicle crew people (small spaces)
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2012/09/27 16:33:07
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 43 - September 24, 2012 - Flight of the Vendettas (p.58)
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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 Galorn wrote:AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:Well anything that was the precursor to the SA-80 and later models, had the issue of jamming and barrel warpage. which is why the short barrel was brought into use... tbh, the now shorter barrel range is negligible compared to having to replace the barrel at half its supposed life usage...
also the magazine was know to occassionally just... kinda.. well fall out...
I had forgotten about that one
AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:I never understood it either... might have been a manufacturing error, or possibly the stress testing wasn't as thorough as it should have been... who knows... at least its fixed now
more or less
Well anythings better than it used to be... at least the barrel warpage issue is fixed... kinda useful when our troops are out in Afghanistan
AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:same goes for the P-90 too... in fairness I think that was the reason for the design of both guns tbh...
gotta hand it to British and Belgian ingenuity
never been a fan of American guns though... they always seem too big and unweildy imo...
then there's the good old PSG-1, good old heckler and Kosch
the P90 is not a rifle, its an SMG. It was originally intended to for vehicle crew people (small spaces)
I referred to it as a Rife? Bad me... whoops haha...
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2012/09/27 18:57:38
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 43 - September 24, 2012 - Flight of the Vendettas (p.58)
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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Rushed into production to replace the Fn-Fal as the service weapon of the British army.
what was wrong with the FN Fal??? that was a nasty piece of kiiling stick...
and just fell off? LOL...
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2012/09/27 20:02:07
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 43 - September 24, 2012 - Flight of the Vendettas (p.58)
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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 Viktor von Domm wrote:Rushed into production to replace the Fn-Fal as the service weapon of the British army.
what was wrong with the FN Fal??? that was a nasty piece of kiiling stick...
and just fell off? LOL...
Fn-FAL - Battle rifle
Pros
7.62 x 51 Nato round.
Fairly accurate at long-medium range.
Rugged
Cons
Heavy
Low ammunition capacity per magazine
Expensive per unit cost
Non Nato standard magazines
L85 Bullpup - assault rifle (intended)
Pros
lighter than the Fn-Fal
Bull pup layout (shorter overall length with same or similar barrel length)
better balance
High ammunition capacity per magazine
Fairly accurate at long range and very accurate at medium range
made in the UK
Cheaper per unit than the FN-FAL
Shared NATO magazines
Cons
5.56 Nato ammunition
High maintenance
early production runs ( gens 1-3) were prone to a laundry list of mechanical failures. (currently issued as a gen 5-6 i believe)
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Link to my Index Thread here on dakka
Find me on Twitter Sam Butler @Rivet_Zone
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2012/09/27 20:09:10
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 43 - September 24, 2012 - Flight of the Vendettas (p.58)
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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just to be on the safe side here... i know all the stated facts... but is 30 rounds pßer mag contra 20 rounds really that much of a difference? we are not talking a capacity here of an AK47 with up to around fifty rounds per mag???
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2012/09/27 20:48:07
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 43 - September 24, 2012 - Flight of the Vendettas (p.58)
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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americans and their guns
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2012/09/28 10:48:50
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 43 - September 24, 2012 - Flight of the Vendettas (p.58)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yep, just in case you British try to come over here and inject unnecessary vowels into our spelling again 
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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2012/09/28 16:36:06
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 43 - September 24, 2012 - Flight of the Vendettas (p.58)
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Battleship Captain
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i like box mags and full automatic weaponry. Going to show you british folk how it is done at 600 rounds a minute.
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2012/09/28 18:31:17
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 43 - September 24, 2012 - Flight of the Vendettas (p.58)
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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like the M249 SAW? or waht do you have in mind/at hand atm
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2012/09/30 02:48:47
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 43 - September 24, 2012 - Flight of the Vendettas (p.58)
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
California + Philidelphia
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So how many people here just received 3 squats, 1 squat biker, 1 chaos squat in terminator armor, 1 old (i think) ratling, a p3 wet palet, a roll of cork board, and the brass etched leaves all because of a trade today?
I guess the better question is who wants some pics of a very happy hobby boy!
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"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike |
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2012/09/30 03:38:55
Subject: Re:Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 43 - September 24, 2012 - Flight of the Vendettas (p.58)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Not so interested in shots of a happy hobby boy, more in shots of some squat stupendousness (it is so a word).
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2012/09/30 04:30:00
Subject: Re:Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 43 - September 24, 2012 - Flight of the Vendettas (p.58)
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
California + Philidelphia
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So you have asked it.. so it shall be..
these squats came without arms or anything I traded 3 (much loved by the people) galorn bases for the old dwarf arms though and also added someones old techmarine claw to the biker, here are some wips...
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"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike |
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2012/09/30 08:22:05
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 44 - September 29, 2012 - Squats! Bikers, Troopers, Chaos Termies!(p.61)
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
Somewhere In Time And Space
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That Squat in Exo-armour is worth a fortune!
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2012/09/30 10:36:23
Subject: Re:Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 44 - September 29, 2012 - Squats! Bikers, Troopers, Chaos Termies!(p.61)
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Nice haul. I'd actually forgotten about that bike, I have a couple of the ones with flared exhausts coming up behind the driver.
And a chaos squat in exo-armour! All good stuff dude 
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2012/09/30 12:50:24
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 44 - September 29, 2012 - Squats! Bikers, Troopers, Chaos Termies!(p.61)
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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ha! you are not fooling this one here RW... that is a ratling in the mix 
nice haul for sure!!! the biker looks very cool... and i see you´ve cheated with dwarven arms... lol... but in a good way
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2012/09/30 14:49:44
Subject: Re:Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 44 - September 29, 2012 - Squats! Bikers, Troopers, Chaos Termies!(p.61)
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Nice job but what did you trade for it ? Know that's the question was the deal that good errrmmmmm ......
The tech marine arm works really well on the biker I have to say
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2012/09/30 15:47:40
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 44 - September 29, 2012 - Squats! Bikers, Troopers, Chaos Termies!(p.61)
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Well for all those models I only traded 2 of my old leman russes that I planned to replace any way
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"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike |
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2012/09/30 18:52:51
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 44 - September 29, 2012 - Squats! Bikers, Troopers, Chaos Termies!(p.61)
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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sounds like you bartered with an iron grip...and a dumbass up front^^
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2012/09/30 19:47:48
Subject: Re:Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 44 - September 29, 2012 - Squats! Bikers, Troopers, Chaos Termies!(p.61)
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Yes the guy must have been a bit dumb to trade them for that, those things go for a packet Has he got any more Exo- armour ones left I have about 12 unmade Leeman Russ lying around 
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2012/09/30 19:52:13
Subject: Re:Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 44 - September 29, 2012 - Squats! Bikers, Troopers, Chaos Termies!(p.61)
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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 lone dirty dog wrote:Yes the guy must have been a bit dumb to trade them for that, those things go for a packet Has he got any more Exo- armour ones left I have about 12 unmade Leeman Russ lying around
last I saw Exo-squats were going for £25 each on fleabay
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2012/09/30 19:57:55
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 44 - September 29, 2012 - Squats! Bikers, Troopers, Chaos Termies!(p.61)
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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12? whut? you nuts?
i would go ballistic with these...oh mate...well... i think i need to get me some squats for trading^^
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2012/09/30 20:01:42
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 44 - September 29, 2012 - Squats! Bikers, Troopers, Chaos Termies!(p.61)
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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ooops... sorry thats a CHAOS exo-armoured Squat... so make that about £25-40 on ebay...
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2012/09/30 20:05:03
Subject: Re:Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 44 - September 29, 2012 - Squats! Bikers, Troopers, Chaos Termies!(p.61)
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Yes they start at that then 12 seconds to go they jump to £50 feth that for a game of soldiers 
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2012/09/30 20:08:43
Subject: Rogue Wolves WIP's - UPDATE 44 - September 29, 2012 - Squats! Bikers, Troopers, Chaos Termies!(p.61)
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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The Exo-bikers are just as bad... and to think... I want to sort a Squat army out
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