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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/15 04:31:32
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Yes we did move Tranquility up to $ 40k. So many people were asking about it, so we decided to move it up. I don't know why it's so popular. I mean, it's just a bunch of folks on a riverboat, minding their own business. Nothing special...
Printer isn't the only holdup, it's taking longer than expected but it's really just a bunch of other things leading up the the printing that also took longer than expected, and then things before that that took too long. So right now it's just the printer that's the last piece in the puzzle. The printer took a while though because they sent us the proofs, and then right before we were about to sign off on them we found some errors that needed to be fixed, so we had to start that whole process over again.
Funny story, just today I got an email from one of the original backers, turns out he works for the printing company we're using and was surprised to see the boxes come across his desk today all the sudden Automatically Appended Next Post: oh and yeah, I was surprised they were able to do free shipping. That will be great especially for folks in Europe. Had lots of backers from over there last time
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/15 08:32:47
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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We'll see I guess, pardon my reluctance.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/11/15 16:44:08
Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/15 10:25:41
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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Zealous Knight
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WAUGH! You didn't seriously kick Wilde's rangers from 60K to 90K? gah, that was pretty much the only other crew I wanted :'{
oh well. here's to hoping it gets that far.
I take it all crews will eventually be published, just not quite as fast as via this KS?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/15 14:13:18
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Yeah we moved them down, they're one I really like too and I wanted to have a really cool one at the very end to work towawrd which is why Tranquility was there at first, but we got so many emails from people we had to adjust it. I think we'll get that far  And if we don't, they'll still be made. Everything you see on the page is going to get done, it's just a matter of what can be included in the campaign. So if we don't make it to a goal, it will just get added to the sculpting queue anyway and released the good old fashioned way
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/15 14:27:35
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Maybe you can work something into the background of the gang where the evil Rupert Fox tries to sink the Tranquility...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/15 14:57:13
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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bbb wrote:Maybe you can work something into the background of the gang where the evil Rupert Fox tries to sink the Tranquility...
That is genius!
Make it happen!
(Please?)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/15 16:00:12
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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Posts with Authority
South Carolina (upstate) USA
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We are going to miss this Kickstarter, start of the wifes new job has been delayed a month and counting, and its killed us financially. We will have to pick up some stuff when it goes on general sale.
Question...will the guys like Kurt and Kilmer be available for regular purchase or are the KS only?
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Whats my game?
Warmachine (Cygnar)
10/15mm mecha
Song of Blades & Heroes
Blackwater Gulch
X wing
Open to other games too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/15 16:11:07
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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[DCM]
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Mad4Minis wrote:
Question...will the guys like Kurt and Kilmer be available for regular purchase or are the KS only?
Necros wrote:There's actually no exclusive figures, all of them will be released for retail later on. The only thing though is the bonus figures are available separately in the Kickstarter, but for retail they will be in packs of 3. Kurt Wyatt, Dr. Kilmer and Wayne Duke will be in the Lawmen pack and Nevada Dave, Father Al and Marshall Stewart will the the Adventurers.
The only thing that will be limited are the Colt 45 dice, mostly just because they would probably be too expensive to have all the time. It's cheaper to collect a bunch of orders for them and then order in the 1000's. So we can get a good deal on them if we add em to a Kickstarter.
So either way if you miss this Kickstarter you can still buy them later  But, the KS price is cheaper, like the starters are $30 here but for retail they will be $35
So if your gaming budget is tight (like mine!), waiting for some (or all!) of this stuff will still get you everything you want!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/15 16:12:14
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Yep, nothing is kickstarter-exclusive except for maybe the dice since we have to buy them in one huge batch to get a low enough price to make them affordable for everyone. Kurt, Kilmer and Wayne will eventually be sold in the "Hired Guns: Lawmen" support pack. But with the Kickstarter, you have the option to buy them separately if you want, instead of in the box of all 3. Everything listed on there is pretty much a planned release list so what you see will eventually get sculpted and released, whatever we can unlock will just come first.
Rupert Fox... think that one went over my head, who is he?  Here's the little gang bio I put together for the Tranquility Crew though, still tweaking it though.
The Blackwater River begins just north of town at the bottom of Victory Falls, and flows many distant miles southward, ending in bayou country. Scores of riverboats carry goods and people up and down along the river, with the riverboat Tranquility being the most infamous. She is manned by a motley, but close-knit crew with a reputation bordering on piracy, carrying their fair share of legal and illegal cargo all along the river.
The captain of the boat is Nathan Reinhold, a former sergeant of the US Army who commands respect yet is fiercely loyal to his crew. Adam James is the muscle, a bounty hunter with more guns than he can count (even though he can't count that high), while Dr. Simon keeps the crew's wounds patched up. Julie, the ship's mechanic, has an almost magical skill with engines and somehow manages to keep Tranquility afloat at the worst of times. Reverend Sheppard accompanies the crew, doing his part to bring a little salvation to the lawless and the lost. Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, and when we do get the crew sculpted, I'm going to see if the we can do Adam James with 2 different heads to choose from.. one normal and the other with a knitted cap
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/15 16:26:53
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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[DCM]
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Rupert Murdoch = Owner of Fox network, network that pulled the plug on Firefly 'early'.
Rupert Fox would make a great adversary for the Tranquility Riverboat crew!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/15 16:33:35
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Exactly. He could have a henchman named Friday Knight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/15 16:42:34
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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Old Sourpuss
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bbb wrote:Exactly. He could have a henchman named Friday Knight.
With a name like that, you'd have to either make her extremely attractive and seductive, or dress her up like a hussy that has seen several hundred miles of bad road kinda like the 3 dollar hooker from futurama.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/15 16:43:52
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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bbb wrote:Exactly. He could have a henchman named Friday Knight.
More good stuff!
And more importantly, you could actually work these 'homage' characters into your game world with a real story, rather than just figures that kinda sorta look like something kinda sorta popular.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/15 17:25:56
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Oh, yeah they'll have their own place in the world, not just doing them for the gimmick. Wanted to have a gang of smugglers and Tranquility turned out to be a perfect fit.
The Blackwater River is basically my fictional Mississippi river with riverboats going up and down it, ending in not-lousiana in bayou country. Planning a cajun themed gang some day, the Bayou Boys. They will probably get added when we get to the voodoo zombie expansion some day, along with were-crocodiles and black lagoon creatures
I like Rupert Fox though, could make him the crooked sheriff of Murdoch County down south somewhere, and make it deputy Friday and Deputy Knight for henchmen
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/15 18:11:44
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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Necros wrote:
I like Rupert Fox though, could make him the crooked sheriff of Murdoch County down south somewhere, and make it deputy Friday and Deputy Knight for henchmen
I like that spin on it - well done!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/15 21:42:29
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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[DCM]
Coastal Bliss in the Shadow of Sizewell
Suffolk, where the Aliens roam.
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*scrambles for the 'brilliant!' cigar smoking pic* Oh I'd have to have those three as a set, excellent stuff.
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"That's not an Ork, its a girl.." - Last words of High General Daran Ul'tharem, battle of Ursha VII.
Two White Horses (Ipswich Town and Denver Broncos Supporter)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/15 21:44:05
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Alternatively Rupert Fox could be a newspaper reporter seeking to expose the illegal activities of the Tranquility. He could be supported by two assistants: Friday Knight and Beth Slott.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/15 21:47:27
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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It's not often enough I get to say this, but...
Bring on the Rougarou!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/16 02:24:47
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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We can add the Rugarou  So many different names for the same monsters, trying to think up ways to use them all. Thinking we could do it like one might be a werewolf, then there could be a werecoyote, werejackal, werehyena, or the dreaded North Baja California Hairless WereChihuahua?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/16 02:48:44
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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The "Joint Snake" would be an interesting little henchmen critter thing for the occult section.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/16 03:29:16
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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Don't forget the chupacabra...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/16 09:32:21
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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Fixture of Dakka
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You could have a vampire coven as one of the gangs as well. Thinking along the lines of Interview with a Vampire.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/16 14:31:06
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Yeah Vampires will be in there too. Not sure how I want to do them.. snooty rich-kid Anne rice types? Nerdy-cool buffy types? Vicious monster 30-days-of-night types? They're probably a long way off, the plan is to do the big box set game that will be mostly centered around were-things, with campaign expansion packs that would each have a new theme. So the first campaign pack would be the voodoo zombies, followed by goblin (tommyknocker) miners, and then probably vampire types after that. Still a long way off so plenty of time to plan it out.
I'd also like to do something with aliens, but not in a Cowboys vs Aliens way.. something more along the lines of the star children native american myths. No ray guns or anything. It'll have to be something that still fits in with the theme and world (even though they're from a different one). Don't want it to come off as too corny though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/16 14:42:15
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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The Tommyknockers strike me as more of a Pennsylvania thing than Old West...
For Vampires, I think you couldn't go wrong with a more "bestial" vampire. Something like the Strigoi, where they roam in packs and don't just drink blood?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/16 15:10:07
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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True, but I kind of want the monster game to cover all kinds of US folklore not really just westerns. I was even thinking of adding the Jersey Devil or the Hodag .. I've been thinking of it like a fantasy game, but using US and indian folklore in a western setting, instead of the same old tolkein ripoffs. Also been considering branding it as it's own game, maybe dropping the Blackwater Gulch name and using something different and spooky sounding, but they'll be 2 compatible games like Warmachine & Hordes. It will still have the western theme though, and the majority of it will be westerny or indian monsters
Anyway, some new updates today  We'll be doing and update on the KS page later, but I just added the downloadable Character Cards for the Widowmakers and also Kurt Wyatt
For some reason my direct pdf download link didn't work, so you can just get em off my site
http://blackwatergulch.com/blog/2012/11/widowmakers-character-cards/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/16 15:24:12
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Ooh okay. So the "Monster" expansion would be more about chaps riding around the country hunting evil things?
Y'know, the family business?
I get ya now. I'll keep getting some folklore collected so I can help with that if you need it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/16 15:44:26
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Yep that's exactly it.. Supernatural-in-1890-the-tactical-skirmish-miniatures-hobby-boardgame  Same rules as BWG only 1" square spacess for movement and template overlay thingies to represent buildings or obstacles, and rules for how to play as a normal skirmish game too.
But instead of 2 gangs setting up and fighting it's more like monster hunting heroes show up and then monsters swarm in around them, so it's like a survival game. Monsters get 1 spawn area for each hero played so you can make the game as big or as small as you want.
It will introduce new professions and character types. Like a Skinwalker will be the same kind of stats as your average Professional level character in BWG, and their animal form's ability will be like their professional skill. We'll add beasts (chupacabra and wolf-sized things) as 25 XP monsters and Varmits that are smaller 5 XP things that attack as a group.
So, each new campaign pack will have to follow that same mold. 1 boss with a host of pros, henchmen, beasts and varmints, and 2 or 3 new heroes, plus a couple of new board tiles to add to the existing big box set. But also, each campaign pack could also be played just on it's own if you want a small & quick game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/17 01:11:40
Subject: Re:Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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I'm sorry, couldn't help it. That word just reminds me of something I saw in a convenience store, once, in Georgia.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/17 01:33:31
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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hehe .. i was calling them critters at first, but I think varmint sounds more fitting
So .. new development with the campaign. We're going to change up the stretch goals a bit. I was originally going to do the Tranquility Crew really just for fun in the event we were able to get high enough but it turns out its the set that people are overwhelmingly asking for across the board.
So with that in mind we're going to be changing the goals to something like this:
$5k - Kurt Wyatt (unlocked now)
$10k - Widowmakers
$15k - Dr Kilmer
$20k - Tranquility Crew
$25k - Wayne Duke
$30k - Flying Zarconis
$35k - Nevada Dave
$ 40k - Secret Fist
$45k - Father Al
$50k - Dockside Drifters
$55k - Marshall Stewart
$60k - Wilde's Rangers
Will take a little bit for Game Salute to get the KS page updated but I think this will make the goals more realistic and if we end up doing really well we'll be able unlock the support packs even sooner
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/17 01:45:37
Subject: Blackwater Gulch News - New Kickstarter Launched!
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Zealous Knight
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...I like your optimism on attaining >60K results, even if I might not wholly share it
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